That's very interesting Pistol Pete, though somewhat depressing!!
....kinda sounds like they could morph into another version of themselves, in order to donate to themselves, and so on ad infinitum!!😲😋
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A Salute to Petra/Atlantis
by Slidin Fast inwhilst i have never quite understood whether petra and atlantis are one or multiple entities i recognise the value of their work and web of contacts.
i think it is fair to say that no-one has consistently contributed more solid gold intelligence to this site.
no one has reliably passed on more bomb shells and solid news as well as day to day minutiae.
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Is There (Was There Ever) an Anglo American Dual World Power?
by BluesBrother inif you live in the u s a or the united kingdom, this is how the wt society views your government, your nation :-.
yes, as an ugly, evil terrifying beast !
this is based on the book of revelation chapter 13 , quoted as follows in the revelation climax book.
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I think they came up with the idea shortly after ww2 when the US and Britain were on the same side
Very likely Hoser. Watchtower is so parochial...only sees its immediate surroundings, as such. As another poster commented, very American/western-centric. Incapable of seeing outside its bubble.
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Is There (Was There Ever) an Anglo American Dual World Power?
by BluesBrother inif you live in the u s a or the united kingdom, this is how the wt society views your government, your nation :-.
yes, as an ugly, evil terrifying beast !
this is based on the book of revelation chapter 13 , quoted as follows in the revelation climax book.
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My favourite brand of glasses are called "Anglo-American" lol
It's a word, it's not an Empire...not even close. We had an Empire once. I think America...are they Apostates from the Empire??😜
Anyway, just an aside, Watchtower has always referred to the feet as being made of clay & iron, am I right? Lloyd Evens, in a recent video, said that in the nineties watchtower changed or flip flopped its ideas, saying the toes were many small political entities, de-colonized & derived from earlier empires. But I think they've always said this? Is that true? Or do I mis remember? However the feet have always been made of clay and iron - always represented the Anglo American empire.
This never changed, did it? Or am I going nuts?
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If you leave the WT and don’t get vaccinated, you will still have the virus and keep getting sick
by pistolpete inso the past couple of years, i’ve read several stories about jws who left the organization at an early age because they knew something wasn’t right------but they never bothered to research the religion.
there was this feeling that the watchtower was not god’s only channel.
so they left at an early age.
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Pistolpete I couldn't agree more. That very thing could have happened to my kids if it weren't for the ARC, Ray Franz and this site.
I left the religions clutches when I got together with and married my husband. However although I had major problems with the blood doctrine I had begun to talk to my kids about "the truth".The blood doctrine was the major issue for me and truth be told it was only because I didn't want to be a hypocrite and rely on the state to protect my children if they needed lifesaving blood that I didn't go back. You see I'd seen witness parents show relief when the doctors took the burden of administering blood from them. They knew in the UK their children would not be allowed to die. So it was easy for them, not so in other countries. I thought it was unfair some parents should have that burden when I knew I didn't have to worry about it as a UK witness. I didn't agree with it and was not prepared to just keep quiet knowing I was "ok Jack". I myself was fully prepared to refuse it but I knew I would never be able to refuse it for my kids. So I could not in fairness be a witness. However if it wasn't for that I would have indoctrinated the fear of Armageddon into them.
Leaving isn't enough, you have to do the research.
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2020-Articles Of Association--Bylaws--Notice Of Special Meeting! (as of 2020-11-25)
by Atlantis in2020--articles of association and bylaws--3 pages.. .
2020--notice of special meeting in december--8 pages.
if you are a jw read carefully before you sign.. .
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Dear God Marc O Donnell is a complete ass on that thread, pompous as hell.
Honestly Petra he's not worth bothering with.
This just suits him fine. Does it seem some folks don't like it when others have access to info, too?
Writing his little blog has gone to his head, he thinks he's got the inside scoop on everything & will deign to let us know when and if. Infuriating.....
God help me I never say this as it usually means the arguments lost when you do...but...he really is acting all "secret squirrel" just like some jumped up elder "we have this info, a much bigger scandal, not like those silly papers, but we can't tell you at this time." Sod off!!!
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Watchtower to be stripped of Charitable status
by Diogenesister inaustralian senator anna rushton has said that all orgs who "don't take reasonable steps to join the redress scheme" will be stripped of their charitable status come feburary 2021.. https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/k1pur7/the_jehovahs_witnesses_will_be_stripped_of_their/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share.
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Australian Senator Anna Rushton has said that all orgs who "don't take reasonable steps to join the redress scheme" will be stripped of their charitable status come Feburary 2021.
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/k1pur7/the_jehovahs_witnesses_will_be_stripped_of_their/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
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A Salute to Petra/Atlantis
by Slidin Fast inwhilst i have never quite understood whether petra and atlantis are one or multiple entities i recognise the value of their work and web of contacts.
i think it is fair to say that no-one has consistently contributed more solid gold intelligence to this site.
no one has reliably passed on more bomb shells and solid news as well as day to day minutiae.
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What the hell is going on?????
My blood pressure just hit the roof when I saw that post!
Pleeeeeeese I beg of you Atlantis and Petra DONT pay Marc any mind he's not the brightest spark and says some pretty lame things (Cedars often has to reign him in, in a nice way).
I'm begging you both. Please.
I remember when Covert fade was trully obnoxious to BCG the abuse survivor from The Australian Royal Commission ....what is it with the arrogance of these guys??? They get too big for their boots!!
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Who's he kidding!?
by Lost in the fog ini had to read this paragraph twice in case i'd misread it the first time.
who is he trying to kid!?
mr gomez says, "there's very little rules, if any, most of our conduct is governed by principles, and there's a lot of room for us to make personal choices.
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Mynameislame
Or anyone else...
So....this "flair" thing that is on the film clip you posted, they have it on Reddit, too. My flair, for instance, is "runaway slave". I wondered where the term came from.
So it's American? And it means badges?
Can anyone fill me in as to its origin???
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How Many Prayed For Our Poor Mexican Brothers to the South ?
by Sea Breeze inprior to 1990 - as witnesses, we were frequently told about our poor mexican brothers who weren't "allowed" to use any literature out in field service, and how they weren't allowed to sing songs or use the bible at meetings.
they had to use code language like "the symbol" instead of baptism.
oh the persecution!
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If this doesn’t prove it’s all about the money for Watchtower, I don’t know what does. It proves their no. 1 priority is the financial health of the Pennsylvania Corporation.
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You normally need some "crime" to have occurred to sue someone, some violation of a law or standard. What exactly do you believe they have done to you directly? I think you'll find they haven't done anything, but people you know have
Yes the horrible truth is they generally don’t disfellowship people for talking to disfellowshipped family, especially if you’re fairly discreet about it. It’s much more subtle and nefarious than that.
For sure they’ve got more hardline about it recently, portraying good JWs in video and print as shunning family. But in most cases, the worse that would happen is removal of the dubious privilege of being an elder, servant or possibly pioneer. All depending on their local need for servants etc and the popularity of the JW who continues a relationship with DF family.
If push came to shove and they were at risk of loosing lots of lawsuits, I’m sure they could dig up plenty of dubs who continue to see their DF kids etc.