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  The Key Text on JW.Org Leaves Out The Most Important Part!

  by steve2 in

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  2. beliefs

  perhaps the one scripture most often quoted by jws is matthew 24:14: "this good news of the kingdomwill be preached in all the inhabited earth and then the end will come.

  " even after decades away from the kingdom hall, i can still rattle off that verse.

  i daresay all 8-plus million "active" jws can also recite it, plus the untold millions who have left or become inactive across the decades.. it is among the top cornerstone texts used in jw communications.. but now there's a significant shift in the use of that text: jws often focused heavily on the part of the scripture about the end coming.

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  Very interesting, Steve. We're is it, exactly...on the home page?
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  Be loyal when a relative is disfellowshipped

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  well.....they showed that shunning video again.

  you know...the one where goldilocks gets disfellowshipped- and the parents look across the hall at her with disdain.....yeah that video.. i was interested to see what kind of answers would be given during the discussion after the video and some of the reactions.

  everyone sat there gormlessly staring at the video.

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  Stuckinarut It is NO different to the JW situation. They treat people in an abusive manner, then compound the situation by maligning their character and reputation amongst the rest of the congregation, THEN think that witnesses would WANT to go back??

  Huh??

  This might be a good thing to say to "still in" dubs, I believe it will certainly make them think. The concept certainly brought it home to me.
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  Saying hello for first time

  by pimojw in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have been sneakily looking at this forum, almost every day, ever since it began!

  it has taken me till now to actually register and contribute.

  (actually i did register with a different name in the beginning but never commented).. i am a pimo elder with a fairly long history of senior "positions" in the organization.

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  Hi Pimojw! I'm really sorry you find yourself in this heinous situation.

  Judge MaClelland of the ARC called it a " captive organization"...and it's the best description I've heard.

  I think this is why shunning is the no.1 issue, and harm, for jw's. Without shunning people would have the ability to walk away from the org - and in doing so refuse to accept the other harmful practices. Jehovahs Witnesses could vote with their feet when it comes to blood, child abuse and the 2 witness rule, domestic violence and many other problems that we fear to criticise, or just debate.

  They weaponized our family's....and our conscience pays the price.

  A lot of the conflicts you have regarding beliefs ring so true for me, too! I too have a real respect and love for the man Jesus, and I don't believe he would agree with their heirachical, pharaseical attitude.

  I also think he would be found humbly working in a soup kitchen if he were on earth right now, not hurling fireballs at children with Antony Morris the turd and the rest of the GovBod.

  I'm absolutely convinced that evolution is true but how the universe and life began, that is a whole other question. I long to think a benign and wise force is there somewhere. I also think there is much to admire in Buddhism as a way of life.

  One thing I do is try not to judge. I also dislike the pomposity of believing you are utterly right as the Watchtower does, and most horrible that I look forward to a paradise for me that I will gain by the murder of 7 billion people, a billion of which at any given time are babies and young children.

  Keep on having an open mind and WELCOME!!
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  Coping With Parents' Becoming Jehovah's Witnesses

  by DNCall in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my sister recently wrote a short piece on the impact of our parents' becoming jehovah's witnesses in the 1950s.

  she was a teenager at the time.

  what is so striking and disturbing is that the same predicament faces so many teenagers to this day.

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  DN Call That is the most fantastic snapshot of a very lovely, enquiring, healthy teenage girl in a very difficult, closed-minded, unhealthy situation. Set in the fifties, it rings as true today, sadly, as it did back then....she achieved her goals without the aid of the internet, you tube and the exjw community of today.

  She was, is, a very remarkable person.

  I'd love to know if she was your elder sister, and how you fared yourself. Were you unfortunately sucked in? Perhaps never knowing the small bit of normalcy she did?

  I'd love to post this on exjwreddit as an inspiration to the many young kids going through the same thing..... 60 years later.
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  Special Talks now via video

  by AverageJoe1 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  tired of listening to your local elders giving the "special" talk ever year after the memorial?

  well don't worry, as of next year we will be spicing things up for your enjoyment.. not only will we be having the talk before the memorial (i know, wild huh), but we will be treating you to the talk via video starring our famous speakers from bethel so you can see how a talk should be given (after all bethel does boast the best speakers in any country, right?!).

  here's a copy of the text from our latest letter as i'm sure that with so much excitement you won't believe it at first!.

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  It's because they're probably getting too many invited guests (although " many" is a relative term when talking about jw guests) freaking out at the " rejection of the emblems" ceremony before they "understand" the idea behind it ( again "understand" is a relative term when it comes to etc etc.....you get the picture)
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  The JW Blood Issue: Resolved!

  by loyal2truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i just completed writing a series of 8 blog posts dismantling the watchtower's blood policies.. it was my goal to prove that the blood ban is neither scriptural nor sensible.

  this is a rewrite of the series of articles i contributed some years ago to the now defunct jehovahswitnessblog site of james peyton (you may also know james as the founder of jwpodcast.

  ) even though this is a very serious topic, i tried to stay true to the humorous mood "tenny pajamas" always managed to maintain on his site.

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  Are you SMMcRoberts? ??!!

  If so, I love you! Your writing is utterly brilliant!
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  Brazil: Judge authorizes blood transfusion in adult JW

  by darkspilver in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  fyijustice authorizes blood transfusion in jehovah's witness patient in es.

  painel politico, friday, september 15, 2017 (via google translate).

  religion does not allow the faithful to undergo the procedure, even in cases of emergency; the judge argues that the right to life overrides this.

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  It's almost certain the elderly patient has other issues, he may be semi conscious or confused, which pretty common when the elderly become sick...or in a diabetic comma.Perhaps dementia?
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  Marrying outside the lord

  by label licker in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i should know the answer to this but my memory is failing big time.

  our friend just called who is still in the cult.

  he's been away from it for about five months now.

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  Sounds like he needs a restraining order on his son. I'm so sorry for him. It sounds like he's very vulnerable. I'd advise him to say he got the marriage annulled for spiritual reasons and deny the email...say he must have seen an old one since he keeps them all. Or at worst just say you emailed him.

  He needs to learn ttatt fast if you ask me. And yes he can be DF brazen conduct covers all, although for emailing DF ones he should have a warning first.
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  Circuit leasing is expanding

  by DazedAndConfused in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i don't have time to look up a post that showed that the society has a circuit leasing site...........so here we go.

  lol.

  i looked up circuit leasing in my program "copernic" (ah what a wonderful thing) and i came up with a page that shows that not only are they in grand rapids, mi but they are also in 4 other states.

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  We in little old mother england have no idea of all this corporate stuff going on. Thinking its just a wee homespun bible loving egalitarian ....oh it breaks my heart I cant go on.

  God religion is bullshit.
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  "Please pray for me."

  by compound complex in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  greetings, friends:.

  today, i saw an old friend in town, and, after we got caught up and finally said our goodbyes, she asked me to pray for her.

  family problems were eating her up.. how have you responded if and when you were asked this?

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  Diogenesister

  This is a fantastic thread as it's something that comes up often. By refusing to say we'll pray for someone, as agnostics or atheists, are we being like Lois Lanes father....letting our pride in our rightess get in the way of comforting a person in need? Or are ]we being hypocrites and taking the easy way out by saying yes to keep them happy, whilst in reality doing nothing?

  For me, it depends on the circumstance and my relationship with the person. If I am very close to them I think I would take the time to explain my beliefs, but make sure I was there for them in body and spirit. If they were very Ill, or elderly, I would probably say to them I will do anything you ask and can I help practically too - that way allowing them to be comforted by the thought I will pray for them.

  I'm sorry I'm so wishy washy Co Co, I guess Its just about putting the person first, and not letting ourselves be like the self righteous JW in LoisLanes example.