i have seen a few comments about this week's meeting.. was there actually a part that specified an actual per-publisher amount that should be donated regularly?.
can this be confirmed please?.
i truly cant believe just how brazen the society seems to be getting - and how desperate they are!.
Light Spiller The per-publisher amount was included in a letter that was read out to all the congregation from the platform - the total amounts where:
Spain = US $ 8.34 (7 Euros)
Britian = US $4.08 (£3.00)
Hang on! I feel insulted! Why are they asking twice as much from the Spanish as they are the British?! And why so much more from the yanks?
Are we the poor bloody relatives all of a sudden?!
i am prepared for shunning when i send in my da letter.
my dad was furious when he comes back from overseas and find out that i have da myself.
yes, i do regret not talking to him first before i da...i also know that my mom is crying in her room.. but they didn't chase me out of the house.
I'm so glad you have a wonderful granny on side!!
It seems to me you are a very loving son since you won't "land them right in it" by telling grandma how rotten they are behaving. Many kids wouldn't be so forgiving and mature.
Have you joined reddit yet? Exjwreddit is a MUST for your age group! You will be an instant hero I have to say!
anyone who questions the governing bodys authority is labelled as an apostate and almost always they bring up the story of korah and his revolt against moses.. watchtower august 1st, 2002, the article loyally submit to godly authority paragraphs 8-15.. https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2002563.
in not so subtle hint, the gb likens themselves to moses, and those who disagree with the gb are korah.. paragraph 15 is actually quite damaging to the gb's argument though:.
it was so unnecessary for all those people to lose their lives.
Phizzy seems to me it is impossible to do this, last time I tried the Elder I asked said "There is sufficient evidence for me to believe in their authority".
It's funny he said that because I was thinking about the Pope, who they revile so much.
He has way more followers.
Lineage goes right back to the apostles.
Catholics DO have love for neighbour, they build schools hospitals, food banks etc
Miracles have been done by Catholic saints ( according to themselves)
Edit: Catholic church has more blessings in the form of money and beautiful " quick builds" lol!
Really,there is no difference between them, they both claim similar things with zero evidence.
JUST obey the GovBod so thoroughly because they hold their relatives hostage. The minute they stop doing that we will see how "loyal" jws are!!
greetings, gourmands of the forum!.
i agree with garfield, but mayo comes in a close second.
slathering my pasta with an inch of best foods real mayonnaise (hellman's, east of the rockies) is close to heaven for me.
Olives...yummy
Eggs are very versatile,too. Nice omelette!
Mangos are my fave fruit.
But I suppose you'd have to say wheat, because you can make flour to make bread
Salt and pepper are pretty handy too.
i have been sneakily looking at this forum, almost every day, ever since it began!
it has taken me till now to actually register and contribute.
(actually i did register with a different name in the beginning but never commented).. i am a pimo elder with a fairly long history of senior "positions" in the organization.
Ruby456 I think that in another time and place JWs would have made great senators, leaders, teachers and pace setters for the betterment of society. It is just that you got caught up in something that went horribly wrong.
Hallelujah to this !!!
one or two notable points from chapter 18 of "god's kingdom rules.".
“it will never beg nor petition men for support”.
7 brother russell and his associates refused to imitate the money-raising schemes so common in the churches of christendom.
"Zions watchtower has, we believe, Jehovah for its backer and while this is the case we will never beg or petition for support."
But we will con people out of their money by pretending to sell miracle wheat instead!!!
i am prepared for shunning when i send in my da letter.
my dad was furious when he comes back from overseas and find out that i have da myself.
yes, i do regret not talking to him first before i da...i also know that my mom is crying in her room.. but they didn't chase me out of the house.
Oh I just want to hug you, it must hurt like hell At first freedom...But then you start to feel so lonely, I get it.
I think pale.empowers advice is absolutely spot on. You could also post on exjwreddit too, as there are lots of kids your age in exactly your situation. I believe it will get better but you must take care of yourself, as your parents are not watching over you so much. And please, no smoking!!I speak as one who is suffering now for doing so. Your mum could probably smell it on you or your clothes. It's very obvious to non smokers even when you do so away from them.
Don't use on your pain, it's a dangerous place to be. That's how addictions happen. I seriously would consider getting some help from the school councillor as this is a hell of a chunk you've bitten off.
I hope your parents soften their stance when they start getting over their anger. In the meantime please seek out some help as you are clearly suffering and know you are a very worthwhile and valuable human being who deserves the love of his parents no matter what their warped religion tells them.
has anyone had this experience.
that once some contact is made with others here they never write again?
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Oh im guilty, I'm afraid. And its the weirdest thing but it's like I'm frightened of rejection. I have very low self esteem and I'm so thrilled when ever I get a pm, or any friendship overture, in fact. I think, though, if they get to know me they won't like me so I am afraid to persue it.
It doesn't mean I don't think about the person, sometimes very very often.
perhaps the one scripture most often quoted by jws is matthew 24:14: "this good news of the kingdomwill be preached in all the inhabited earth and then the end will come.
" even after decades away from the kingdom hall, i can still rattle off that verse.
i daresay all 8-plus million "active" jws can also recite it, plus the untold millions who have left or become inactive across the decades.. it is among the top cornerstone texts used in jw communications.. but now there's a significant shift in the use of that text: jws often focused heavily on the part of the scripture about the end coming.
Very interesting, Steve. We're is it, exactly...on the home page?
well.....they showed that shunning video again.
you know...the one where goldilocks gets disfellowshipped- and the parents look across the hall at her with disdain.....yeah that video.. i was interested to see what kind of answers would be given during the discussion after the video and some of the reactions.
everyone sat there gormlessly staring at the video.
Stuckinarut It is NO different to the JW situation. They treat people in an abusive manner, then compound the situation by maligning their character and reputation amongst the rest of the congregation, THEN think that witnesses would WANT to go back??
Huh??
This might be a good thing to say to "still in" dubs, I believe it will certainly make them think. The concept certainly brought it home to me.
