Posts by Diogenesister

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In Honor of Jimmy Olson October 31, 1973

by sparky1 in

in memory of jimmy olson, i have provided a link to his story below.

many who now post here are new to the forum and i felt it was necessary to honor his memory.

although i never knew him, his brother was my roommate for a time at watchtower farms.

Diogenesister

Me too, we all should. I'll be thinking of him, though I never knew him, he was a child, YES CHILD, victim of this Nazi religion.

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The Unforgivable Sin (LOL)

by Cimarrona in

i remember my mother teaching me that a conscience was like an alarm in my head that would warn me when i'm on the verge of doing something immoral.

if i ignored the beeping, the batteries would run out.

i'd lose my moral compass.

Isn't it terrible that if you take jw theology to its logical conclusion we would all kill ourselves and our children because you're never sure you're doing enough for ~~the Organization~~ Jehovah to make it through Armageddon and at least you and your children would get resurrected that way.

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2017 Memorial Partakers

by NashvilleTele in

when does the number of memorial partakers get released for 2017. i was wondering if the number will surpass 20k.

Diogenesister

While this is just my hypothetical take, I would bet good money that the increase in Memorial Partakers is still in the U.S., and perhaps even among younger white men in positions of privilege of whom the current members of the Governing Body might even find threatening. This would account for the reason of stating these "new" partakers may have "mental issues,"

Very likely

for they will surely outlive them and be forced to revise, correct, and even dismiss the current Governing Body's doctrines

Certainly, inevitably.

as foolishness. To avoid others from listening to any of them now, the Governing Body is painting these younger men today as deranged. That is what I would say is really happening.

Dismiss as "foolishness" No way! For that would involve admitting the GB st some point were wrong and that they will never do!

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2017 Memorial Partakers

by NashvilleTele in

when does the number of memorial partakers get released for 2017. i was wondering if the number will surpass 20k.

Diogenesister

My recollection is that the greatest number of anointed remnant were in pre-war Germany in the 30s. Thus Hitler was used as a Satanic attack on Christ's brothers. Don't have the time (or interest) to go back and find the reference now.

Just my 2¢

That wouldn't surprise me, but Germans in General seem to be particularly attracted to this religion....I guess it's the control/authoritarian issue.

David_Jay mentions the amount of American "anointed" and the American sense of entitlement; that blaming 3rd world converts for increases in anointed is a convenient red herring. That very well may be, although to be fair it is an American religion so there's that.

Despite a perceived elitism Americans suffer from an inverse sort of "racism", for want of a better word. What I mean is, we all chortle at the Mormons: at the PREPOSTEROUS idea that America should be God's chosen country. I think there's a similar bias when it comes to the absurdity that a majority of anointed are American....I mean really, a 200 year old country ??!

But why ever not?? I mean why isn't it any more ridiculous that all our prophets come from Isreal? Why isn't it just as silly as Moses being Egyptian?

Why do we talk about "real" anointed ( read old) and "fake" anointed (read young). I mean apart from the fact most of these "old faithful" ones where anointed when young anyways. Why don't we laugh off our chair that Moses was an old Isrealite/Egyptian any more than a young American, like Joseph Smith?

An old guy can have had a very comfortable life thankyouverymuch, and be called "faithful". Equally a young person may have been immensely tested in their short life....yet not considered "faithfull" enough to be anointed and taken seriously.

What I'm trying to say is old, young, from Ur, Isreal or America...either consider it all as likely or consider all as unlikely.

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I wonder if their are any parents of theses children on here now .May 22 1994

by smiddy3 in

i know it could be a sensitive subject however we were all once firm believers and could have very well let one of our loved ones die due to what we once believed.. and not to be judgemental on what we would have done or did do in the past ,i sometime wonder if any of the parents or even one parent of the children of the may 22nd 1994 magazine of "youths who put god first " have now regretted their decision to let their children make this decision on their own.. after all these years i find it hard to believe that not one of them have no regrets to what happened to their child.. i can also accept that it would be extremely hard to admit that you allowed your child to make a decision to die on a belief you instilled in them that you no longer now believe in.

i think that would be very hard to live with and come to terms with.. if any of you are here my heart goes out to you because you have gone through hell and my thoughts/vibes are with you..

Diogenesister

Eyeusedtobeadub I'm so very sorry, that hits hard.I don't know what to say, I've never heard anything so gut wrenchingly sad.

No one should have the right or power to tell another how to live his life.

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I wonder if their are any parents of theses children on here now .May 22 1994

by smiddy3 in

i know it could be a sensitive subject however we were all once firm believers and could have very well let one of our loved ones die due to what we once believed.. and not to be judgemental on what we would have done or did do in the past ,i sometime wonder if any of the parents or even one parent of the children of the may 22nd 1994 magazine of "youths who put god first " have now regretted their decision to let their children make this decision on their own.. after all these years i find it hard to believe that not one of them have no regrets to what happened to their child.. i can also accept that it would be extremely hard to admit that you allowed your child to make a decision to die on a belief you instilled in them that you no longer now believe in.

i think that would be very hard to live with and come to terms with.. if any of you are here my heart goes out to you because you have gone through hell and my thoughts/vibes are with you..

Diogenesister

Not blood, But I do have a confession to make, I've never put my life story on the boards for this reason.My first son from my first marriage, well, his father kidnapped him, took him from me, because of my determination to go back to" the truth".

I found him( in another country) years later but my son never wanted to come back ( I was still indoctrinated at that stage, too). So effectively my son became motherless because of my stupidity, and as his father was a bully and an alcoholic ( I went from an abusive religion to an abusive husband and back to the abusive religion) I subjected MY son to that, too. I have a lot to answer for.

Edited to say,: his father was raised Catholic, went to an elite Christian Brothers school ( Jesuits), where a lot and I mean A LOT of abuse took place. Consequently my husband hated organized religion. He happens to be right on that point.

The Christian Brothers have since apologized for the treatment of their charges, some of whom are famous and brought it all to public notice. Google it if you're interested.

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quick question: When a governing body member dies, what happens to their spouse?

by Deltawave in

what happens to the wife after their gb husband dies..

Diogenesister

StevieThe widows live on and when they are "interviewed" at selected conventions, remain seated. It is not good for any sister to stand alone at the podium and speak - for that could be the thin edge of the wedge.

Yes I thought Marina Sydlick came dangerously close, when imparting some words of wisdom, to teaching that rabble some "bible truths" there!!! off with her head!

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quick question: When a governing body member dies, what happens to their spouse?

by Deltawave in

what happens to the wife after their gb husband dies..

Diogenesister

Dan Sydlicks wife seems a decent sort.

I've always thought the Australian sister (? Barber) so funny when she says

" because the END WAS SO NEAR BACK THEN!!" (referring to the need to find a hubby to get her through the big A.)

and everyone laughs, whether through embarrassment or because they know "the end SOON" is BS who knows?

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Why I lost my religion

by Sour Grapes in

i was a jw for over 50 years and recently just stopped cold turkey going to the meetings.

years of sitting at the meetings with the boredom, the gloom and doom, repetition of doctrine, the gloom and doom, the fake love, the gloom and doom, the end being so close, do more - do more, just got to be too much for me to stomach.

i stopped praying to god and no longer thank god for the food before i eat.

Diogenesister

Sour grapes you and I think a lot alike. Great post

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Why I lost my religion

by Sour Grapes in

i was a jw for over 50 years and recently just stopped cold turkey going to the meetings.

years of sitting at the meetings with the boredom, the gloom and doom, repetition of doctrine, the gloom and doom, the fake love, the gloom and doom, the end being so close, do more - do more, just got to be too much for me to stomach.

i stopped praying to god and no longer thank god for the food before i eat.

Diogenesister

Pete Za Even at that, I couldn't get through the Watchtower study without ducking out to my car after the public talk, to have a sip of the beer or wine I stashed there, just to stop the waves of anxiety and flip flops going on in my stomach.

A week or two after ending my meeting attendance, the years of anxiety I had been suffering, magically disappeared.

Just wanna say I'm So glad Pete Zahut . Honestly you could have ended up slowly dying that way.Believe me I've seen it happen.👍