gluttony seems to be a sin that jw's like to ignore .there are several scriptures that point out that gluttony is a sin, proverbs 23:20-21 "do not join those who gorge themselves on meat".....also i read somewhere that 1% is the number of disfellowshipped jw's each year......how do prove someone is a glutton and not just a person who love food???
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I don't how historically accurate it was but I have read that wealthy Romans, during New Testament times, would hold days long banquets where they would routinely make themselves sick in order to cram more food inside.
Perhaps this is why gluttony was such an issue for 1st century Christians, especially given that poor people routinely went hungry.
i am pimo but attended the r.c yesterday for family pressure reasons.
a "sister" i've not seen for a while told me her husband is overjoyed because a man he called on recently in the field service suddenly told him he wanted to attend the r.c.
the unusual thing is, this man is a millionaire having built a property portfolio.
moreconfusedthanever, and all newbs
PIMO: Physically in mentally out
PIMI :hysically in mentally in
POMI: physically out mentally in
POMO:Physically out mentally out
i bring this up because of an article in the supplement of the sunday mail in victoria australia "stellar" that pregnant serena williams is a devout (ihate that word ) jehovahs witness.
i have sent a letter to the editor about it ,i wonder if it gets published.. has the wt ever distanced themselves from the claims that serena herself has claimed to be a witness ?
when accepting a win in one of her succesful matches ?.
konceptual99 It wouldn't surprise me if she was never that regular even as a young person.
To get that good at tennis you have to devote an incredible amount of time to the sport, so you couldn't possibly be attending to all the usual Watchtower demands in full, or anywhere near. I would hasten to add neither could her parents, who would have had to have been very committed to helping them reach such a standard. Ferrying to practice, tournaments and the like.
according to today's wt, jws are now encouraged to start bible studys with worldy kids even if their parents dont want to join in.
the wt suggests that the study should take place with the parent present or with another mature jw present.. the wt suggests that studying with the kid may make the parent eventually want a study too.. ...
in what situation would any worldly parent allow some stranger from a werid cult to come jnto their house and convert their children?
In a situation where the parents are neglecting the child and either don't know, are not around or are happy to offload their kids on someone else.
Watchtower knows full well we're talking about vulnerable kids here who are probably desperate for any kind of adult attention.
This happened to me.
my punt 16144 , do you like my last three numbers !.
I don't understand why jw's can't see that:
They are told Most partakers are deluded.
GB get things wrong constantly, Fred Franz got 1975 wrong
Q. Therefore cannot the GB be deluded?
A. But holy spirit
Q. Peadophile elders?
A. Therefore the GB can be deluded!
just like naming of days of the week and months are of astrological/pagan origin, the widely used word amen too is pagan, and has contributed to mind-control.. each time we say “amen” at the end of prayer we may think that we mean only "verily" and "truly".
unfortunately, we overlook something very important.
amen, amen-ra is the "most high" egyptian solar archetype [egyptian sun god, known as amun/amin/amen ra, meaning "the hidden god" and thus, the phrase "amen" would originally mean "let it remain hidden/secret."].
Venus Not saying its not true but do you have, or know of, any research on the subject? It's just I've heard that amen isnt derived from Amon Ra...but whoever wrote that may be wrong, they offered no proof.
gluttony seems to be a sin that jw's like to ignore .there are several scriptures that point out that gluttony is a sin, proverbs 23:20-21 "do not join those who gorge themselves on meat".....also i read somewhere that 1% is the number of disfellowshipped jw's each year......how do prove someone is a glutton and not just a person who love food???
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Jwfacts It is the ultimate in hypocrisy, since an obese person will die earlier than a smoker, and gluttony is mentioned in the Bible as a son whereas smoking is not.
I used to work in a liver unit, and research demonstrates that obesity is more damaging to the liver than smoking and oftentimes even alcoholism.
gluttony seems to be a sin that jw's like to ignore .there are several scriptures that point out that gluttony is a sin, proverbs 23:20-21 "do not join those who gorge themselves on meat".....also i read somewhere that 1% is the number of disfellowshipped jw's each year......how do prove someone is a glutton and not just a person who love food???
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Even openly ignoring the doctor's orders to just WALK a little! But, no. Not even that. How does it not hurt their conscience to be up on stage and say "hey everybody! Imitate me! As I imitate JC!"
How does he remain an elder yet not preach? The old school jws , mostly gone or in their 80s and 90s now, stayed remarkably fit in the UK through lots of good old fashioned walking in the ministry. I hear in the states people drive more due to the vast distances. Or is it the case that's a modern phenomenon ?
my boyfriend is an ex new jehovah witness and today i got a message from one of his friends asking if i could delete a comment he wrote on one of my pictures because my boyfriends mom is harassing him about it.
he also basically told me that she has people who added me just to view my profile and let her know!!!!
she also sends him messages and pictures from the watchtower.
Sweetie pie you have made your bed now lie in it.
well that's nice of you isn't it? Don't be a git. She probably knew nothing about this whole sorry set up when she started going out with him.
I highly recommend you go to exjwreddit for support. Its a younger crowd and we get many posts like yours.
To be really helpful I would need more info, ie is he disfellowshiped? were you dating before that? Does he believe? Is he being shunned? Has he heard of "undue influence" or the B.I.T.E. model of cult indoctrination?
As a start please you and He check out jwfacts.com to find out what we call ttatt " the truth about the truth".
jehovah's witnesses have had to revise their chronology and various doctrinal interpretations due to events and scholarly corrections.
but the one teaching where they have been consistently ahead of the curve is the importance of jehovah's name.. .
i'm going to run through a (necessarily selective) timeline of jw events and scholarly publications that demonstrate the phenomenal success of this teaching in the last days.
, you credit JWs with scholarly interest and investment. They have neither. It is enough to be told something is so - and, relievedly for untold numbers of JWs, there the matter is happily left - if it were ever picked over by any of them in the first place.
Meanwhile, among the unscholarly inclined rank and file, a cry is heard, "Anyone for tennis?...wouldn't that be nice."
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In earlier times, chastened by automatic thoughts, I would have said, "We are honoured to have had you among us." Now I exclaim, "Who was that masked stranger?" and sip distractedly on my coffee.
steve2 you are on top form in this thread - you've had me in stitches!!
