Diogenesister

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  Avatar image or whatever it is called

  by amicabl in

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  could someone please tell me why my image is either sideways or upside down.

  i feel an utter fool asking this question but i can't find any help anywhere.

  sorry..

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  Amicable I totally think you should keep the photo as is....it's kinda like your " thing" now, really cute since your aussi.

  Keep it!!
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  Shunning revered?

  by new boy in

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  in 1974 the society had changed there stance on shunning dis-fellowshipping people.

  they said you could have limited association with those who were dis-fellowshipped.. what year did they change it back to the old way of shunning people?

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  I remember, as a young child, being told that for family members it was "spiritual association' only that was forbidden. That was mid to late seventies. They started tightening up around 81 for sure because shunning was extended to DA people at that point.
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  so its discussions with people..

  by zeb in

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  so the wt mag is all but gone just a few a year.

  thus a big gap in the sunday program?

  no more year books.

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  With information now reduced to almost cut-off then the parochial "I think", "I heard the other day" "We assume.." will now rife forth with ever more embellishments until the wt 'message' is not recognisable.

  Darn good point. Won't Watchtower loose more control?

  I wonder if the time will come when only special, selected "kingdom preachers" will be set loose on an unsuspecting world?!!
  
  
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  Grounds for divorce and other questions

  by new boy in

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  doing research for my book.

  since i no longer have any of of the watchtower bible and truck society publications.

  1. was it true (and believe it was) that in the nineteen sixties that even if one of the marriage mates was a homosexual that this was not concerned grounds for divorce?.

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  Physical abuse is grounds for *seperation*....not divorce.

  The infamous line considered extreme physical abuse and spiritual endangerment in the same sentence....intimating apostacy is to be likened to domestic violence, but that in either case neither partner is scripurally free to marry . It then went on to quote the Bible as saying "if a man marries a divorced women he makes her an adultress" or similar wording.

  I'm sorry I don't know the exact Watchtower it's quoted from, but it's fairly recent. I'm sure can be found on JW.org or Avoidjw.org.
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  My Invisible (cat)

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  my invisible (cat) .

  when i was a little boy all the way up to when i was a not-so-little boy, i had sort of ...well--an invisible cat as a friend.. .

  i'll let you adjust to that thought before i continue.... .

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  stuckinarut222 minutes ago

  I too speak fluent "cat".... 😻😺

  Me too, but I'm a beginner. I was hoping my relatively fluent DOG would help me, but apparently they are totally unrelated. Either that or my DOG is mighty rusty.

  
  ps. Sometimes my cat uses mighty bad language - and swears like a trooper. We invited another cat for tea the other day and it was really quite shocking ....is this common for cats or has mine absolutely no manners?
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  My Invisible (cat)

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  my invisible (cat) .

  when i was a little boy all the way up to when i was a not-so-little boy, i had sort of ...well--an invisible cat as a friend.. .

  i'll let you adjust to that thought before i continue.... .

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  I totally relate to being the kid who HAS to look every single word up - the more obscure and bizzaro the better!

  And you know what? It really works! I was tested and had a reading age of 17 when I was 10.

  The shaggy cat tail was.....stupendous!! Incredibly emotional. I don't know how old you were when you lost your mother. Her loss may go some way to explain why you became a jw.
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  Who is "The" Creator ? Jehovah or Jesus ?

  by smiddy3 in

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  is jehovah the creator ?.

  apparently jehovah created the "word" or "logos" ( jesus).

  and he never created anything else according to bible scripture.. however the first born of creation the logos /jesus was used to create everything else in the material world.. so then isn`t jesus also a creator ?.

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  a Watcher : look at the context. Most translations say BY him

  "For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him.”
  
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  Random and unsafe conditions

  by ironsnake656 in

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  one of the things that helped me in my awakening and fading process from jwland was something that i call "random failures".

  let me explain it.

  it happened like 4 years ago.

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  This is a really good observation, and wow I'd never remarked on the hard hats but now I picture it, it's absurd!

  I was taught that perfect people won't , foe example, slip and fall from a roof. But of course that's only considering human error....There are many factors that can go into an accident as you say. What about chemical reactions? Will god change physics itself so rust isn't a thing? Metallurgy?!! I know it's answering a question with a question, but it's by way of agreeing with the absurdity of the paradise proposition!
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  Barred from entering kh

  by poopie in

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  a friend of mine called last night we will call him tom.

  he is df now for 2 yrs for associating with a a df person non relative.

  anyway he arrived at the meeting this week and was informed by 3 elders that he was no longer welcomed at the hall.apparently he was caught greeting someone in the parking lot after meeting.

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  Yeah, there's something not right about this story.

  How you guys can't imagine a scenario where those swines wouldnt attempt to ban someone DF who consistently " shared a greeting" to JWs is beyond me.

  I'm sure the guy probably got worked up and tried to argue the toss with them, yes, but without doubt refusing to "respect the disfellowshipping arrangement " would result in permanently getting the boot.
  
  
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  Watchtower illogic

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  there are a number of things i find that defy logic when it come to watchtower religion.

  here is a list...please feel free to add/subtract from it.

  a. blood prohibitions: .

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  Diogenesister

  • And there's

    Claim that non-JWs who die just before the tribulation will be raised and given a chance to gain eternal life .... whereas those same people, if they are still around months later will be eternally destroyed at Armageddon.

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  • This is a huge one to me Vandy. That you can be anointed ( born pre-1934), resurrected (die pre armageddon) or destroyed (live till Armaggeddon) based soley on the accident of your date of birth. Also at any given time there will be around a billion young children destroyed at Armaggeddon - whatever date is chosen by Jah.
  • How is that at all reasonable.
  • Also, good one about stored blood for testing, didn't think of that.