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  Life is changing for me: no pioneering, got a job!

  by Skepsis in

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  a month ago i decided to register in this board.

  i had decided to step down pioneering but was frightened about the consequences.

  i had finished my university degree some months before (despite disaproval from brothers in my congregation) and i had to choose: continue pioneering and working in jobs with no future or starting a career, working full-time.. i was thinking to postpone the decisiton but... i was fed up with preaching.

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  Toes up individual JW's may bring a meal over for you but the Organization will never help you

  There.FiFY!
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  Getting older, losing loved ones

  by Gorbatchov in

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  just reading a posting about relive a day for one year of your live... .

  getting older, i am so sad thinking about years ago and missing my family members.

  am i the only one believing they would never die?.

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  Oh Gorby of course I understand. I feel the same way. I never took care of myself believing Jehovah would make it right. I never truly grieved believing I would see them again. Two close friends took their own lives and I think about them constantly - I know there are things I could have done to stop them, and now I can never make it right with them.

  Ttdtt My grandfather was an atheist and I gave him hell. I would give anything to see the only man that ever loved me again and tell him I'm sorry, that he was right and give him the biggest hug.
  
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  Would you give up one year at the end of your life if you could relive any one day in the past?

  by Esse quam videri in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  like the question asks: if you could relive any one day of your life, any age, any place and remember everything about it afterwards, would you be willing to live one year shorter at the end of your life?

  one day for one year?.

  i realize that someone well on in years would think twice about it, but, what about you younger ones?

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  Oh yes. Absolutely. And I'm not young. Again and again I have not listened to my inner voice. There are also people who have passed away I want to be with.

  And a suicide I want to stop.

  And then there are those beautiful, happy days, days where I was healthy young and happy, I want so much to feel the joy of running again. I also want to do all those things that require physical health that I did not experience, that I cannot now.

  Yes I'd do it in a heartbeat.
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  WT Society Creates the Atmosphere which Spawns Child Abuse in Congregations

  by flipper in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  been thinking about this lately after almost 14 years out of the jw cult myself.

  when you think of the language used within the jehovah's witness organization in such a closed society environment in how the wt society promotes almost absolute " trust " in the elders , the governing body, and trust even in the " friends " in the congregation themselves- is it any wonder that unscrupulous child molesters can enter any congregation pretending to be " spiritual " and take advantage of unsuspecting children or the parents ?

  think about it : an individual is judged as a " spiritual " person within the jw organization based on what wt functions or duties they are good at performing.

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  Remember also, sexual predictors are regularly known to spend years manouvering themselves into positions of Trust and POWER.....teachers, scout masters, Choiristers, Priests....how relatively easy it would be to become an Elder, therefore, or Pioneer.

  The "men behind the curtain" - Franz, Knott etc - were not just misogynists but cared less than nothing for children : which led to an atmosphere where, I strongly believe, networks of paedophiles infiltrated the organization with impunity.
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  Pretoria resident says - before high court in South Africa - he is the anointed one !

  by ZAPPA-ESQUE in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  pretoria [ south africa] - an unusual urgent application served before the gauteng high court this week,in which a lyttelton manor resident, who said he is was known as the “anointed one” among jehovah’s witnesses, asked the court to officially swear him in as the worldwide leader of the organisation.. ernest gericke, in papers before the court, told judge bill prinsloo that the “first business of the christ is the legal establishment of the kingdom of god on earth, known as the jehovah’s kingdom.” .

  gericke said this involved the the conducting of a covenant for a kingdom, which is to take place on april 11. .

  “in order to effect the legal requirements for the kingdom this honourable court is requested to hear the public oath of the office of the king.

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  Orphan Crow Maybe a letter writing campaign will help him? Where do we send our letters of support?

  😂😂😂I'd gladly do so.

  I'm a bit worried about the " Arrested" bit though - I've forgotten to 'Jolen' my lady 'tache this week - would it count as a beard and if so does that mean I would be summoned to appear before a magistrate by his Highness the Anointed?
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  Marc & Cora on YouTube causing unnecessary divisions

  by jambon1 in

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  2. friends

  what is it with this pair?

  why do they have to constantly have a bitch about guys like john cedars?

  a very recent video of them shows them calling him a 'village idiot' and making other disparaging claims.

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  Argue, debate, express your feelings ....it's all good and healthy, Mike and Cora made some good points as did Cedars in his excellent video.

  But I agree with room 215, please, for goodness sakes, don't start bashing other individuals who happen to disagree with you. It came across as petty and vindictive and takes away the power of your message.

  I thought Kim's reading of the Russian constitution, though, very interesting and I would recommend a listen ( it's in the first part of the video if you want to avoid the playground squabbles).
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  We Pass the Bread and the Wine Just like in the Bible! But, why is forbidden to eat?

  by lusitano o tuga in

  1. social
  2. humour

  see what bridget azaz did!.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzbe5yo7uq4.

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  Irishdub what scriptural proof do you have for this opinion

  It's just the fact when they partook they hadn't been anointed with holy spirit yet. *That* didn't happen until Pentecost.
  
  
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  Just a quick Poll...Do you think the GB is sincere?

  by NikL in

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  2. friends

  i've been thinking about this the past few days and curious what the honest consensus is here just for fun.. show of hands,.

  is the governing body.... a: completely sincere.

  they really do believe what they teach.. b: somewhat sincere.

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  SBFatIn historical perspective I reckon the most sincere believer ever on the Governing Body was probably Jack Barr. And the most likely candidates for people who realised it was all nonsense - Nathan Knorr and Lyman Swingle.

  Have you seen the Bethel widows video? Jack Barrs wife I strongly suspect is at least a bit awake!

  I agree all the leaders - Russel, Rutherford, Knorr and Franz *knew* it was made up BS.
  
  
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  Just a quick Poll...Do you think the GB is sincere?

  by NikL in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been thinking about this the past few days and curious what the honest consensus is here just for fun.. show of hands,.

  is the governing body.... a: completely sincere.

  they really do believe what they teach.. b: somewhat sincere.

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  Depends

  Jackson - sincere. Wasn't a long term bethelite so hasn't played/seen all the bitchy arse kissing politics. Was a missionary in the islands and bought a lot of Polynesian's in - they are madly religious there and although he thinks jah has blessed him anyone who preached there through the 80s would have had the same results.

  Herd - Is a true believing /born and raised Christian, for sure, but I get the feeling he is tired of it all, he's seen the generation teaching fail and I think he's now not 1oo% but has no choice of course.

  Morris - egotistical narcissist who just loves the power so doesn't stop to worry if it's true.

  Lett - I think he's a bit nutty, kindly believer whose none to bright Tbh

  Splane - haven't got a glue about him. Can't read him at all. I think he enjoys the social side and getting into everyone's business. Seems intelligent so I don't understand his tomfoolery with the generations. No education of course.

  Losche - the cowardly one who knows damn well there are problems but is too weak and lacks the moral fibre to face it.

  Sanderson - maybe I'm reading him wrong But he seems the ambitious type. I get the feeling he looks forward to the day some of the old buggers die so he can shake things up a bit. Definately NPG.
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  The Pagan Origins of the Memorial Observed by Jehovah’s Witnesses

  by David_Jay in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  “we don’t celebrate holidays because god doesn’t approve of any celebration that is rooted in pagan customs and manmade traditions.” (see here for a similar jw response.).

  if you were once an ex-jw like me, you have probably said something like this out in field service to someone who asked the question: why don’t you people celebrate holidays?

  as the witnesses' official website states in an faq about not celebrating easter:.

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  Tepidpoultry Now that is a lesson we can all learn from!