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  2016 Memorial Done & Dusted

  by steve2 in

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  well on this side of the planet, the southern hemisphere/ new zealand, the 2016 memorial service in local kingdom halls will be over for another year.

  another great big anticlimax.

  some family and relatives will have gone - but unless i ask my sister, i generally have no idea about attendance and partaker numbers.

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  Biblexaminer you had me in fits...dog and pony show!!!LOL!!
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  My mother has nervous breakdown because we missed the memorial.

  by cookiemaster in

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  my parents insisted that i'd take them to the memorial.

  my cousin said he'd come too and another brother who doesn't have a car begged to join.

  i was dreading having to go through exactly the same thing again.

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  Tell her she can commemorate on her own or with you guys...the building is not important. Tell her does she really think ceremonially rejecting the wine and bread is a good thing anyway...Xanax..isn't that Valium? Mothers little helper?!!
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  Sweet 16 - Happy Birthday to Us !

  by Simon in

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  it's the forum's 16th birthday today!.

  amazing that not only have we lasted so long but we're still thriving and growing.. thanks to all the people and often colorful characters who've contributed to the site over the years.

  some are still here with us, some have since moved on, but all have touched each others lives in some way along our different journeys.. .

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  Happy birthday forum....Many thanks to Simon and other mods for all the hard work ( not bad going for a fat Asian man with a small winky!!!)
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  My Personal Invitation to the Celebration of the Lord's Evening Meal

  by TMS in

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  2. beliefs

  by no means is this a heartwarming "experience" illustrating how an ex-jw skillfully "reached the heart" of a current jw, moving them to re-examine their belief system.

  that won't be my take on my half hour visit with an elder's wife last sunday.

  no one scored points here as is almost always the case in these interactions.. we live at the extreme southern tip of texas, on the u.s.-mexico border in a city of about 200,000. twenty years ago there were 20 spanish language congregations, 2 english.

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  JWs can be rattled by an intelligent, orderly exchange - even if they do not acknowledge how they are feeling inside at the time.

  How do I know? That lady speaking to TMS was me many years ago.
  

  Hear hear Steve2...ditto me too!
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  My Personal Invitation to the Celebration of the Lord's Evening Meal

  by TMS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  by no means is this a heartwarming "experience" illustrating how an ex-jw skillfully "reached the heart" of a current jw, moving them to re-examine their belief system.

  that won't be my take on my half hour visit with an elder's wife last sunday.

  no one scored points here as is almost always the case in these interactions.. we live at the extreme southern tip of texas, on the u.s.-mexico border in a city of about 200,000. twenty years ago there were 20 spanish language congregations, 2 english.

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  , why," I asked, "did God not warn hundreds of his children that a tsunami was coming? He saw it coming, didn't he? Is there a reason he simply chose to watch them all die?"

  He stood there thinking with no immediate response.

  Then I addressed him by his first name which I now forget. "If you, as a father, had simply watched your son die, doing nothing to protect him or warn him, how would that be viewed by the authorities? Would you not be guilty of child abuse?"

  The Witness man simply said "I have no answer for that. Thank you, sir, for your time."

  How refreshingly honest of him. Im not surprised you think of him....it would be nice to know that he was OK and that he and his son managed to exit the cult😊
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  My Personal Invitation to the Celebration of the Lord's Evening Meal

  by TMS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  by no means is this a heartwarming "experience" illustrating how an ex-jw skillfully "reached the heart" of a current jw, moving them to re-examine their belief system.

  that won't be my take on my half hour visit with an elder's wife last sunday.

  no one scored points here as is almost always the case in these interactions.. we live at the extreme southern tip of texas, on the u.s.-mexico border in a city of about 200,000. twenty years ago there were 20 spanish language congregations, 2 english.

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  Diogenesister

  Maybe that step will take years, maybe not. But I can assure you that getting a dose of TTATT is like getting exposed to radiation: Even if you don't feel it yet, it is reaching down to your bones and you won't ever be able to get rid of it.

  Fantastic stephaneLa....👍

  I also think that line about Jehovah'appalling sense of justice will have hit home to some extent, if true so obviously a freak tragedy the Israelites, like much else, attributed to an imaginary god.

  Its good for dubs to meet intelligent, ordinary, polite exdubs with well thought out reasons for leaving of their own volition. I often think the " herd mentality" is one reason they don't see the issues with the cult.." If all these sane people think its true, we can't ALL be wrong - these non JW's just dont KNOW enough about it" type thinking. The more they hear that many people DO know their religion AND think its wrong the better.
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  Terrorist attack in Belgium

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

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  check the news.

  there was a terrorist attack in brussells, couple of bombs detonated in the brussell airport and the metro.. 36 dead so far.. i send my sincerest condolences to the people of belgium.. the motive seems to be revenge for the capture of the last surviving member of the paris terrorist attacks..

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  Oh heck...my kids are due to go on a school trip to brussells. They go to a posh school full of well connected people...a couple of days ago some parents withdrew their kids from the trip and told everyone to think seriously about not going as it is far too dangerous at the moment...we were joshing each other for being neurotic parents..we' re not joshing anymore.
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  Blood Transfusion and Eating

  by dugout in

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  2. beliefs

  i get highly irritated when this subject comes up.

  this idiot gave a talk in my hall recently and said that transfusion of blood and eating blood was the same thing.

  my wife accepts this reasoning.

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  Doubtfully yours...oh dear....

  As old as I am, have never or any member of my extended/immediate family has ever needed health treatment that could not be satisfied without the use of blood.

  You and yours have just been lucky..long may it stay that way

  
  

  The issue is highly hyped and overrated by the anti-JW crowd.

  In memory of the thousands of new mothers and young kids with leukemia who have died already,or are at terrible risk from their misguided policies we EXJW's will keep fighting the Watchtower
  
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  Hidden Abuse Under Watchtower

  by MicaSmith in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the center for investigative journalism whose website is now called revealnews.org, has an entire section on stories being investigated by their staff and others on how the watchtower is handling child abuse cases.. "the jehovah’s witnesses have systematically instructed leaders to keep child sexual abuse secret from law enforcement and members of their own congregations.

  " https://www.revealnews.org/topic/jehovahs-witnesses/.

  please share you thoughts on this issue because i really would like to know when the governing body and their lawyers are going to properly address this issue because i can't worship in a place that allows dangerous men in, that's what they accused the catholic church of doing and now here it is that they are caught doing the same thing but have not expressed any concern for the victims.

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  THIS /\/\/\/\ ( heavens & Orphan crows post)

  Mica women and children mean less than nothing in that organization. It wasn't so long ago that they actively advocated routine physical punishment of kids, too.
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  Dan Sydlik

  by done4good in

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  2. friends

  morning warship - he was the only restraint and i'm not saying that lightly.

  i know there are a dozen others here who were in bethel back in the early 2000's who know what i'm talking about.

  he actually kept me thinking this was jehovah's org because of his sincerity as if the holy spirit was operating in him.

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  I can remember in the late 80's / early 90's a recording where he talked excitedly about the 'bible code' found in the Torah. This was a method by which specific letters from the text can be selected to reveal an otherwise obscured message. He gave as an example a code for the names of trees found in Eden.

  He then speculated that as the code was further deciphered, it could reveal a message that JW's are the true religion. Of course when a GB member - particularly one with the delivery of Sydlik - speculates, the sheep get carried along.

  Where do these ill-educated men get off spouting their half- digested, tabloid picked up ideas as fact...if I were giving a speech to audiences of thousands I would have to research this stuff for years!

  Actually that whole bible code ( there are many types) and numerology stuff was one of the things that convinced me the bible is a crock...so God can pun really well ( or give us tree names or rabbis birth dates) but can't give us a clear answer to whether he exists or get Jesus' geniology right? Sounds like a dick..