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  question: Pinky rink, the ring i have seen on alot of the GB resembles a Masionic ring

  by goingthruthemotions in

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  i get infuriated when i see the god's (guardians of doctrine) sporting pinky rings or rings on there right hands.

  like a club association.

  when i try and take a look at the ring it resembles a masionic ring.

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  Vidiot2 years ago2 years ago

  Does this look like the kind of guy the Freemasons would want?

  Yeah I understood they were kinda selective about who could join, Vidiot, they don't take any old riff-raff
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  First posting on here..Hello all

  by London Underground in

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  just wanted to say a big hello to everyone, my first post on here was actually yesterday but it was deleted.. so will keep this one short to save my precious time just in case its also deleted or lost.. got fed up with years of persecution from within the congregations.

  the lack of genuine friendship & lack of 'christian love'.

  having personally seen many a scandalous behaviour i began doing some research online some years ago.

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  Hi there London Undies, as punky named you, welcome to the forum.

  Sarf London here!

  Boy you're right in the thick of it up there, arent you? More jw's than you can shake a stick at. Keep researching, lots of info on here, too.Don't know what happened to your post, it's usually very straight forward. Doubt you said anything untoward...pretty broadminded types run the place, no micro managing here. Technical maybe.xx
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  An honest question for those who were "born-in"

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  just wanted to ask a question of those who were born in as i was.. how did you feel to have been "privileged to have been born into the only true faith - the truth"?.

  did this make you feel confident, or proud - or perhaps arrogant?.

  how did you reconcile the fact that 99% of the earth's population was not born "into the truth"?.

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  *not born in but so young when my "foster mum "converted I don't remember before. I was ostensibly raised by my dad but he was a mentally ill alcoholic who was always at work in london ( media type were boozing was de rigueur in the 70s). My dad's friend/neighbour simply took over. I know many would say I'm far from born in but with no mother and an absent father my only jw carer was very much in loco parentis.
  I think im an interesting case in that i thought i passionately believed, but on reflection my attitudes have always been far from typical for a jw.

  How did you feel to have been "privileged to have been born into the only true faith - The Truth"?o

  I thought that it couldn't just be down to luck. I leaned towards most of the world catching up, and that by the time I was big enough to do vs on my own most of the work would be done (LoLconvenient for me!) and every one converted.

  Did this make you feel confident, or proud - or perhaps arrogant?

  I sort of thought I had had a pretty hard time (see above) so God was kinda giving me a break LoL! I suppose that is a kind of arrogance, since most of the world's kids are way worse off.I was a very emotional kid who loved everyone, as I grew older I thought less and less of myself and thought myself utterly blood guilty...doomed to die. This by the time I was 12 I suppose.
  

  How did you reconcile the fact that 99% of the earth's population was not born "into the Truth"?

  I simply didn't believe God would kill the non believers, I had an excuse for everyone. I thought Watchtower mistaken in this, so I suppose that was dissonence.....or I just never fully understood the religion, deep down, some would say although my foster mum was an educated liberal ups convert, so perhaps she didn't either. She certainlyvrefused to shun her DF daughter and her husband had a big, bushy, untidy beard. He was never your average witness, either. As a baptised brother they did nag him, as it got into the 80s, to get it cut. He refused. Since he was the strong, silent, intelligent type no one had the balls to mess with him in the cong and since he never had aspirations, as guys with genuinely responsible, important jobs often don't, they left him alone in the end.
  

  As a child, did you ever question these things?

  I never questioned that the basic concept was the truth. However the judgementalism...no way, I didn't agree with that. Looking back I remember being shocked my friend thought it was bad to be gay!! I guess I must have known even then it was gUmpf . Or the world had influenced me more than I knew.
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  Chapter 34 New Boy 50 years a Watchtower slave

  by new boy in

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  chapter 34.

  “have another beer and forget the whole thing”.

  i saw debbie stillman on tour in september 1972 standing there in the ink room.

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  Just wondering, Keith, if those figures you have for disfellowshippjng are current? Just seems quite low to me, although I suppose DA folk are probably half that again and they amount to the same thing, really, in terms of being announced and shunned. Or are these the figures for the US of A only?

  What can I say, I am so very sorry about Dad-in-law.No one on earth deserves such treatment.

  "Her victims cry clear up to heaven"
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  Do you have a comfort dog?

  by compound complex in

  1. jw
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  greetings, dog owners and lovers:.

  since i wrote "i walk dogs" a few days ago, i started caring for a new little fellow.

  feisty and noisy, bouncing off the walls.

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  Still inToo bad they don't live longer..

  Yup. Totally. It destroys you when they pass.

  My old girl detected when my friend was about to have a grand mal fit. His first, so we didn't expect it. But she knew...she went bananas licking him, whining and trying to snuggle up to him...then BANG! It happened.

  my cat can smell my bad leg and now retracts her claws when we play...doesn't do it with anyone else and didn't do it to me until she thought me too unwell to "hunt"! She obviously thinks it not sporting; English cat that she is!
  
  
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  The boys in Pennsylvania- The real power behind Watchtower

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am quite interested in something mike and kim said in their video when talking about why their you tube videos are being taken down.

  in their video below, at around 35 seconds.

  mike say's that he has being trying to tell people that the boys in pennsylvania are the real power behind watchtower - not the governing body?.

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  Unshakle the chains He does the April 2016 episode, hopefully in the link down below. Pretty sure he's been in some more recently too. He also does morning worship which is on YouTube if you tap in his name plus william malenfant plus jwbroadcast

  https://tv.jw.org/#en/mediaitems/StudioMonthly2016/pub-jwb_201604_1_VIDEO
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  "exjws" and money making Ponzi schemes.

  by Thisismein1972 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  ok i want to pose a question to those who care to discuss this.. imagine a scenario.

  you hear of a exjw writing a book, however, before writing this book this exjw is requesting money to publish said book.

  you go along with it and help to get this book out to the public as you think that it will be beneficial.

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  Newly Enlightened Please explain how money will help Deborah Do get Crises of Conscience out faster. Please.

  People have offered to edit the book and a publisher offered his services free of charge.

  I thought the issue was health. How much does she need? A breakdown on go fund me is ALL it would take and believe me shed have all the money she requires.

  Please can you fully explain or else admit you were wrong about this one situation. Nothing wrong with believing the best of people. People on this forum DID send money, but have received no explanation as to what's happening.
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  Out of the world, into the Truth

  by apalro in

  1. jw
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  for some background - i studied on & off as a child with a jehovah's witness who has been patiently working on lots of our family for more than a decade and never gave up on any of us.

  as a middle-schooler and a highschooler, my love for jehovah and any association with my childhoood bible teacher... faded.

  disappeared.

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  Scratchme 1010 the only thing I would say;add a caution if you like, is that this forum is called Jehovahs-Witnesses.net and folk may, and often have, assumed it is for practising Jehovahs Witnesses only. So she is not necessarily a troll.
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  I'm so confused, help?

  by Ponyo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i want to share my story.

  (might be a tad long).

  i have no idea where i stand anymore regarding being a jw and where i stand in my marriage.. im 28 years old and the years are certainly ticking by.

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  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restorationism

  Have a look at this wiki article on how your Faith began, where it descended from, know also there are many jw splinter groups, contrary to Watchtower claims. Please, please have a look at jwfacts.com before you make any decisions.

  I also want to leave you this poem, it's called the cloths of heaven by w.b.Yeats."Tread softly because you tread on my dreams". I will post more later....but please don't rush into things, and know the GOD of the watchtower should play no part in your decision making because he does not exist.

  Had I the heaven's embroidered cloths,
  Enwrought with golden and silver light,
  The blue and the dim and the dark cloths
  Of night and light and the half-light;
  I would spread the cloths under your feet:
  But I, being poor, have only my dreams;
  I have spread my dreams under your feet;
  Tread softly because you tread on my dreams.
  
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  Facing Existential Dread

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the watchtower corporations main appeal is a everlasting life, this makes it possible for one to avoid existential dread.

  this type of anxiety is a part of the human condition, and it explains the appeal of many religions to the human condition as it offers some relief from the anxiety about our life ending.. psychologist show the importance for facing this dread/anxiety.

  my feeling is that the more you can accept the fact that your life is very very temporal, the better you will live your life as you accept that you are very temporary and try to live life to the full and not be duped by religions appeal to calm this anxiety.. https://www.calmclinic.com/anxiety/types/existential .

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  Thank you Brokeback Watchtower I love Woody Guthrie he calms me and makes me feel at peace like no one else. Which is funny since he's so mad with the world and cynical half the time!