Posts by Diogenesister

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Watch this, and don’t shoot the messenger...

by DATA-DOG in

hopefully i’m doing this right and it will display for you.

this is an interview with michael yeadon, former vice president and chief science officer of pfizer.

of course he has been attacked, slandered, shunned, ect, and this will never be allowed on social media, but he has taken the time to appear in an unpaid interview.

Diogenesister

Ok I'll agree the main and most tragic area of spread was care homes.

The government should have seen it coming and it's a national disgrace they didn't put everything they could into protecting the elderly with LIVE IN volunteers until a vaccine became available.

I'm a nurse and, having had the disease which was like absolutely nothing I have ever experienced before in particular the taste and smell aspect and the fact that all my hair has fallen out , I am absolutely convinced that it is a man made virus.

We caught the virus the minute my kids went back to school in between lockdowns. The schools were rife with it. It was crazy to open them because education is the one thing that can wait!! So the kids do their exams a year later...probably a good thing and no businesses will go bust because of it. It will also keep them out of the workforce for longer, only a good thing with so few jobs available.

Having said that my husband and I were very ill for a week but otherwise fine. We know that there have been tragic deaths in the UK of many frontline workers from GPs to bus drivers, mostly in their 49s and 50s.

There have also been some high profile tragedies. So this is not a myth. This disease was a threat to the elderly and some sadly predisposed.

Just because he is a scientist doesn't mean he can't have some odd views. And yes, as in ALL PROFESSIONS as I have previously said, there are corrupt people, sociopaths, loonies...the lot But I genuinely believe the government wanted to protect lives, that was their ultimate aim.

Look at Israel and their vaccine programme. They value their people....especially the elderly, the living recepticals of their Holocaust memories. They would never mess with the lives of their fellow citizens.

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Are Watchtower library CD's of any use.

by still wondering in

i have 8 watchtower library cd's from 1997 to 2009 and barbara anderson's "secrets of paedophilia" cd which i no longer require.

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if anyone wants them in the uk please let me know and i will send them for free rather than dump them..

Diogenesister

I’m interested and in the UK. I think “Avoid” will try and ensure it’s not edited but they’ve had problems being hounded by watchtower in the past so I think we all need to preserve as many hard copies as possible.

Can I send you my address?. You can pay pal me for for postage costs.

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Why did Jehovah Kill all the animals in the flood? What purpose did it serve??

by pistolpete in

some of my jw family that is waking up posed that question to my jw family that is still hanging on to jw belief.. the stepbrother that posed that question told me;.

"in all these years of being a jw, i actually never gave it much thought as to why jehovah had to kill millions of innocent animals that had nothing to do with mankind becoming evil.".

i keep picturing in my mind, all the baby puppies and kitties that were destroyed by jehovah.

Diogenesister

Great evidence indicates that animals have been suffering for millions of years - millions of years before man appeared on earth. So, JWs can't say that animal suffering started due to man's rebellion in the Garden of Eden.

Yes they've found fossils of dinosaurs with cancer.

So sorry about your Racoons. They have the most gorgeous little hands. I'd love to meet one, we don't have them here.

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Why did Jehovah Kill all the animals in the flood? What purpose did it serve??

by pistolpete in

some of my jw family that is waking up posed that question to my jw family that is still hanging on to jw belief.. the stepbrother that posed that question told me;.

"in all these years of being a jw, i actually never gave it much thought as to why jehovah had to kill millions of innocent animals that had nothing to do with mankind becoming evil.".

i keep picturing in my mind, all the baby puppies and kitties that were destroyed by jehovah.

Diogenesister

Love that picture P.Pete :))

They just dismiss animals as lesser lifeforms that don't really matter. The most egregious passage in the Bible is the one in Genesis that says man should have Dominion over the animals, birds and fishes. It's allowed for such harm.

But if the definition of a "person" is the capacity to suffer, practically all animals - and certainly vertebrates , no wait what about octopi? Nevermind make that all animals, are "persons".

JWs aren't much different from many humans in that sense. As a veggie I think It's the one true "ISM" there really is, species-ism.

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An Expert Explains the Beginning of Christianity with Dr Richard Carrier

by Rocketman123 in

here is an interesting discussion about how christianity probably began.

hierarchical political interest may have been involved.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=civ8gscbo_g.

Diogenesister

Both Early Christianity and Early Rabbinic Judaism were far less orthodox and less theologically homogeneous than they are today.

Yup. If only those that fight over religion would care to investigate they would find out they came from many belief systems, not one.

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Disassociated for smoking at 15 years old then later after years of shinning befriended again.

by TjHunt in

after my 4 and 6 year old sisters and i (5) were molested and covered up by elders, at 15 i'm disassociated for smoking.

then years later after attending a passover with family members, i'm not suddenly disassociated anymore and attempted befriending begins.

wow.

Diogenesister

Vienne you are a judgemental ass. It's not particularly wrong for someone who left at 15.

Plenty of kids sit in that hall and words just go in one ear and out the other. They often barely remember a thing about doctrine.

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Transparency Questions

by Vanderhoven7 in

here are some questions to ask witnesses.

how would you alter or improve or add to them?.

transparency questions.

Diogenesister

What if these same Non-JWs die a few years before Armageddon...might they get a resurrection?
Do you think its fair that God would eternally destroy people simply based on the timing of their death?

@Nitty Gritty Of course not...

What if this scenario was happening during Armageddon? A building had collapsed on someone you were giving comfort to, say?As you correctly pointed out @Nitty Gritty, this is one of the major flaws in Watchtower theology. Had this scenario played out the day before Armageddon Witnesses would be able to answer that yes they may be resurrected as you have above.

Do you believe Jehovah will destroy billions of people at Armageddon?

Possibly, since the Bible speaks of only a minority being on the road to life.

Again, good answer @Nitty Gritty. This is a scripture many other Christians love to quote from the Bible so It’s rather hypocritical for other Christians to condemn JWs for claiming many will die at Armageddon.

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Belgian Civil Rights Attorney's comments on the Ghent decision

by vienne in

this and several other articles are here: https://bitterwinter.org/excommunication-looking-for-a-balance-of-interests-between-opposite-freedoms/.

Diogenesister

I think we're over rating the ethics of journalists.

Yes I worded that poorly.

What I mean to say is, even my rudimentary undergraduate studies permit me to visualise what a legal & philosophical challenge to the Ghent judgement would look like. Something you've previously pointed out absolutely could be made. Instead this tends to repeat the standard JW formula.

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Single Pretty Girls that are JWs, have so much potential, but sadly........

by pistolpete in

the pandemic has made the situation worse for single young jw girls.. i'm hearing tons of sad stories of single jw girls who are going, or have gone into deep depression.

with many having thoughts of committing suicide and hoping for a better life in the new order.. the pandemic has made it almost impossible for young jw girls to find a suitable marriage mate.

especially since the single jw boys-men want young, gorgeous, thin, virgins, who look like models and summit to the headship arrangement.

Diogenesister

You boys sure they weren't simply gay?

Copy that Vidiot

You know, I'm going to say things must have gotten a lot worse over the last 10 or so years. I definitely saw some of the stuff others have mentioned, but I also knew some really nice JW guy's who ended up marrying in their twenties and thirties to girls of similar age. I know typically kids marry late teens early twenties, but there are some nice ones who marry later.

My best JW friend is a real career girl who has a MSc. She married a really nice guy (who rides a bike, too ;) ) and they were both in their 30s when they married. She is very pretty & slim, tho', too!

Pete......🤣😂 PIMP👏👏

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Belgian Civil Rights Attorney's comments on the Ghent decision

by vienne in

this and several other articles are here: https://bitterwinter.org/excommunication-looking-for-a-balance-of-interests-between-opposite-freedoms/.

Diogenesister

I only had to get as far as the insinuation that JWs are baptised as fully informed adults, because they don't practice ",infant baptism", to know he's a Jehovah's witness.

No journalist would be so sly as to bring up that half truth as an excuse for shunning. Since a rudimentary investigation into the cult would demonstrate young children routinely get baptised and in fact the GB encourage it.