Posts by Diogenesister

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here i am

by notalone in

i was a 4th gen born in.my adult children were the 5th.

my mother was one of the newly'anointed' we have all left.

i have been lurking since october.i was really too terrified someone would find out who i was and what would happen.well we are out now so here is a part of my story.

Incredible. I can't imagine the awful things you've suffered if even your anointed ( I assume elderly) mother left too. Revoke your " implied invitation"?!!! As I'm sure you are now aware that is purely a legal, not theocratic, term....used for such incidents as visitors who vandalize, steal from or are violent/ abusive toward congregants...not used against long term Christian families whose children have been sexually abused!!!

Its funny how keeping the congregation " clean" is invoked to maintain image rarther than protect children!! Why is that? To my mind the maini reason is that the society, unlike Christ, cares only for adult males...and the individual is worth less than nothing, cult leaders are everything. Even happening to committed famallies like yourselves.

I am so sorry your poor daughter had to go through this...but so very glad you have remained united as a family. Welcome😀

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Who ‘wondered admiringly’ at the League of Nations to fulfill Revelation 17:8?

by Gilgamesh in

i didn't recall this topic being discussed for quite a while, so i am including the first half of an article i posted on another site: , .

who ‘wondered admiringly’ at the league of nations to fulfill revelation 17:8?.

summary: the watchtower explains that the initial beast of revelation 17:8 is the “league of nations.” revelation 17:8 (nwt) says that persons whose names have not been written upon the scroll of life will “wonder admiringly” at this beast.

Diogenesister

Changing the OP, but out of interest.....

but their names have not been written upon the scroll of life from the founding of the world. [NWT Reference Edition]

Now if that's not predestination I don't know what is.

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spiritual crisis

by indi7 in

two years ago i had a kundalini experience.

i felt energy or chi pulsate through each of my chakras, from the base of the spine to the crown of the head, then back, after that i felt like a newborn for three days.

i felt like i was reborn spiritually and god gave me a new name - indi.

Diogenesister

Sure you don't mean KUNILINGUS experience?

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Satan Wants to Be Like God and Have Mankind Worship Him.....Yeah Right....

by xjwsrock in

i heard this tired line re-ran again at this year's convention.

satan supposedly wanted to be like god and be worshiped - you know, the whole pride thing.

they really made a big deal about how his "thoughts" led to his sin in the garden of eden and how we need to control our thoughts to avoid the same result.

Diogenesister

There's only one ego- maniac that wants to be worshipped.....which is kinda weird if you are " perfect"

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Is Knowing/Using The Name Of God Important?

by Vanderhoven7 in

i say no.. although the tetragrammaton appears close to 7000 times in the hebrew scriptures, the personal name of god does not.

seems to me that god made sure that both that his personal name does not appear therein and that no one would ever actually know it or learn even how to pronounce it.

he also made sure that his name (baring 3 hallelujahs in revelation) did not appear in the new testament.

Diogenesister

Terry The idea of "giving" to God is perhaps the most peculiar of all human ideas. God needs nothing and can make no use of something burned on an altar. The fable spinners, however, like to assure us God's nostrils can be pleased by the aroma of burnt oxen. The Physics of molecules and the distance from Earth to Heaven was much more (ignorant) simple in the old days.

The whole concept of blood sacrifice , the " sweet savour"(why do I always hear that expression in a Jamaican accent) is more revolting than the " shoot" that the ancient Jews found so terrible. At least a penis is harmless.

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Don't believe anyone is up there listening - said a prayer anyway out of sense of obligation

by Zoos in

i've read many statements on this forum from people who have expressed the sentiment that you don't shove ttatt down the throat of an older person.

it would be too traumatic and its best to let some people, in some situations, simply pass on in the delusion.. its humane.

merciful.. in the initial roar of my awakening, i was unable to cuddle up to that sentiment; preferring, instead, to shove the blood curdling shock of truth down the throat of anyone i could get my grip on... age be dammed.

Diogenesister

You' re a good sort, Zoos. You painted a beautiful picture of the scene too....I could see it all in my minds eye. He sounds a marvellous old fella...and it probably makes him feel closer to his son, too, spending time with you.

pulled up something" from the database" ....love it!

I'm a hardbitten atheist and I hope I behave as decently as you if the situation arises.

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Very dark and confusing info...

by sp74bb in

jw
friends

some internal sources in jw.org has brought me attention to the following data:.

- in which european country, not member of the eu, and well known for their banking industry, jw.org and some affiliated structures do maintain some business incorporated structures and companies?.

- which is the purpose of these business and company structures?.

Diogenesister

Here

Here's one for you....!

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Introduction - Any Believers?

by Believer in

i’ve been reading it for a few of years off and on, but have been a little too ... maybe ... timid to join.

i left the watchtower organization almost 20 years ago but never abandoned my faith and belief in god.

i knew the gb/organization didn’t represent god, so when i lost my faith in them, i managed to keep my faith in an all wise benevolent creator.

Diogenesister

Furthermore, the high priest was holy to God--he couldn't marry non-Israelites or even widows or divorced women (Leviticus 21:10-15; Ezekiel 44:22). But all of a sudden God allows him to have 32 foreign sex slaves? Hmmm.

Considering god ORDERED Hosea to marry a hooker I find that eminently possible...

Jephthahs daughter was sacrificed to god...

Bible is a mass of contridictions

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No! No! No! This can't be true? brexit? No!

by purrpurr in

it seems britain has voted to leave the eu in a move of total madness!

the markets are already in free fall and the moronic bigots who campaigned for this are celebrating the demise of our country .. i can't see how a 49-51% split can be democratic?

there is still the postal vote to come in, maybe there's hope in that?

Diogenesister

KaikI doubt EU will allow free labor movement and settling of British in EU after Brexit.

Definitely....of course they won't. These brexit types are idiots.

Kaik Another issue I see will happen will be UK accreditation of education, licensing, and patents, because they will case to be in alignment with EU. And foreigner education without accreditation or mutual receptivity is pretty much worthless outside native countries.

is is a hugely Important issue....desperately worrying. Devastating for the youngsters.

Britain currently has complete sovereignty when it comes to her laws....the only exception to this are the laws governing trade, obviously it is necessary for Europe to be on the same page regarding this. The politicians have been blaming Europe for any and everything for years...focusing on idiotic issues like the " tampon tax" .

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No! No! No! This can't be true? brexit? No!

by purrpurr in

it seems britain has voted to leave the eu in a move of total madness!

the markets are already in free fall and the moronic bigots who campaigned for this are celebrating the demise of our country .. i can't see how a 49-51% split can be democratic?

there is still the postal vote to come in, maybe there's hope in that?

Diogenesister

And so it begins...Britain youve been conned....tonight Daniel Hannan Tory mp and prominent leaver stated that Britain Will favour the Norway relationship post brexit, with....you guessed it...free movement of labour!

Not to mention the touted 350 million for the NHS touted pre referendum is shrinking by the minute...currently down to 100 million!

" Grandma, what have you done?" Indeed!!!!!!!!

Edited to add Racist grandma...what have you done?