Posts by Diogenesister

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Sisters as Ministerial Servants?

by Spoletta in

my wife has been trying to convince me that the organization is hinting at the possibility of making some older sisters ministerial servants.

she is awake to a lot of the false doctrines, but is still clinging to the hope that the org may become more progressive in the future.

anyone else pick up on this?

Diogenesister

Richard O.the Church of England, Anglican church has female deacons, and priests. They are certainly mainstream.

Our local Baptist church has a female pastor, they are mainstream too.

Its fairly common in the UK and many parts of Europe.

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Sisters as Ministerial Servants?

by Spoletta in

my wife has been trying to convince me that the organization is hinting at the possibility of making some older sisters ministerial servants.

she is awake to a lot of the false doctrines, but is still clinging to the hope that the org may become more progressive in the future.

anyone else pick up on this?

Diogenesister

Romans 16.1 mentions Phoebe as a "Diokonos" or deacon of the church entrusted with the delivery of scripture written by Paul. A deacon is the equivalent of ministerial servant.

Also there we're 2 women on The JW's governing body when they were first Bible students. Mind you that's GB with lower case letters, unlike today's GB who now use uppercase!

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Sisters as Ministerial Servants?

by Spoletta in

my wife has been trying to convince me that the organization is hinting at the possibility of making some older sisters ministerial servants.

she is awake to a lot of the false doctrines, but is still clinging to the hope that the org may become more progressive in the future.

anyone else pick up on this?

Pale.emporer Why the tea towel??She wasn't teaching. Sometimes I think witness women get a kick out of this submission shit. A bit like young, modern completely liberated girls in the west wearing the Burkha or scarves when no one in their family does. Is it a sexual kick. Who knows.

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Cooking With Cast Iron

by Simon in

i can't even remember what got me interested in pans, probably wanting to try cooking more and watching some cooking videos on youtube, but i kind of started wanting to get a cast-iron skillet specifically so started reading up on them.

hey, if you're going to spend $50 on something you need to study them and create a comparison spreadsheet ... right?.

not only did cast-iron look great for cooking but there are some studies that show risks to aluminium / teflon cookware ... not that the wts was "right" about aluminium, but teflon can give off carcinogenic chemicals if overheated (so what if it chips off into your food?).

Diogenesister

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RichardHadley The original wasn't "Pass the Dutchie.....it was pass ~~the spliff~~ something else pon the left hand side!!!

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Cooking With Cast Iron

by Simon in

i can't even remember what got me interested in pans, probably wanting to try cooking more and watching some cooking videos on youtube, but i kind of started wanting to get a cast-iron skillet specifically so started reading up on them.

hey, if you're going to spend $50 on something you need to study them and create a comparison spreadsheet ... right?.

not only did cast-iron look great for cooking but there are some studies that show risks to aluminium / teflon cookware ... not that the wts was "right" about aluminium, but teflon can give off carcinogenic chemicals if overheated (so what if it chips off into your food?).

Diogenesister

Simon you're a gem, I've been searching for the ideal castiron skillet.. I'm gonna try the field skillet. Of course the classic one mostbpeople use is le crusier, what do you thjnk of that one? When you say you clean with a brush after using sea salt what kind of brush? Just a regular washing up brush?

P.S. I'm kinda obsessed with cookware - currently looking for a good bain marie.

Magwitch hate electric, switched to gas!You can't get an even heat and i've learned in baking in particular getting an even heat is a big deal.

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TV commercial seen in the United States, from a Law firm "Asking if you were ever sexually abused by JEHOVAHS WITNESSES, please call".

by Dunedain in

ok, so i don't know if this is "old news", and if this has been seen, and or mentioned already.

if it was, i do apologize, but i feel i have to mention what has been seen on tv, within the past 24 hours.. first off, i would like to say that i did not personally see this commercial.

however, it was seen by someone that i can verify 100% is telling the truth, as it was my own father who saw it.

Diogenesister

This is incredible. Ive seen adds looking for accident victims and injuries at work, but never sexual abuse. The numbers of victims must be HUGE to SPECIFICALLY MENTION THE JW'S, No doubt about it someone has leaked info about the numbers they have on file in Brooklyn.

It's going to be interesting how the dubs are going to view this. Surely they cannot ignore the problem now. Surely they must see its not a few "bad apples" but a institutional problem endemic to a religion that views children as invisible, only useful as future fodder and women as servants to the higher ups. The Societies Pariah's that cannot touch a microphone or tell a man where the toilets are in an assembly.

Or will it be viewed as "persecution"by the world?

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All About The Words We Used

by dubstepped in

in the time since i've left the borg behind i've had a few things hit me as to how words were used.

i'm wondering if anyone else has some similar examples, but here are some things that have made me think:.

watchtower - my whole life i saw this as a thing of protection from outside evil forces, and then when i left someone pointed out "isn't that what they used to keep people in prison".

Diogenesister

Rainbow_troll correct me if I'm wrong but isn't what you looked into what people would call spiritualism which isn't a word dubs use, but if you were to use it they would become extremely confused!! After all usually anything with spiritual in has to be good, doesn't it??!!

BreakfastOC "Wife-like organization' always sounded a bit weird to me, even as a dub!

"Field Service" has a militaristic quality to it. After all, serving in the field in the army means serving were the ' enemy' is as it were.....for witnesses that's literally true!

"Heart Condition" is absurd,it should be brain condition ( it's a hang-over from when they believed it was literally true )

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Truly I say to you, Amen I say to you, Inferences from a Gospel manner of speech

by kepler in

in another topic changes in the nwt, one of the correspondents posted that.

concerning the comma in luke 23:43, http://www.dtl.org/alt/comments/today.htmhas some interesting comments.. .

to summarize what was stated at this website, the translator selected a translation for luke 23:43. .

Diogenesister

Its always something that made me incredibly uncomfortable with the Watchtower translation. The expression "Trully I say to you"is used time and again by Jesus in the NTwith the comma after the you.

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Are there any doctrines which all Christian religions follow.

by jwfacts in

i cannot think of a single doctrine that is so clearly laid out in the bible that every christian sect teaches the same point.

are there any doctrine where there is total consensus amongst all christian religions, including jehovah's witnesses?.

Diogenesister

Love thy neighbour? Not a doctrine of course and I guess even this is questionable as Jw"'s have to then "define" who their neighbour is.

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Not a sympathizer

by Richard Oliver in

i think everyone here is under the impression that i am a watchtower sympathizer, i am not.

i just like facts and when people say things, which are their opinions but that facts point out as not being true, than that is when i get so motivated to make a comment.

i have read posts here, listened to six screens and read jwsurvey and seen things that people say, which are opinion, but pass them off as fact.. there are legitimate things that people on here and former jws have concerns over without manipulating what is said or trying to pass off opinion as a fact.

Diogenesister

Founded in 1984 the "Cultic Studies Journal" is a peer reviewed multi disciplinary scholarly Journal;

This from its website:

Groups listed, described, or referred to on ICSA's Web sites may be mainstream or nonmainstream, controversial or noncontroversial, religious or nonreligious, cult or not cult, harmful or benign.

We encourage inquirers to consider a variety of opinions, negative and positive, so that inquirers can make independent and informed judgments pertinent to their particular concerns.

This in a nutshell is what orphan Crow is trying to say, I believe.

Do Google the model's for high control groups and see for yourself if wtbts fits the model.