Posts by Diogenesister

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DPRK Asserts that USA has Declared War

by cofty in

north korea has taken president trump's recent statements as a declaration of war.

pyongyang reserves the right to shoot down american planes even if they are not inside their airspace.. i listened to trump's speech to the un with dismay.

it demonstrated a total lack of understanding of his enemy and the inevitable consequences of inflicting personal insults on kim jong-un.

Diogenesister

I've got one thing to say in all this.

I pity the people of the Korean peninsula with all my heart. Mothers must be absolutely terrified right now.

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Irma Message

by wifibandit in

greetings brothers,.

the branch committee has prepared an encouraging video meant to encourage and reassure those affected by the recent storm.

please note that this link or any images from the video are not to be posted to the internet or any social media.. irma message - english.

Diogenesister

I note they said " give spiritual and emotional support to others...INCLUDING YOUR NEIGHBOURS" !!

What CHRISTIAN religion has to ADD that and remind its members that essentially being nice to other victims *includes* one's NEIGHBOURS?

yeah.....essentially they said nothing and gave zero commitment. You can be sure any help they DO* give they will insist on being reimbursed for ......by jw's insurance claim monies.

* essentially they organize 'other jw's to donate time and materials.

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Counselling

by jhine in

does anyone know of an online site for jws who have been sexually abused in the wt ?

where someone who is in a relationship with someone who has been abused can talk to others who have had the same experience and maybe their family members ( if they are supportive obviously ) .

a friend of mine is in that situation and would like some insight into how to help their partner .

It's Alright to Give Up

by truth_b_known in

i recently watched this john cedars video and it really moved me.

i just wanted to share it.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp2q0yiy6eq&t=479s.

Diogenesister

Cedars does some absolutely fantastic work, he really does. Great analogy there.

"Who is going to be your Sazuki??"

Probably that dear friend or beloved family member you are currently shunning.

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Counselling

by jhine in

does anyone know of an online site for jws who have been sexually abused in the wt ?

where someone who is in a relationship with someone who has been abused can talk to others who have had the same experience and maybe their family members ( if they are supportive obviously ) .

a friend of mine is in that situation and would like some insight into how to help their partner .

Hi there, I'm really sorry to hear of your friend and partners suffering. The best place I can recommend that may be able to help is Barbara Anderson's silentlambs.org . There is bound to be a users forum and someone there will I'm sure be able to point them in the right direction for region/country etc. The site was set up by Barbara, an ex Bethelite ,who left when she uncovered the shocking number of child abuse victims within the org. and her web site is very much geared to that issue.

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By what authority does the Watchtower declare itself biblical interpreter?

by TTWSYF in

we're god's reliable mouthpiece, but not prophet?

jesus inspected all faiths in 1914?.

does everyone agree or is it more convoluted than that?.

Diogenesister

"Jehovah God is the Grand Identifier of his true messengers."

What makes him the " Grand" identifier? Does he have a big pointy stick?!

"Jehovah is also the Great Exposer "

I won't go there.....

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Question for SBF

by Fisherman in

slimboyfat, it appears that wts is going, gone digital.

can you show your view what is wts next move after they are completely gone from kings county and settled in warwick?

- this thread is your if you want it..

Diogenesister

think we shouldn't underestimate the impact of Gilead missionaries in the past for promoting growth in places like Japan, Nigeria, Brazil and so on. So the removal of Gilead will contribute significantly to declining numbers.

Thank you SBF. What you say about the financial burden of Giliead makes a lot of sense...what with training and ongoing support.

Also, I don't know if you managed to read the post about the reddit CO (AMA) as he was also a missionary. His commitment and energy ( bi-lingual, well trained and full time ) definitely backs up what you were saying: that the loss of these folks will have a huge impact on the numbers of new converts in those countries.

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Do they take the GB seriously?

by Tech49 in

jw
friends

so this is an honest question that i have been thinking about for some time.. do regular jehovahś witnesses in other countries (other than the usa) take the governing body in new york seriously?.

i mean, i cant help but wonder about the publishers in japan, or south africa, or mexico, or new zealand, or even the uk, or spain, or italy...... or russia?.

not you and i (we know what you think of them), but the regular jwś...... do they take these american buffoons seriously?

Diogenesister

oesUpa day agoa day ago

"They're imperfect men is their get out of jail free card."

Couldn't agree more PE. We even tell family members not to use that one before it even comes out of their mouth. We tell them, we DON'T buy it! It's a cop out!!!!

Agree, Toes up. But what I don't get is how they can't see the " imperfect men" thing must also apply to Catholics, Muslims, Baptists, Methodists.....etc etc

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Jehovahs witnesses that believe its "The Truth" vs JW's who know it isn't

by Christian Gutierrez in

jw
friends

hey guys!

what do you think is the percentage of jw's believe that it is the truth and the percentage of those who think it might be some false or all false??

?.

Diogenesister

Depends if you included children and young people in that percentage.

If you did it would be pretty high....after all something like 66% of people raised as JW eventually leave.

If we are taking about baptised established jw's over the age of 25, I'd say a good 5 - 10 % are trapped in and would walk out tomorrow if they wouldn't be shunned. At least.

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Question for SBF

by Fisherman in

slimboyfat, it appears that wts is going, gone digital.

can you show your view what is wts next move after they are completely gone from kings county and settled in warwick?

- this thread is your if you want it..

Diogenesister

I agree with how you see "the end" playing out , I'd possibly stretch out the timing....30 -40 years??

I find the demise of Giliead the most telling. I'm sure we have some ex Giliead missionaries on here and I'd be interested to hear their take.

Is it because they can no longer prove their doctrines? Are they fearful of the students researching for themselves or is it purely money?