Posts by Diogenesister

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

Kim has mr. Novoselo actually admitted to being his solicitor, please? Did he admit to writing the letter and, if he did, is he qualified?

It's just I did some undergraduate law modules and it really didn't seem a legit legal letter to me, notwithstanding the language issues.

I think this dude allowed him maybe as a favour to a mate or maybe because he bunged him some cash, to use his name, whilst Lloyd (with his big ego thinking he could) wrote that letter himself!!!

I think you should sue him. For reals. He is slandering you, Kim. He is taking money off of those patrons whilst he either slinks off somewhere else with more hookers, or bums around doing nothing. Either way it's false pretences to say he's working.

Seriously Kim please counter sue. Then you will see whether he has really engaged the services of a solicitor or not and he will at least be forced to pay poor old Novosello who has been thrown head first into this mess (if indeed he is a student. If not I've no sympathy for him)

NB Tell Tale has a much bigger platform, how come no one is going after him if it's all about the size of your platform, Lloyd???

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Disassociation letter

by joao in

i sent my disassociation letter two days ago!

i couldn't stand it anymore!

so many lies, the exploitation of sincere people, the ridiculous amount of rules and all this protection of pedophiles, plus the life of gb as if they were wealthy dictators!

Diogenesister

I hope there are no problems for you with your family. I've never been in your situation myself but I've read and heard the stories of many many people who have. The two main pieces of advice they all give is to not be too dogmatic about things and to pose everything as a question, rather than a statement of fact. Known as 'socratic questioning' it encourages their own critical thinking skills to kick in and helps to stop them doubling down on their beliefs (which, by the way, you might find they do as a reflex bourne of conditioning).

The other thing they advise is to be the best husband and father you can, even if you're struggling. This might be especially true in your daughters case but what they mean by that is to try to do things with them away from the cult. So fun family bonding stuff....anything to allow them to see that you haven't changed as a person and that life away from watchtower can be satisfying, fun & safe etc. It also gives them breathing space to start to think for themselves. Many people have said that physical time & space away from constant reinforcement of watchtower beliefs allowed them to really think properly (it's also why cults insist so strongly on meetings).

I wish you all the best my friend and I'm happy another person will not be waisting their life in servitude to watchtower!

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When did JWs stop reciting the Lord’s Prayer together?

by slimboyfat in

does anyone know what year?

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Diogenesister

I was taught to say the Lord's prayer as a child, were you SBF?

Have they stopped saying it? Or at least saying it publicly? I do remember being taught that one shouldn't repeat prayer by rote, without thinking about what I was praying like the Catholics do.

I remember as a youngster feeling a bit guilty for praying the Lord's prayer at night because I was too tired to say my "own"😂

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8 Year Old Can Decide If They Are Transgendered

by minimus in

so says joe biden.. anybody agree with this?

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Diogenesister

After Caitlyn Jenner essentially led the women's march, a man who abandoned his wife & four children, Joe Biden tweeted "Trans rights are the civil rights issue of our time".

A week later Hunter Biden refuses to pay child support.

That says it all to me, just how much these woke men really value women and children.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

You can be mentally in (and think it’s the true religion) and still celebrate birthdays. It’s part of what makes POMIs particularly annoying.

I agree. This is also a good way of 'celebrating, but not celebrating', allowing friends and family to do something nice for her, whilst not directly benefitting her.

From what I can gather it seems Lloyds family were willing to continue their relationship if he didn't disassociate (for his father in particular), and for his sister if he discontinued his very public activism.

There are ways to take down The Tower behind the scenes, without your face being front and centre. I take it 'producer Bob' is one such person. If it were me I'd take that route so I could maintain contact with my family, for the sake of my kids.

But I guess that route isn't financially rewarding.

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8 Year Old Can Decide If They Are Transgendered

by minimus in

so says joe biden.. anybody agree with this?

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Diogenesister

Just to say, how do you think the following presidents - Trump, Obama and Biden - initially first voted when it came to gay marriage?

Trump: Yes

Obama: No

Biden: No

Biden is on record as being both racist and homophobic. These days he merely parrots what he is told.

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TIME MAGAZINE -Cult article - singles out Judge Rutherford

by Terry in

https://content.time.com/time/subscriber/article/0,33009,738983,00.html.

big, blue-eyed judge joseph frederick rutherford, 60, lives in a ten-room spanish mansion, no.

4440 braeburn road.

Diogenesister

Bookmarked, Terry. Thank you!

Cannot believe Time had their number back in 1930. Rutherford turned it into a Californian cult during that period, no question.

He even bagged the obligatory acolyte mistress and a couple of fast cars!

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Here's a question that I guarantee no one has ever thought of!

by nowwhat? in

unlike men who took no note, surely the fallen angels knew of gods plan to flood the earth, so why didn't they build an ark(s) for their nephilum sons?

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Diogenesister

The witnesses will answer: Those Wicked Angels care nothing for anyone else. They are far to selfish to care about their children.

More to the point: Why did God create this giant flood killing all humanity, saving one family to start over.....yet this same family are still 'fallen'. They still carrying the same propensity to 'sin' the humans he's just killed had. So a fresh start for humanity.....whatever could go wrong???

Unless the flood happened to really kill the nephalim. In which case this 'loving' God of 'justice' was both unloving and unjust, by murdering millions of innocent people & animals.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

Vienne We need to stop the nonsense. What the Watchtower said 100 or so years ago persuades no one, though it may make some feel like it was good to leave.

BottanicPepper It was a coffin nail for me. Not the only one, by any means, but it had a large impact. When I discovered some of the rubbish Rutherford was writing in his multiple books it made it even clearer there was no God backing this "strange" man, or his organisation.

Absolutely. Vienne doesn't understand, having never been a witness. Once you realise the completely crazy, inappropriate behaviour the leader of the faith displayed, at the time their own doctrine claims Jesus choose them as the one true faith, the whole thing collapses. I think whatever happens during the nascent period of the religion is very relevent. It's the very foundations of the faith....after all a house built on sand and all that!!

NB The reason the Aspinall's have a lot of books on their bookshelves is because they are Bookshellers!! That is their job 🙄

Vienne You seem to find anyone who is fairly knowledgeable, both of Biblical doctrine and Watchtower history (having lived it) somehow a threat. Why is that? I don't understand. It doesn't take anything away from the scholarly work of your uncle, Vienne.

NB BottanicPepper 'Vienne' is the young daughter of the original Vienne, who tragically passed away from cancer.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

"Cry-Bullies"

At 0:55 Douglas Murray describes this behaviour perfectly using a term coined by Julie Burchill.

It's a behaviour Lloyd encapsulates perfectly. Bully people in order to get what you want (& protect your income stream) & When you are caught out, present yourself as a victim.

(Douglas happens to be describing the turnaround by "Libs Of Tik Tok" Doxxer Taylor Lorenz, a 'reporter' who only 2 weeks earlier was crying over "bullies" harassing her family & doxxing her.)

https://youtu.be/VHzJFMcir8E