Gorby I'm going to check out the proclaimed book on JWLeaks my friend. Bravo!
Diogenesister
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The day G. presented a talk about the tricks of Rutherford
by Gorbatchov intoday i rememberd the evening i presented a talk at the kh school from the proclamers book.
it was about the conflicts of rutherford.
i decided to speak the truth about the ugly tricks of this president.
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The day G. presented a talk about the tricks of Rutherford
by Gorbatchov intoday i rememberd the evening i presented a talk at the kh school from the proclamers book.
it was about the conflicts of rutherford.
i decided to speak the truth about the ugly tricks of this president.
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Diogenesister
Ding....I see what you did there ! 😉👍
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How old is old?
by joey jojo inhaving a conversation with a pimi elder and i asked him how he deals with the fact that he never expected to get old.
i get the feeling that some dubs still have the original generation explanation hard-wired, even though they claim to accept the new version.
so my question is, how old do you have to be to be considered old?
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Diogenesister
it is a puzzle why the Bible should say 70 or 80 years for the human lifespan. Perhaps the compilers of the Psalms were looking at the optimistic age for death in the text they had-- and it reminded them of Moses long life-- so they attributed Psalm 90 to him? Otherwise they must have just made up the ages to sound impressive. However the Bible's claims in Psalm 90 regarding human longevity, is not backed up by the unremarkable archaeological finds of ancient Canaan.
I think the average and median ages would be skewed by high infant mortality rates, and women dying in childbirth. If you take war, famine and uncommon situations like the plague of 1400’s out of the statistics the ages were probably pretty similar to today.I’ve heard that the ages of hunter gatherers were pretty high. Remember our two biggest killers - heart disease, diabetes and many types cancer predicated on diet and smoke etc would have been virtually unknown. I know cancer existed ( dinosaurs had cancer) and I expect it’s bred into us in terms of mutation driving evolution. But many types of cancer are related to modern lifestyles.
We started getting sick when we became sedentary farmers, living in close proximity with each other and, most importantly, our animals.
If you think about some of the worst recent epidemics they began as cross species diseases(there’s a word for it, slips my mind but It probably begins with Xeno or zoo )
We are healthier taking lots and lots of physical exercise (running!)and not eating too much. I have a belief one veggie meal a day and meat maximum once a week keeps you healthy. Green leafy veg, whole food etc
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How old is old?
by joey jojo inhaving a conversation with a pimi elder and i asked him how he deals with the fact that he never expected to get old.
i get the feeling that some dubs still have the original generation explanation hard-wired, even though they claim to accept the new version.
so my question is, how old do you have to be to be considered old?
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Diogenesister
Scruff Im 30 and feel old!
Im also condidered an old father medically speaking.
Not quite. I think the age for a geriatric mother (Yes, that is the term or at least was) is 35. I don't think there is any such *medical* concept for a father but I do know the average age for parenthood is getting older every year. The area I live in the average parent is mid thirties for first child.
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Grace Gough ( RIP ) left the JW cult in her 70s and went on to help 1000s to escape the cult
by Not_Culty inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj7ilnoxvu4.
she helped me.
sent me my first copy of crisis of conscience (free) grace has been featured on many talk shows, including sally jesse raphael, raising awareness of support for cult abuse survivors.
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Diogenesister
She definitely lives on in her granddaughter ~ they are so alike.
Northern seal Have you tried a DM to mouthy granddaughter about the tapes? They would be a fascinating historical record for an exjw historian.
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Christmas Trees.
by Lost in the fog inwe are all very familiar with the fact that jws do not celebrate xmas.
we probably used the same speech as we had been told from the platform that since xmas had its roots in paganism everything associated with it was a big no-no.
xmas trees, definitely a no-no!
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Diogenesister
Very interesting Lost in the Fog I tend to think that practical things emerged in early man before ceremonial etc and it was likely the health benefits of pine were was the real reason the people brought them into the house in the winter. They were obsessed with ‘miasma’ and bad air so if people had coughs colds and illness they burnt pine needles to purify the air. It’s also handy to have a ready supply of fire wood INSIDE the house in case of heavy snowfall, storms etc or illness.
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Plan for the future - like the Governing Body
by The Fall Guy inlatest dubtown reality check.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csxrdm-mw_u.
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Diogenesister
That was beautiful. I love it.
If you’re reading this Kevin....you’re wonderful xxx
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Melbourne Convention Protest
by jonahstourguide inhi all.. i didn't want to post this in private because i want all to see what i saw.. the protest at the melbourne convention went superbly in my opinion.
the protesters and their banners were more than eloquent and succinct.
you could feel the emotion they all conveyed.
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Diogenesister
Oh my word O’Brien has aged since the A.R.C. Wow that has put him under stress.
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Prince Andrew & Jeffrey Epstein, WTF
by Simon inin fact, several "wtf"s, not least - why were you visiting a convicted pedophile after his release from prison, never-mind having any contact with him in the first place when his preoclivities seemed to be an open secret.. and the best he can some up with is "i don't remember"?
you don't remember?
there's a fucking photo of you with one of the victims and accessories to the crimes you dumb fuck!.
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Diogenesister
It’s not yet certain if he will be cut off from the public purse or if his mum will be providing him with an allowance.
Prince Andrew isn’t paid from the public purse, his mother gives him the money. It’s called the Civil List and It all changed some years ago when people become outraged that a whole string of hangers on were being paid plus the Queen wasn’t paying tax. Now I think it’s only those in direct line to the throne do or will in the future get cash.( Duke of York the exception?)
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Melbourne Convention Protest
by jonahstourguide inhi all.. i didn't want to post this in private because i want all to see what i saw.. the protest at the melbourne convention went superbly in my opinion.
the protesters and their banners were more than eloquent and succinct.
you could feel the emotion they all conveyed.
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Diogenesister
Oh boy get a Load of this ridiculousness.
They're only putting on a show because GB are there. They wouldn't give a monkeys if it was Bob from the local congregation.
No wonder the GB believe their own bullshit, they're surrounded by sycophants!