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  Billions die because fruit was eaten. Please think about this.

  by pleaseresearch in

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  counties once at war with one another can forgive and move on.

  even horrible murderers who killed the family members of someone can be forgiven for the act that they did.. but god, no no no.

  no such thing can happen.

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  They say it's not about fruit but really about sovereignty.

  But the snake only asked if it was true you would die if you ate ( drives me MAD the way duds are obsessed about the way the snake asked it - " *is it so*" etc etc - who bloody cares it means the same thing!!)

  And then snakey said your eyes will be opened, "like God knowing good and bad" ,but *angels* knew good from bad and it didn't challenge his sovereignty, apparently .....and we do know good from bad. Just HOW does that story challenge God's sovereignty...I don't get it!
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  Do JWs Still Believe That Everything Pictures The “Anointed”?

  by minimus in

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  it seemed like the society taught that somehow everyone and everything pictured the anointed class.

  is that still the case?

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  I was just discussing this somewhere else. Watchtower has backed themselves into a corner.

  A lot of scriptures don't make sense within their doctrine of not going to heaven, like 1 corinthians 15.50 " flesh cannot inherit God's kingdom, nor does corruption inherit incorruption" , unless everything in the NT basically refers to the 144000.

  So slowly slowly, as people have realised that and pointed these scriptures out, Watchtower has had to say more and more of it only apply to the 144,000!!
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  Aliens

  by Jayk in

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  i thought i was weird that i believe in aliens.

  until i remembered that people believe there is a god..

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  Ever Appy Even For me, the statistical Probability of aliens are more convincing than accepting a Belief in any God.

  You said it for me evers
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  Encounter with a long time elder. (Jehovah's happy people)

  by freddo in

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  so i'm at work and go to my vehicle parked outside the empty property i'm working at and an elderly man comes out of next door and we recognise each other from when we were elders in the same circuit.

  he is early 80's in age, a jw since the 1960's and so the next generation in age up from me.. he's an outwardly jolly sort and asks how i am etc.

  (knows i'm not an elder but thinks i'm pimi) and asks if i want a cup of tea so i go in and sit in his kitchen for my lunchbreak and have a chat.. i have a little fish around and ask about how jw's in his hall are.

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  Wozza You must have had it rough jp.

  His passion comes from the fact he cares.
  
  

  
  
  
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  Encounter with a long time elder. (Jehovah's happy people)

  by freddo in

  1. jw
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  so i'm at work and go to my vehicle parked outside the empty property i'm working at and an elderly man comes out of next door and we recognise each other from when we were elders in the same circuit.

  he is early 80's in age, a jw since the 1960's and so the next generation in age up from me.. he's an outwardly jolly sort and asks how i am etc.

  (knows i'm not an elder but thinks i'm pimi) and asks if i want a cup of tea so i go in and sit in his kitchen for my lunchbreak and have a chat.. i have a little fish around and ask about how jw's in his hall are.

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  Him Laughing) I dunno - when you were a kid you had to be evacuated from (CITY) because of the German bombing. My Aunt lost her job when her department store got flattened!

  Him: That's true! You do make me smile Freddo!

  Bless him, you reminded him of his youth, carefree days ( before he became a dub. Before he grew old, too)

  Him tells me how it's going - the son - walking stick heavily overweight - depressed not holding down a job. Daughter - Depressed - her husband not working has M.E.

  This breaks my heart. Someone should do a study on it, it's GOT to be the religion, it takes away your drive, the authentic you.
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  Will Artificial Intellegence Make The Human Race Extinct?

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

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  i think it is inevitable.

  i don't worry about it but it just seems that the human race is going down a road that they can't make a turn off.. they are probing/discovering how the human mind works and produces intelligence down to the individual molecule.

  now with the invention of the super quantum computer soon we will be able to build even better artificial intelligence greater than our own, so it will be easily able to out smart us because will we be a bunch of dumb apes first discovering how to make fire in it's eyes.. it will have it's own different agendas than us humans.

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  Absolutely. If only because they will have the capacity to spend the long years alive required for deep space travel.

  One day we, or descendents something like us, will have to leave this beautiful planet of ours. To do that will require a lot of research, and the ability to work in environments present humans would never survive - like the extreme cold of space. For example if we have to build some kind of biosphere, either on another planet or orbiting one. The strength and resistance to radiation, for example, would make AI's ideal to carry out this type of project.

  They will come. We need them too much.
  
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  Apostate Monthly: We totally have to do this. Created by Darkspilver

  by Diogenesister in

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  If your cat catches a mouse, . . .

  by compound complex in

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  take it away, bleed it, give it back.. reading about the gingerbread man reminded me of this:.

  how irrational the society could be was experienced by the sister-in-law of ex-bethelite william (bill) cetnar when .... at the suggestion of her veterinarian, she had a blood transfusion given to her poodle to prolong its life.

  she couldn't believe bill [cetnar]when he told her that the society would say she had violated god's law.

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  • Amelia Ashtongo

    I used to be a veterinary nurse before I became a JW and an elder told me I would have to account to God for all the animals I helped put to sleep. That preyed on my mind the whole time I was in.

    So I presume this elder was a vegetarian? Didn't think so...

    Sometimes I really do think jws are like Winnie-the-pooh who lamented he was "really a bear of little brain"
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  Srinking Jehovah To Total Insignificance

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

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  so jehovah the bronze age deity god of the nation of bc israel.

  next he's the god of the whole world even outer space,, as man's understanding of the earth increases past the bronze age so does jehovah's greatness.

  the watchtower interpretation of scripture presupposes what they know about the world today or perhaps only what their thick brains know about the world today,, because they have this evil fixation about science and higher education being a tool of the devil to draw people away from the real truth found in the bible, their knowledge is very limited and back to the 1800s.. much to the chagrin of the watchtower corporation jehovah's godship has been significantly reduced due to what science can now tell about a probable multiverse.

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  Mind. Blown!

  I have a big smile on my face at the thought of all these alternate realities...so maybe in one I became the cartoonist or choreographer I should have been!
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  Chapter 52 the final chapter of "Newboy 50 Years a Watchtower Slave"

  by new boy in

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  chapter 52. what if albert was right?.

  i like what w.c. fields said, when they asked him what he believed in.

  “i believe in a lot of things.

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  Always thought the only religious thinking that lines up with science in any way is Buddhism....the cycle of life is reincarnation by any other name. Wouldnt it be wonderful to Write and direct an infinite variety of life stories to live? Now that would be pretty near to paradise for me!