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  The wonder of scientific research

  by amicabl in

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  this has possibly been brought up before however here goes.. constant reference is made by many posters to scientific research as being the only way to prove something factual that would otherwise have to be taken on faith.

  there actually seems to be "faith" in scientific findings.. my experience over many years is that most scientific research is fake.

  nothing oftencomes of the big announcements made to raise more money.. money, prestige, pride, human error, suppositions etc., are rife amongst the scientific community.. i realise that there have been many advances over hundreds of years but humankind is in a mess, although very different to even a century ago.. the medical profession now has vaccinations for everything, antiviral drugs etc.

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  I'll just add my tuppence to the fray.

  Unfortunately, scientific research requires money. And that's where entities like pharmaceutical companies, with not the best of reputations, come in. And of course companies and orgs with agendas like the tobacco growers association etc that fund research. But, that's why the scientific method is so essential...scientists can come along and falsify any dubious research or claims.

  as Cofty said you need to use critical thinking to sift through the marketing, media attention grabs etc to get to the valuable research that is done using the best weapon man has against superstition and bias which is, for now, the scientific method.
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  Worst things said in talks available online

  by usualusername1 in

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  hiya peeps.

  in my comedy routine i am keen to add some audio of the worst things jws have said in talks.

  tight pants tony.

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  Diogenesister

  There's a talk where Toni Morris says he looks forward to killing people at Armageddon with his big brother Jesus. Might be the same talk as tight pants.

  The recent annual 2017 meeting where that cold hearted S.O.B. Gerrit Losche says that praising Jehovah is MORE IMPORTANT than saving lives in the ministry.

  Below is an article about the talk no.2 you mention. The horrific gory description of Armageddon talk.

  http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/the-carnage-will-be-earthwide-new-watchtower-describes-fate-of-unbelievers
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  One Question to ask any JW that will blow their end times out of the water

  by maccauk in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  ask any jw this one question.

  are there any apostles from the 1st century still walking the earth alive today ?.

  100% will say there are no apostles from the 1st century alive today.

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  Diogenesister

  Just so you know, Apostle just means messenger, or emissary.

  Dubs could, in theory if they were educated in Biblical Greek enough, claim their C.O.'s are apostles....so yes, they are still around.
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  Great Simulator to Demonstrate How Evolution Works

  by Simon in

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  2. beliefs

  fascinating - setting up some simple rules and a way to apply evolutionary pressure and the creatures learn the best way to run:.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gofws_hhzs8.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31dsh2fs1iq.

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  Diogenesister

  Fascinating...and that's without sexual reproduction in the mix, maybe he'll introduce that later in his vids. Definitely subbed to that channel.
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  School for Congregation Elders

  by C.O.B.E.Beef in

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  i attended the school late last year, and it was an emotional and mental rollercoaster for me.

  i was already divided in my heart to say the least.

  one of the instructors stayed in my home for the week, and my family genuinely enjoyed his company.

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  I think they missed out Public relations and Financial department should be above FDS!!
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  JWs + Chronic Illness

  by Cimarrona in

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  2. experiences

  i once asked my dad why, with all the power the wt insists on having so much control over its adherents' lives, they don't provide information about healthy eating habits or, like the adventists, wilderness training.

  i mean, the gb encourage people to remain poor, and poverty is known to correlate with health outcomes, particularly those that are diet related.

  i'd say most witnesses i knew over the age of 40 were overweight, had high blood pressure, heart problems, gastrointestinal issues, one kind of cancer or another (no doubt a result of eating their feelings if you ask me).

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  Too invasive??!!!

  But a million rules about entertainment, grooming, hair length, marriage, sex, friendships, education, family relations, dating, clothing, jobs acceptable....etc etc are not at all invasive!

  By the way cimarrona I read your bio:

  academic work around literature and visual art of the African diaspora).

  Sounds really interesting! Do you have a blog? I've always wanted to study this area. I'm a waspy British girl but I've always felt the African diaspora has contributed to the creative arts in a yuuuuge way and for centuries other cultures have plagerized their ideas; often without financial recompense or honestly crediting their influence/referencing their work. I believe that's why many of the biggest modern stars seem to be money focused; they are long due recompense. What do you think?
  
  
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  If alcohol was a DF offense

  by James Mixon in

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  i guess the question which is the hardest to give up smoking or alcohol.

  many folks gave up smoking in the 70's including me but i have known some hard drinking brothers and if consuming any kind of alcohol became a df offense, i wonder.....

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  I worked in a rehab and had quite a few elders as patients.
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  If alcohol was a DF offense

  by James Mixon in

  1. watchtower
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  i guess the question which is the hardest to give up smoking or alcohol.

  many folks gave up smoking in the 70's including me but i have known some hard drinking brothers and if consuming any kind of alcohol became a df offense, i wonder.....

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  James That's one favour the Witnesses did do for you....getting you to give up smoking. I'm glad for that😀
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  Bank and ATM's..

  by zeb in

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  i went to the atm to get out my housekeeping and budgeting money.

  ($650) this covers large bills and everyday shopping for food etc.. made the withdrawal and as i fumbled my wallet the atm took the money back.

  a bank staff member was present helping another customer with the other atm and saw this.

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  Hi there Zeb sorry this happened to you....it's called a " purge" in the UK and has happened to me 3 times! It was the same ATM at a Barclays bank branch and only on one occasion did I "fumble"( or rarther my kids did). Fortunately it was only £20 each time. The one time I was using that particular banks debit card( Barclays) I received the money back.

  But on two occasions I was using another banks debit card ( Santander) and I didn't receive the money back. I hope you get it back asap.

  As if they're not rich enough already!!!
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  Excellent YouTube channel

  by Are you serious in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a few days ago, thanks to someone's post on here (sorry i forgot who it was), i found an awesome youtube channel called theramintrees.

  the videos this guy has made are amazing!

  i'm sure others here have seen some of his videos.

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  Diogenesister

  Yea the voice is somewhat strange but the information, though he applied it to all religions, really hits home when it comes to the indoctrination one receives as a jw.

  That's because the chap behind theramin trees is an exjw and fully qualified psychologist with expertise in philosophy .

  And no, his voice and presentation is neither creepy or strange but professional and entirely fitting considering the sinister subject matter.

  I highly recommend his brother Qualia soup.