Posts by Diogenesister

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Is There Anywhere To Go for an Outed JW elder/pedophile enabler?

by mrmagic in

since the australian royal commission, a lot of jw elders have been outed for either being pedophiles/molesters or for enabling it.

the jw elders who enabled it, are publicly outed to their community online and offline.

it's become a congregational matter with the entire kingdom hall and someone said that this elder would lose his eldership possibly, due to it "being known in the congregation and community" that he enabled child sexual abuse.

Diogenesister

The main info I'm digging at is can an elder who has followed the 2 witness rule , and who is now outed publicly for enabling child sexual abuse be demoted, because it is "known publicly about him"?\

Watchtower has a huge thing about image - someone who has committed a 'sin' can get away with it depending simply on whether this ' sin'is common knowledge or secret, rarther than what is in their heart. Its incredible.

I can completely see the Org demoting elders whose behaviour toward abuse victims is locally known and considered horrific. This despite the fact their unpopular behaviour was directed by the Org itself. Remember an elder must have a reputation ' without spot'.

Confronting abuse victims with their abuser tends to ruin ones reputation....and jworg is *all about the image and not the content.*

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The most successful teaching of Jehovah's Witnesses and an amazing new book on the divine name

by slimboyfat in

jehovah's witnesses have had to revise their chronology and various doctrinal interpretations due to events and scholarly corrections.

but the one teaching where they have been consistently ahead of the curve is the importance of jehovah's name.. .

i'm going to run through a (necessarily selective) timeline of jw events and scholarly publications that demonstrate the phenomenal success of this teaching in the last days.

Diogenesister

Another Slimboyfat troll post. This breathless posturing - " the last days" the groundbreaking Watchtower - oh please.

IAW was used by one break off sect of Jews near the first century.

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Speaking of the 144,000...................

by The Fall Guy in

...........why would an all-powerful christ, whom the bible describes as having been given "all authority", need 144,000 other king/priests as "helpers" to run his universal organization?

(matthew 28:18) .

1 corinthians 15:25 - "for he [not 144,000] must rule as king until god has put all enemies under his feet.".

Diogenesister

why would an all-powerful Christ, whom the Bible describes as having been given "all authority", need 144,000 other king/priests as "helpers" to run his universal organization?

Not to mention the myriads and myriads of angels to do Jesus bidding.

Of course JW's say only the 144,000 can really " understand our human frailties and imperfections".

If Antony Morris 3rd is among them, I very much doubt that!

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Marry only in the Lord

by Jules Saturn in

the second half of 1 corinthians 7:39 reads "...she is free to be married to whomever she wants, only in the lord.".

so we all know that scripture for being doctrine for witnesses when they select a marriage mate and how they are strictly encouraged to marry amongst themselves and look down upon or marked if they marry an outsider.

i have a friend who met a worldly man and when it came to light, her father gave her the option to end the relationship or to marry him, and she chose the latter.

Diogenesister

Long hair gal The religion couldn't care less if single women ended up poor or dead. This is why I was SO right to have never listened to these sonofabitches!!

This is heartbreakingly true.

Humble, hardworking always at everyone's beck and call. The workhorses of the org.

Have you read "Animal Farm" where the poor dear draught horse works himself into an early grave for the ruling " pigs" in the Big House? They turn him into glue when he's dead.

He represents the single women in The WTBTS.

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Worldly people

by Akid48 in

as i have come to see i have way more friends at school than my kingdom hall but if i get asked about school and i say something about my friends or ask to hang out with my friends to my aunt she gives me a talk about not to like worldly people to much.. for example i ask to go to my friends house (that is a girl)i have known her from 1st grade and my aunt gets mad at me saying what if she says i raped her or something but she lets me go by my self with brothers to hang out if i want but theres a chance i will get raped there to.. read my other posts to understand my story .

akid69.

Diogenesister

Wake me up before you Jo-ho, A kid48

I would just bring up the 1006 victims of paedophiles within the organization *in Australia alone* if they bring up the " dangers" of worldly people. Also if they are so dangerous KNOCKING ON THEIR DOORS is about the most dangerous thing you can do!!

A kid48I know she's your Aunt, and your only family now, which is why Its so, so important NOT to get baptised - so she won't have to shun you in the future. Even if the pressure to do so is intense for a while, it will slacken off and as you grow up and leave home they will most probably learn to accept you as you are.

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Worldly people

by Akid48 in

as i have come to see i have way more friends at school than my kingdom hall but if i get asked about school and i say something about my friends or ask to hang out with my friends to my aunt she gives me a talk about not to like worldly people to much.. for example i ask to go to my friends house (that is a girl)i have known her from 1st grade and my aunt gets mad at me saying what if she says i raped her or something but she lets me go by my self with brothers to hang out if i want but theres a chance i will get raped there to.. read my other posts to understand my story .

akid69.

Diogenesister

exjwlemming: that was heartbreaking. Have you ever told your mother this?

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Worldly people

by Akid48 in

as i have come to see i have way more friends at school than my kingdom hall but if i get asked about school and i say something about my friends or ask to hang out with my friends to my aunt she gives me a talk about not to like worldly people to much.. for example i ask to go to my friends house (that is a girl)i have known her from 1st grade and my aunt gets mad at me saying what if she says i raped her or something but she lets me go by my self with brothers to hang out if i want but theres a chance i will get raped there to.. read my other posts to understand my story .

akid69.

Diogenesister

> your friend might say you raped her

what a horrible thing for a grown woman to say to a 13 yr old boy who wants to go play with his friend.

I mean what if an elephant goes into musk in the local zoo, breaks out, charges you and you become a paraplegic? That could happen too, you know.

sheesh.

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Question for those who went to the RC

by joe134cd in

i'm just curious with all the happy clapping that is now going on with the singing at the conventions.

what has been the reaction to it with the r&f.

has anyone ever commented that it reminded them of a pentecostal revival meeting.

Diogenesister

I don't understand what the big deal is with choirs anyway. Well I do, can't have anyone enjoying themselves.

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Finds in Jerusalem shore up biblical account of Babylonian conquest (586 BCE date)

by Hecce in

this is a nice article about archaeological finds, what caught my attention is the use of 586 bce as the date for the destruction of jerusalem.. according to biblical descriptions, in 586 bce, the babylonian king nebuchadnezzar vanquished the judaean king zedekiah and razed his capital city, jerusalem.

the babylonian captain of the guard nebuzaradan was dispatched into the city, where, as told in the book of jeremiah, he “burned the house of the lord, and the king’s house; and all the houses of jerusalem, even every great man’s house, burned he with fire.”.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/new-jerusalem-finds-shore-up-biblical-account-of-babylonian-conquest/.

Diogenesister

Most interesting is the naked statue of a women, a goddess most likely AND a necklace of Sekhmet Egypt Ian goddess of War( whoo whoo Watchtower... pagans in David's Holy City, in the Temple buildings no less!!)

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Finds in Jerusalem shore up biblical account of Babylonian conquest (586 BCE date)

by Hecce in

this is a nice article about archaeological finds, what caught my attention is the use of 586 bce as the date for the destruction of jerusalem.. according to biblical descriptions, in 586 bce, the babylonian king nebuchadnezzar vanquished the judaean king zedekiah and razed his capital city, jerusalem.

the babylonian captain of the guard nebuzaradan was dispatched into the city, where, as told in the book of jeremiah, he “burned the house of the lord, and the king’s house; and all the houses of jerusalem, even every great man’s house, burned he with fire.”.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/new-jerusalem-finds-shore-up-biblical-account-of-babylonian-conquest/.

Diogenesister

who used to show up on every 607 post? I always hoped he lived long enough to see the WT drop the significance of that date.

Am I missing something ? They haven't dropped the significance of 607 have they?