Fred franztone Jwundubbed is not talking about merry drunk or even plastered drunk, but unconscious drunk!
Stating women, in whatever state, should consent to sex is not an "agenda".
Diogenesister
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A Former Jehovah's Witness shares her me too story
by LisaRose inhttps://ww2.kqed.org/news/2017/12/16/a-former-jehovahs-witness-shares-her-metoo-story/.
when i was 23 years old, i started dating a (jehovah’s) witness boy and we’d go out to some dance clubs.
there was a night in particular where i had too much to drink.
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Visited My Grandfather
by Saethydd inmy grandfather is a longtime jw with advanced parkinson's.
on the advice of a good friend mine who is inactive but not "out" i went to visit him monday and we talked for awhile.
his health isn't well, but he was happy to see me.
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He seemed almost... proud of me for going to college and trying to do something useful with my life.
The Parkinson's is destroying the years of indoctrination and his "authentic self" is shining through.
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Visited My Grandfather
by Saethydd inmy grandfather is a longtime jw with advanced parkinson's.
on the advice of a good friend mine who is inactive but not "out" i went to visit him monday and we talked for awhile.
his health isn't well, but he was happy to see me.
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Diogenesister
Go back, see your Grandpa, don't let the shunners get in their way. Tell them he's not going to "offend Jehovah" because he doesn't exist.
If they want to stop you tell social services; it's elder abuse to stop someone who is weak and Ill from receiving guests he wishes to see.
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You Just Can't Make This S--t Up!
by FedUpJW ini know this is kind of trivial but i don’t want to partake in something that might have connections with something that jehovah disapproves of.
i checked the watchtower library and i didn’t find anything on gingerbread man cookies.. .
good lord...how incredibly stupid and helpless are jdubs getting?
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Whoa... next the dub kids will get out of eating brussel sprouts because, y'know, they're associated with Christmas.
Shun those sprouts boy!!
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Strange
by Jrjw ina couple of times at the meetings this year we've been told that in the future we might get some strange directions from the society that might not make any sense to us.
then they've said will we show our loyalty to jehovah by still obeying?
seems a rather unusual thing to say.
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OC It would seem strange all right - to give the green light to blood that has been made by human intervention but at the same time say that blood "made by God" isn't okay to be used
Wow. Thats fascinating OC, as long as its safe for them and we don't have the jw "human guinea pig" disasters of their previous bloodless/synthetic medicine tests.
I mean, wouldn't it be fantastic to know no more jw women in childbirth, babies and children will die whilst we're waiting for the cult's demise? I mean if it works? (Aren't these pharma companies fortunate that they have a ready source of patients to "practice" on? /s)
It's certainly could be the litigation free "way out" the cults been looking for.
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Charging $150 To Tell Your Stories
by Bangalore inhttps://www.indiegogo.com/projects/how-to-escape-from-jehovah-s-witnesses-religion#/.
for $150: collaboration with the backer so that their story of successfully escaping an abusive belief system (300 words max) features along with others in the final pages of how to escape from jehovah's witnesses.
the text will be written by the author but will include a minimum of one quote worded by the backer.
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was so surprised and disappointed to learn of this in-fighting, even more so when I became the target of the aggressive apostate vitriol.
Whilst that is horrible to hear, especially with you being newly awoken ( one good thing about this forum is the unwritten tradition that all bets are off with new posters, they should be treated with tact and respect).
However I just made a post about our disunity being our strength. We can and do have differing views, like any normal, healthy community. Uniformity is usually a bad sign in a group, but its true in the cult you loose the art of debating and so many see a disagreement as a personal attack.
Let's rejoice in our non conformity, learn from our mistakes and move on, I guess.
Susan Gaskin has just made a great video on the subject.
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The Elephant in the room: ExJw disunity
by Diogenesister infantastic new video by the lovely susan gaskin and friend andrea discusses the huge variety of exjw opinions and why our supposed disunity is in reality our strength.
the witnesses will claim we cannot agree and there are nothing but fights and a lack of harmony within our community whereas they are the most unified religion who believe the same things where ever you go.
however andrea points out that this is just an illusion, there is no unity amoung jws.
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Fantastic new video by the lovely Susan Gaskin and friend Andrea discusses the huge variety of exjw opinions and why our supposed disunity is in reality our strength.
The Witnesses will claim we cannot agree and there are nothing but fights and a lack of harmony within our community whereas they are the most unified religion who believe the same things where ever you go. However Andrea points out that this is just an illusion, there is no unity amoung JWs. Their uniformity of views is based on fear, conformity is the norm because any dissent will get you booted out. Forvexample the sham of the kingdom hall show of hands - when anyone not voting with the BOE is promptly hauled in the back room.
"Theyre looking for ammunition not comprehension" - a great turn of phrase from Andrea, it should be the buzz phrase of anyone meeting with two or more elders.
We also need to remember that someone not agreeing with us is not a personal attack. We need to learn the art of debating because as Witnesses it's something we never do.
And Susan is happy we are now making our voices heard and whilst it's true that not all of us like the "Hall crashes" or "cart crashers", some of them have been incredibly powerful. The whole history of the JW religion began with "Picketing",picketing the churches "Religion is a snare and a racket"! Now the tables are turned and we picket them!!
Let's keep being different to each other...we're allowed to disagree and different styles of "activism"( hate that word) will awaken different people, or even people in different cults as Leah Rimmini has demonstrated. Long live exjw disunity! I've put this post in friends, Coz I'm sure that's where it belongs.
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Latest JW.org Statistics Are Confusing & Lack Context
by steve2 inearlier this week a new post on this forum announced that the 2017 worldwide annual service report was available on jw.org.
wow - that's earlier than the statistics for the 2016 service year which appeared in the 2017 yearbook last january!
good effort, jw organization!
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Diogenesister
Are they implying the 'Ministers who teach the bible' reported number is the number of JWs in that country?
I was also wondering, Incognito, if this includes unbaptised publishers including young children , as total jw's in a particular country?
Also, are women who cannot be " ministerial servants" now " ministers"? And can they now officially " teach"?
Maybe someone can explain? Also ( my pet peeve) why *Pheobe, of Romans 16.1, is called a " Deacon"
A notable woman in the church of Cenchreae, she was trusted by Paul to deliver his letter to the Romans. ... "I commend to you our sister Phoebe, a deacon of the church in Cenchreae"
Deacon, of course, is a ministerial serpent. But she was doing here the job of a circuit overseer..
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Latest JW.org Statistics Are Confusing & Lack Context
by steve2 inearlier this week a new post on this forum announced that the 2017 worldwide annual service report was available on jw.org.
wow - that's earlier than the statistics for the 2016 service year which appeared in the 2017 yearbook last january!
good effort, jw organization!
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Diogenesister
there were 500 more partakers counted in 2017 which brings the Memorial Sippers and Nibblers to well over 18,500.
The Watchtower claims these increases are crazy or confused new converts. But there is another possibility whose numbers, I believe, will only grow :
Protest partakers ; PiMO 's, trapped by family, who are believers and realize the NT offers the hope for all Christians, not just a privileged few.
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Charging $150 To Tell Your Stories
by Bangalore inhttps://www.indiegogo.com/projects/how-to-escape-from-jehovah-s-witnesses-religion#/.
for $150: collaboration with the backer so that their story of successfully escaping an abusive belief system (300 words max) features along with others in the final pages of how to escape from jehovah's witnesses.
the text will be written by the author but will include a minimum of one quote worded by the backer.
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whoops sorry. Thought so. Sometimes I need to a bit more!