Posts by Diogenesister

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P. Ms Letter to non subscibers to Redress Scheme

by jonahstourguide in

spotted this article this morning.

i will try to post a link.. jtg.. australia.. institutions refusing to join the national redress scheme are "doubling down" on the crime of child sexual abuse, prime minister scott morrison says.. mr morrison and social services minister anne ruston have warned institutions they may lose funding and tax concessions if they fail to sign up by tuesday's deadline and will be named and shamed.. "all institutions are doing in not joining is doubling down on the crime and doubling down on the hurt," they said in a letter to 25 institutions.. "we consider it to be reprehensible that you have failed to sign up to the scheme.".

the jehovah's witnesses is among the organisations that has refused to sign up, arguing it does not have the institutional settings of other faith-based institutions that the redress scheme is designed to cover.. senator ruston is set to name the non-participating institutions on wednesday, when she will announce what action the federal government will take against them.. "we urge you to join the scheme not because of concerns about being identified, but because it is the right thing to do," the minister and mr morrison said.. "it is the right thing to do by survivors and their families and it is what every, decent, honest, australian demands.".

Diogenesister

I doubt Jehovah’s witnesses have ever been in receipt of commonwealth funding :( so that’s not going to phase them.

I also note they got in that little piece about there being “less than 10 applicants” in their response, so any Jehovah’s witnesses or bible studies who take the time to read the press will dismiss those few applicants as “bitter apostates” or mentally ill. I only wish the govt, in naming and shaming Watchtower, had mentioned the 1006 cases unearthed by the C.A.R.C. That may have shaken up anyone reading the govt’s statement.

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P. Ms Letter to non subscibers to Redress Scheme

by jonahstourguide in

spotted this article this morning.

i will try to post a link.. jtg.. australia.. institutions refusing to join the national redress scheme are "doubling down" on the crime of child sexual abuse, prime minister scott morrison says.. mr morrison and social services minister anne ruston have warned institutions they may lose funding and tax concessions if they fail to sign up by tuesday's deadline and will be named and shamed.. "all institutions are doing in not joining is doubling down on the crime and doubling down on the hurt," they said in a letter to 25 institutions.. "we consider it to be reprehensible that you have failed to sign up to the scheme.".

the jehovah's witnesses is among the organisations that has refused to sign up, arguing it does not have the institutional settings of other faith-based institutions that the redress scheme is designed to cover.. senator ruston is set to name the non-participating institutions on wednesday, when she will announce what action the federal government will take against them.. "we urge you to join the scheme not because of concerns about being identified, but because it is the right thing to do," the minister and mr morrison said.. "it is the right thing to do by survivors and their families and it is what every, decent, honest, australian demands.".

Diogenesister

Even when guilt is established, they still don’t report to the police. Hence, this has nothing to do with the 2 witness rule. Its all about them not wanting to let the authorities in what they perceive as being “their business”.

Yes, of course there’s an element of that.

But as in everything I think the main reason is to protect their image - not to the police, the public or judiciary - but to Jehovah’s witnesses themselves. Above everything else they don’t want Jehovah’s witnesses to see A. there are criminals among them and B. that consequently Jehovah’s witnesses are just like any other religion and just like any other group of people.

Loss of face to ordinary Jehovah’s witnesses is more important to them even than money, because essentially “The Brand” is money in the bank to them.

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IT experts

by Youngaposthate in

good day former jdubs, i'm a new member, particularly looking for it experts whome can verify if the jw apps track its members and record audio, particularly the khonf app.

if you download app on google play store and click the headphones, a pop up requiring user to click pop up to enable audio recording is displayed.

i'm minorly aware of the evolution of tech and tracking scandals.

Diogenesister

E reverse engineering and commentary, feel free to do it and post the code on GitHub, as long as you don’t include the binary, it should be fine.

can someone explain this in English please? Homeschooling and my sons doing computer science so I’m trying to stay ahead of the game!! What is the young person aiming to do please?

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Well Englanders, you have been warned!

by BoogerMan in

naughty, naughty little children - going to beaches on a sunny day.. "health secretary matt hancock has "made clear we do have the powers to go back in and act"".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53190209.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr5apyxku-u.

Diogenesister

Some of the posts on this thread are unbelievable in their stupidity.

I personally wish my govt would come down harder on these idiots.

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John 5:28,29.

by Lost in the fog in

we used to use this scripture to show that there was going to be a future resurrection.

but recently i got to thinking about it.

if the apostle paul was right in saying that the righteous on death would be changed in the twinkling of an eye from earthly life to heavenly glory why would there be a future resurrection needed for the righteous?

Diogenesister

Hands up everyone who thinks some scribe added "and there was no more sea" at the end of Revelation 21:1😂😂

Just 'Coz it it occurred to him

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I’m Seeing Some Trump Fatigue Out There

by minimus in

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friends

i’ve heard from a few trump voters that they are getting tired of the whole trump thing.

one person yesterday said he lies.

another person said she hears from her clients in her business that the constant drama and push back from all sides against trump is fatiguing.. i remind people that before this worldwide pandemic, we had the best numbers in jobs.

Diogenesister

Iwant2leave

It’s true Melania is attractive, but she also is a tr_mp.”

I take it you meant that Melania is a Trump, as in Mrs. Trump, of course.

one thing I admire Trump for is that he didn’t have the hypocrisy of ooogling Melania, yet at the same time pretending to be too moral to marry a lady such as her. He put his money where his mouth (probably) is!!!!🤣🤣🤣😉

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I’m Seeing Some Trump Fatigue Out There

by minimus in

jw
friends

i’ve heard from a few trump voters that they are getting tired of the whole trump thing.

one person yesterday said he lies.

another person said she hears from her clients in her business that the constant drama and push back from all sides against trump is fatiguing.. i remind people that before this worldwide pandemic, we had the best numbers in jobs.

Diogenesister

Can nobody, in a country of over 200 million citizens, come up with a better idea than

a dementia sufferer who will say anything to get elected

an narcissist that says the same meaningless and often dishonest platitudes over and over to get elected

a multimillionaire talk show host, probably put forward for her colour and little else

ditto an ex presidents wife, currently in the business of cashing in

Yet another ex president’s wife....who comes across as venal, desperate and quite frankly furious that the worse Clinton for the job was chosen first time around due to institutional sexism in politics

and Bernie...... who has integrity, but is probably not well enough

Is the electoral system in America so broken that the candidates are so poor?!

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A question about the contemporary generation teaching following a conversation with a JW apologist

by Giles Gray in

i would like to ask the ex-jws on this site to put their ‘apologists hat’ back on for a moment, so that i can go through the overlapping generation teaching in an attempt to make sense of it.

i apologise if these points have already been addressed on this site.a quick background for the reason for my request… having never confronted a jw apologist on the topic, i recently engaged with a jw regarding the official understanding of a ‘generation’ and unfortunately he didn’t have an answer to the points i was making.

i was left a little confused as to what the official jw response would/should be.so i was hoping that my thoughts below might be considered from an apologist’s perspective.the point in question relates to this section of the watchtower article below from 2008, as well as the jw.org video explanation of the overlapping generation:---:w08 2/15[box on page 25] can we calculate the length of “this generation”?the word “generation” usually refers to people of various ages whose lives overlap during a particular time period or event.

Diogenesister

Sometime in the future, when the G.B. see it is time, they will close the gates or flee to an Island with suitcases of cash and say the Great Tribulation has started

Guarantee they’ll have enough in offshore accounts to have to do that OTWO. Grenada here we come!!

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A question about the contemporary generation teaching following a conversation with a JW apologist

by Giles Gray in

i would like to ask the ex-jws on this site to put their ‘apologists hat’ back on for a moment, so that i can go through the overlapping generation teaching in an attempt to make sense of it.

i apologise if these points have already been addressed on this site.a quick background for the reason for my request… having never confronted a jw apologist on the topic, i recently engaged with a jw regarding the official understanding of a ‘generation’ and unfortunately he didn’t have an answer to the points i was making.

i was left a little confused as to what the official jw response would/should be.so i was hoping that my thoughts below might be considered from an apologist’s perspective.the point in question relates to this section of the watchtower article below from 2008, as well as the jw.org video explanation of the overlapping generation:---:w08 2/15[box on page 25] can we calculate the length of “this generation”?the word “generation” usually refers to people of various ages whose lives overlap during a particular time period or event.

Diogenesister

SBF (They could) argue that this is not a central JW doctrine.

Well they certainly couldn’t argue that. Without 1914 the governing body have no authority.

Watchtowers quoted drivel really doesn’t apply because the exodus “generation” referred to is obviously the typical familial generation - in other words that generation were all the children of one man, Jacob, regardless of their ages or when they were born or died.

good rebuttal by the way OP

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Do You Believe Polls Saying Trump Will Lose To Biden?

by minimus in

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friends

a new fox poll says biden is up by 12 percentage points.

of course, most other polls say trump will be trounced this time around.. do you think the polls might be right this time?

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Diogenesister

The cult of personality and the weighting, within political systems, In favor of wealth is a problem the world over.

But do Americans on the board think these factors are a particular problem in the USA - both conspiring to produce sub standard candidates and handicapping a talented and highly educated nation??

What say you?