Posts by Diogenesister

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Why haven't they re-started the 'cart witnessing'?

by eyeslice in

we are nearly 18 months into this pandemic and lot has been learned and our behaviour modified to make things safer for us, e.g.

the wearing of face masks and social distancing.. many countries such as australia, new zealand, the uk and usa either have things under control or have vaccinated a large portion of the population.

therefore, given the very passive nature of the 'cart witnessing', i can't see why this hasn't be re-started.

Diogenesister

I think cart work will come back but I do wonder if this is their cue to go into full on "isolationist" cult mode. It's the ideal time to smuggle in dropping the door to door work under the radar.

Ok We already know they're a cult but at least they have some, albeit nominal, contact with the public around their religion, with the potential for meaningful discussion.

That's where the danger lies for the GB as many people are now aware of watchtower's failings

E.g. a couple years ago a young-ish woman knocked at my door and I was able to tell her about the UN scandal. She was shocked. She had literally no idea.

This isn't so likely to happen with cart work because people rarely approach. So it's ideal for watchtower, because it gives the appearance of preaching without risking JWs having to answer some tough questions or being given the facts.

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400 Rockets Hit Israel

by minimus in

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israel retaliated and some are accusing israel of an “act of terrorism”.

evidently these rockets are trying to get to tel aviv but the dome is getting overwhelmed.. i wonder if the usa and other nations will come to israel’s defense..

Diogenesister

Anyone watches Netflix "Fauda"??? Along with Fargo it's one of my favourites (hoping for a season 4 soon)

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Do local JWs want in-person meetings back in your congregation?

by JWTom in

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i realize many here think that in-person meetings will return as soon as things are safe with covid.

but many acknowledge it will likely be 2022 or later when this happens.. surprisingly, many pimi jws in our congregation are not shy about saying they are fine with zoom meetings forever and do not want to go back to in-person meetings.

many speculate similar thoughts that are on this site....such as a combination of in-person and zoom meetings.

Diogenesister

As I told my brother who zooms. Just take a picture of yourself in your meeting clothes. Put in front of the camera. Then go do what you want.

Take a few, then change the picture a few times and say your picture keeps freezing😂

If there is a blizzard, instead of canceling the boasting session, they simply use Zoom.

Oh heck that's a good point!!!🙄

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I am still not able to solve this God's name paradox...

by psyco in

i am finishing to read the entire bible (nwt 2013) for my first time (my fault) and i wrote down hundreds, maybe thousands, of questions not clear to me, but one especially came in my mind meditating on god's name.. if i wanted to summarize the entire bible in one phrase i would say (even before the kingdom): god’s name sanctification.. god is jealous about his name.

he does everything for the love of his name, and he wants to be called and prayed using his name.

no doubt about all this (repeated several times in the bible), but it involves the pronunciation of his name.. god left us his name in the form of יהוה which is unpronounceable.

Diogenesister

Think about it, if the pronunciation of god's name was that important, the most important thing to an all knowing, all powerful being ....why didn't he ensure it was clearly stated, kept alive and not altered?

We have thousands of old Greek testament manuscripts from as early as the second century, yet there is not one extant example of the tetragramaton in any of these Greek testament scriptures. Why???

Either God is not all powerful or his name is not that important to him. Really, if you were God would you be worried about your reputation? Would you need to be? Or would a loving God be more preoccupied with the salvation of his children? In other words his kingdom?

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I want to help

by Debra in

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my name is debra i have been out of this cult for a number of years now but i know how difficult it is for people to have the courage to leave especially if they have family still trapped inside i'd like to help people who may be struggling by offering them a listening ear and some support /friendship via email .

Diogenesister

Hello Debra, nice to meet you. It can be really lonely if you're trapped and more so if you have recently exited especially now, during lockdown. I think even though social media is better than nothing, it's no replacement for real human contact. Whether that's letters, phone calls, face to face or even personal emails.

It's very kind of you to offer. Out of interest there is someone on here that runs a support group and they like to have contacts so they know where to send folks local to you when they need help (in your time zone etc). I haven't seen her posting for a while, but you can reach Sherri via JWsurvey.com so it's definitely worth you registering your interest with her. She will want your contact details, however.

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Neanderthals carb loaded, helping grow their big brains

by Disillusioned JW in

see https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/05/neanderthals-carb-loaded-helping-grow-their-big-brains .

the article says in part 'the study is “groundbreaking,” says harvard university evolutionary biologist rachel carmody, who was not part of the research.

the work suggests the ancestors of both humans and neanderthals were cooking lots of starchy foods at least 600,000 years ago.

Diogenesister

If a chimp wins masterchef, maybe I'll start taking vegans more seriously.

Well now that's just plain silly.......

........ ...Chimps are not vegetarians

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Bathing Daily Doesn’t Help The Planet

by minimus in

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the new york times as well as other news agencies are reporting that in order to help save the planet we should limit our daily bathing.

they say daily bathing really because popular in the 20th century because elites decided to impress and use petroleum based soaps and take advantage of their indoor plumbing.

a lot of this daily bathing ritual was just for show.

Diogenesister

I've heard people say their dermatologists advise they shower every other day because soaps are drying -- unreal! Water is a natural moisturizer so maybe they need to rinse the soap off a tad bit longer so they can resume showering daily.

Wash with emollients...such as E45. That way you're nice and clean but don't damage or dry out sensitive, dry, delicate or friable /elderly skin. Another way is to take collagen supplements and use vasaline after bathing.

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Watch this, and don’t shoot the messenger...

by DATA-DOG in

hopefully i’m doing this right and it will display for you.

this is an interview with michael yeadon, former vice president and chief science officer of pfizer.

of course he has been attacked, slandered, shunned, ect, and this will never be allowed on social media, but he has taken the time to appear in an unpaid interview.

Diogenesister

Rocket Man To suggest that governments are trying to redundantly and inappropriately impose fear by lock downs, social restrictions and mask wearing is really missing both the intent and point.

Yes If someone could explain what possible advantage a government would have for instigating all this.

ALL governments, by the way. Who fail to agree on anything; usually, with one accord decide to place fear in the hearts of their populace, drive apart families, close businesses and cause a financial downturn which will likely ensure they themselves are voted OUT in the next election.

Asking for a friend ....

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The Bible and its use of excesses beggars belief ?

by smiddy3 in

how many accounts of the bibles use of excesses can you recall ?

i will start off with a favourit of mine.. the inauguration of solomons temple and the sacrifices offered .2chron.7 :4-5 , 22,000 cattle and 120,000 sheep ?

c,mon.

Diogenesister

Come on, 185,000 bodies lying everywhere. Who counted the bodies to put the sum total in the bible?

Although In the Bible it does admit they gave silver as a pay off to the Assyrian king, according to Assyrian historical documents they simply left because the Jews coughed up so many chests of gold for them to do so! No mention of any angels! I imagine with the money the truth lies somewhere in the middle, though. It's certainly not unusual for warring nations to exaggerate their triumphs.

My favourite Biblical exaggeration is Sampson's killing 1000 Philistines with - wait for it - the jawbone of a donkey😳😂

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Bathing Daily Doesn’t Help The Planet

by minimus in

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friends

the new york times as well as other news agencies are reporting that in order to help save the planet we should limit our daily bathing.

they say daily bathing really because popular in the 20th century because elites decided to impress and use petroleum based soaps and take advantage of their indoor plumbing.

a lot of this daily bathing ritual was just for show.

Diogenesister

knew a witness that had a condition called TMAU (trimethylmaneria??). It caused him to have a bad body odor despite bathing several times per day. The brother said how critical it was to bathe or the odor would be worse.

I had a poor female maths teacher who had a condition that made her perspire very badly.

I felt so sorry for her because the kids were so cruel. I made sure to behave well in her class because she had enormous problems controlling the class - which made her perspire more ..I could barely hear the lesson.

The worse thing was she always wore silk shirts which as you know shows up perspiration patches worse than almost anything. I so wanted to say something but I didn't want her to think me rude.