Posts by Diogenesister

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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Diogenesister

caught that too. Kim directly mentioned Dijana's brother (who had never been spoken about by either of them) killing himself.

Yes they did. I can actually picture when but I can't find the video. It hit me like a ton of bricks. He was her baby brother? I lost my baby brother too...so😥

They were driving in the car and started talking about it. It may have been either a video about Dijana in her own words or when they were off to Warwick. But they've definitely talked about it.

I get the feeling it's one of the main reasons her parents will never shun Dijana....she's a good daughter and she's all they have.

I can actually picture where the conversation took place. I thought it was suicide....or suspected suicide? I may be wrong. It was a couple of years back .

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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Diogenesister

You have to check this one out - it's very well done & professional. Go watch, like and comment!

My first (short,young) marriage was to a real narc and I absolutely knew, when I found out about everything knowing as I did about Dijana's brother, exactly how he controlled her.

I mean this alone.....people if you listen to one thing, listen to this....

Sorry it's Kameron Fader's video over the page that Simon posted, at 29:54

NB Kameron watch out! Your'll be next on the litigation list......Lloyd isn't 50😳....He's 40...ish!!😂😂

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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Diogenesister

As I said. Imagine actually thinking that this joke of lawsuit stands a chance. It's too much even for that clown of Lloyd. For sure he's is just doing it so that he can later claim he did all he could.

I think it's even slimier than that. On the last occasion that he threatened legal action, he raised money with no result.

So he's probably getting one or more of his wealthier patrons to give him money on the basis that he is going to prosecute these libelous people or "HIS WORK" will go up in a puff of smoke and ~~evil~~ Watchtower will forever Triumph!!!

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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Diogenesister

LooGoode I also had been looking up Croation law and I think you're right it has to be a crime in the country the defendant resides in. Which is highly unlikely since few countries hold insult to be a crime. But I thought their insult law which is prosecuted under the criminal code, unless I understood it completely incorrectly, has to be against a someone who works in a public capacity - such as a government official etc?? That's what I didn't understand.🤷‍♀️

The civil suit for regular defamation, libel etc, anyone in the states is covered by first amendments and fairly new 'libel tourism' laws.

Britain and Australia's protections are less robust maybe??

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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Diogenesister

So funny. This came up when I googled the Croation address on the letter heading he posted on Twitter:😂😂🤦

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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Diogenesister

D.A.R.V.O. (Deny Attack and Reverse Victim and Offender)

This to me sums up Lloyds behaviour toward kim and others who have crossed him. He uses the method many researchers have claimed is a common manipulation strategy used by psychological abusers. It's based on the work of psychologist Jennifer Freyd who has written:

"...I have observed that actual abusers threaten, bully and make a nightmare for anyone who holds them accountable or asks them to change their abusive behavior. This attack, intended to chill and terrify, typically includes threats of law suits, overt and covert attacks on the whistle-blower's credibility, and so on. The attack will often take the form of focusing on ridiculing the person who attempts to hold the offender accountable. [T]he offender rapidly creates the impression that the abuser is the wronged one, while the victim or concerned observer is the offender. Figure and ground are completely reversed. The offender is on the offense and the person attempting to hold the offender accountable is put on the defense".

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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Diogenesister

Toblerone5 My introvert brain just remember ,i read a few years ago, pretty sure it was on JW watch, he add a big argument with somebody about another activist? having better Hair than him ,do any of you remember this? anyway now I have to go down that rabbit hole and find it .

It was Bo Juel😂🤣I think he had beef over something, the hair was an added bonus for Lloyd😂

Actually @Cappy tan had an actual beef on Reddit with him about trying to look more groomed if you want to appeal to JW's. I'm a wee bit embarrassed to say I chimed in as well, with Cappy.

Cappy thought he was making an innocent observation....of course Lloyd totally lost his shit over it🤣.

We are both now on the fence as to how far a person should Cape to Jehovah's witnesses over their OTT grooming standards.

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The story of a renegade anointed

by Terry in

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remarkable sister pettifog.

this morning i arrived on my bicycle at the local starbucks early and took up a seat at the outdoor table in the fresh air.. that’s when it happened--a group of 3 older ladies at one of the other tables outside rose to leave and one of them walked over to my table and spoke directly to me.

i was wearing earbuds at that moment and didn’t hear.

Diogenesister

One of my all-time Terry favourites☺️

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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Diogenesister

Interesting Lloyd can just take off on TWO trans continental trips in the space of two months, yet the qualified professional giving of their time - free and anonymously - would need some extra cash before she could even consider flying away on 'the trip of a lifetime' (If these are trips of a life time Lloyd must be a cat....with nine lives🤔).

He's making a fluff about Kim pointing out his 'company/business earnings' - It is a business -Yet he was doing this very thing about Watchtower not so long ago.

He maintains Watchtower is a damaging cult and he is merely an individual. Ok. But they both have something in common...both live off of donations from people who believe in their work as 'humanitarian'.

Meanwhile they are both running a profitable business.

Neither Watchtower's leaders nor Lloyd are noticeably affluent. Yet both lead relatively leasurely lifestyles, enjoying world travel & people keen to meet them arranging and paying for their accomodation. Not forgetting never having to fight their way through the rush hour traffic to get to work.

I believe it fair that people therefore demand transparency around Lloyds earnings and that his expenditure is at least compatible with the principals he campaigns about.

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How far do we get away from 1914

by PimoElder in

how far do we get away from 1914 before they have a new light and admit it was all wrong?.

they cling to the old theory of the 77 week prophecy from the wrong date that jerusalem was destroyed .

with the overlapping generations nonsense still we are getting too far away from 1914. what will they say if we get to the 2030s and they still cling to 1914?.

Diogenesister

they were going to attempt a removal of 1914, they would have to do it over a long period of time. De-emphasize it, start to make it a minor point, so that it wouldn't be such a shock.

I believe they already are. I think someone checked the study editions and there has only been one real mention of the 1914 doctrine in the last 20 years??