Posts by Diogenesister

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Higher Education

by Brian J in

just spent 8 hours in a 1 day elders school last weekend.

clarification given: "moving forward any elder, ms, or pioneer who themselves or someone under their roof enrolls in higher education, may no longer qualify for privileges in the congregation.

their qualifications will have to be reviewed by their boe.".

Diogenesister

The escape route is drawn, family station wagon loaded, but car is only going 5 mph right now so as not to loose my family. Snails pace i know but they are worth it.

Now thats unconditional love, Brian. Top Dad👍

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Are Beards becoming more acceptable due to decline in membership?

by UnshackleTheChains in

i noticed a young brother with a beard being given more privelages within our hall.

when he first grew his beard, he lost his privelages.

but more and more recently he has been helping out a lot more.. the cobe is old school and a stickler for rules, but with the hall becoming more empty these days, and the need for young brothers, he seems to have relaxed on this particular watchtower/man made rule.

Diogenesister

I knew a brother who got hell for a very messy beard - but since he was baptised with it ( 70s)he said he was going to ruddy well keep it!

Its funny because his wife full time pioneered, he had an angelic family and he himself was an aeronautic engineer and pilot who could turn his hand to anything so he was always in demand. A modest man he point blank refused to take on any" absurd title". The ones that *should* be elders are the ones who don't want to be.

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Can JW's celebrate Hannukah?

by Splash in

what's the official teaching on celebrating this jewish festival?.

Diogenesister

If I were a jw I'd start celebrating the new moon, since Paul gave it the OK

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Work Christmas functions: Being a Bible Student (unbaptized)

by rulehayl in

jw
friends

hi all,i have been studying with the witnesses for more than 6 months and regularly attend both midweek & weekend meetings, and i am nearly at the end of the "bible teach" book.

my boss is adamant i attend team christmas functions.

she knows about my studying and potential baptism next year, and has suggested that i attend and just not participate in activities like kris kringle.

Diogenesister

There are 364 other days in the year to celebrate & socialize.

Not with " worldly" people you won't. That is most definitely not ok. You are expected to keep association with non-Jws to the minimum. Essentially work and school. The 2016 " wife of lot" convention videos even condemned associating with non-jw FAMILY. Visiting a brother, even AFTER celebrations are done, on his birthday would be a huge no-no.

Also your school analogy, comparing the need for rules with that of rules within cults, was way off the Mark. Basically a cult is an abuser and CAN be best compared with an abusive partner. A school is a place which benefits you in the end, the rules there to help you achieve your positive outcome can be compared to the' rules' within a healthy relationship - honesty equality, fairness including sharing financial burdens, commitment, respect, unconditional love.

The rules within a cult, an unhealthy place that does not benefit you, and their rules can best be compared to the 'rules' within an abusive relationship - lies, deception, extreme hierarchy and inequality, unfair burdens, financial dishonesty, one sided commitment, violence towards spouse & kids acceptable, love conditional on your obedience.

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Work Christmas functions: Being a Bible Student (unbaptized)

by rulehayl in

jw
friends

hi all,i have been studying with the witnesses for more than 6 months and regularly attend both midweek & weekend meetings, and i am nearly at the end of the "bible teach" book.

my boss is adamant i attend team christmas functions.

she knows about my studying and potential baptism next year, and has suggested that i attend and just not participate in activities like kris kringle.

Diogenesister

Rulehayl I have actually religion-shopped through other forms of Christianity, but they don't do it for me. The only other people to come close are the Mormons.

I do worry about someone who finds the two most appealing religions the two largest cults.

I don't think this lady will come back as I believe she thought we were active dubs.

I can understand someone being defensive if she is a loyal type but it doesn't mean some of the things she learnt here didn't sink in. Some people just take longer to process stuff.

Doesn't her name make you think of Rue-Paul??!!!

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Pedophile JW Elder Louis (Lou) Daigle sentenced to 11 years

by Trevor Scott in

former jw elder and now convicted pedophile/rapist is (finally) behind bars.

i knew the bastard personally and can't tell you how happy i am to see this sick sob behind bars.

just wish it could have happened sooner.. http://www.blumbergs.ca/articles/81-year-old-ontario-man-sentenced-to-11-years-in-prison-in-a-1953-historic-.

Diogenesister

Hi misguided. Are you married to Daigle1212? Is he ok ?? I just read his post and felt so very very sorry for him. Brave man. Is your sister-in-law ( victim) still a witness? If so does she still have contact with her father?

I hope so much your family ( the children's generation and extended family) find peace. I can't understand your mum in law. I know nonjw women married to men who do this do stay with them, but I can't help but think in the witness world the pressure to do so is much greater. I have little compassion for her, though, shunning the son that stood by her victim daughter.

Hope all is well with YOU and yours.All the very best Dio xx

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"In a human moment before Jehovah grabbed her"

by truthseeker in

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friends

i often wondered how far back the witnesses had been involved with my family.

my grandmother died at the end of 2013 and while going through her photos we found some of my great-grandmother, dora, who was born in 1901 and died in 1994. there is a photo of dora dated 1946 standing outside her house in east riding, yorkshire.

on the back of the photo her husband had written "in a human moment before jehovah grabbed her".. my great grandfather, who died before i was born, did not like the witnesses.

Diogenesister

oh Truthseeker your great grandmother was an extremely talented woman. The oil painting at The top is stunning, as is The beautiful rose.

The cartoon illustration reminds me so much of The very early Disney drawings...the very first Mickey mouse cartoons and super early Betty Boop. Its the shape of the faces. Gorgeous. The stylish clothes drawings in your grandma's scrapbook wouldn't look out of place in a modern designers port folio, it's funny how clothes come around. I remember those thick stockings, my great grandmother used to wear them! You could obviously still obtain them in the 80's....they were opaque, made of thick cotton I believe, were an odd pebble shade and had very distinctive thick seams which your great grandmother so clearly illustrates.

Thank goodness your family have managed to hang on to so many precious treasures - given they travelled, plus the disruption of two world wars . They are priceless. I'm sure a design museum would love to exhibit them!! An art historian would certainly be enthralled! Thank you so much for sharing them with us. Boy I love this forum! I'm sure people I knew would have crossed paths with your grandmother, but since they are all passed sadly I will never know.

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What Would Happen If A Governing Body Member Was In Russia After The Label Of Extremist Was Held Up In Court

by Brokeback Watchtower in

would they get their visa revoked?

would they be arrested?

if i remember right didn't one new guy gb go to the procedings and was there for appeal?

Diogenesister

I know Marc Sanderson hot footed it right outta there straight away !! I think the same day they lost the appeal. I remember them bragging on the "miracle" that they managed to obtain tickets at the airport(last minute) when their usual travel agent had sold out!

Hold the press!!!

D'ya think the pope will have 'ole Sanderson declared a saint when he finds out?!

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The Legend of Kevin Bunker!!

by Diogenesister in

i had to post this here as i thought it was really funny.. even morph, i think, would have to agree it's quite entertaining!.

https://youtu.be/y18j3bux5qq.