Posts by Diogenesister

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

photos are being circulated that Dijana disclosed privately to someone she assumed to be a trusted friend. I want to make it clear that the woman in the photos is in her 20s and not a sex worker.

Why would Dijana share a random photo of Lloyd and just another tourist/tour guide/scuba diver/friend, with someone privately? What is she upset about? In fact why would she be so upset about a random photo of Lloyd with a random person he knows, to the extent she actually shares it with someone?? Why would Dijana need to "trust" someone so much if it was just a photo of a tour guide or scuba instructor, say?🤔

Lloyd's conceit at the level of his intelligence and the level of our stupidity, knows no bounds!!! 🙄😂

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

In the video section NCC just posted, Lloyd makes out he's just an honest dude coming clean. He inmates he could have denied it but no, not "Saintly Lloyd" - instead he's being 'totally honest'.

When actually he had no choice in the matter - since Kim S. and producer Bob had all the evidence on tape or what's App!!

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New JW.Watch Website - Plans, Ideas & Submissions

by Simon in

i want to create a new site to help people leaving the wts.. the idea is that it will be curated content of articles and videos on specific subjects such as how to fade, how to handle family, personal experiences of leaving, mistakes to avoid, plus practical life matters impacted by the wts such as how to create or rebuild a career, planning for retirement, getting counselling, making friends etc.... the idea is that it should be lots of voices to share the love and promote lots of people's channels so it becomes a more effective resource (hopefully there will always be something informative and appealing to the people visiting).. if you have a youtube channel that you would like featured, or maybe have some specific video or series that would suit, i'd be happy to include them.. likewise, if you have a subject you'd like to write about and can share some practical knowledge and guidance on, or have a life-story you'd like to share because your experience could benefit others, please let me know.. i bought a domain and setup some placeholder content:.

https://jw.watch.

please message me or post here if you have any questions or ideas..

Diogenesister

Carla Just to clarify, my anti jw literature was aimed at unsuspecting householders not jw's. It was quite a long time ago now. My jw was one of the rare ones that was caught up by someone knocking on the door

This is where targeted and even general information is definitely useful. It's why everything everyone posts on line is positive because it raises the profile of those who have left and just why we view Watchtower as harmful.

Prophylactic medicine always works the best!! If the public have truthful information before the JWs call, they will be far less vulnerable to their tactics.

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New JW.Watch Website - Plans, Ideas & Submissions

by Simon in

i want to create a new site to help people leaving the wts.. the idea is that it will be curated content of articles and videos on specific subjects such as how to fade, how to handle family, personal experiences of leaving, mistakes to avoid, plus practical life matters impacted by the wts such as how to create or rebuild a career, planning for retirement, getting counselling, making friends etc.... the idea is that it should be lots of voices to share the love and promote lots of people's channels so it becomes a more effective resource (hopefully there will always be something informative and appealing to the people visiting).. if you have a youtube channel that you would like featured, or maybe have some specific video or series that would suit, i'd be happy to include them.. likewise, if you have a subject you'd like to write about and can share some practical knowledge and guidance on, or have a life-story you'd like to share because your experience could benefit others, please let me know.. i bought a domain and setup some placeholder content:.

https://jw.watch.

please message me or post here if you have any questions or ideas..

Diogenesister

Simon in response to a posters request for a non religious therapist, Scully and I both posted a page called "Find a Secular therapist" which covers all the English speaking countries and maybe could be posted under a "Help" section? The "Recovering from religion" organization is another good resource.

https://www.seculartherapy.org/

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New JW.Watch Website - Plans, Ideas & Submissions

by Simon in

i want to create a new site to help people leaving the wts.. the idea is that it will be curated content of articles and videos on specific subjects such as how to fade, how to handle family, personal experiences of leaving, mistakes to avoid, plus practical life matters impacted by the wts such as how to create or rebuild a career, planning for retirement, getting counselling, making friends etc.... the idea is that it should be lots of voices to share the love and promote lots of people's channels so it becomes a more effective resource (hopefully there will always be something informative and appealing to the people visiting).. if you have a youtube channel that you would like featured, or maybe have some specific video or series that would suit, i'd be happy to include them.. likewise, if you have a subject you'd like to write about and can share some practical knowledge and guidance on, or have a life-story you'd like to share because your experience could benefit others, please let me know.. i bought a domain and setup some placeholder content:.

https://jw.watch.

please message me or post here if you have any questions or ideas..

Diogenesister

Another suggestion that came to mind....how about a book review/recommendation section (books related to watchtower or leaving watchtower/cults?) I noticed Slim has very the pretty pricey 'Rutherfords Coup' book and wrote a small piece on it, plus Jeff has a new book that was reviewed?

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Rutherford's Coup

by RolRod in

a new book on the events of the 1917 schism titled rutherford's coup is officially out on amazon.. authored by rud persson.

description.

raised a baptist, in 1906, joseph franklin rutherford, a provincial missouri attorney with a shrewd and scheming legal mind, became a baptized “bible student.” in 1907, rutherford became the legal counselor for the group's legally chartered corporation, the watch tower bible and tract society of pennsylvania.

Diogenesister

I'm wondering if it means ght be possible to order it through your local library? Sometimes if they don't have it you can put in a request.

Maybe we should have a book review section here. I'm guessing you've read it SBF???

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Diogenesister

Not all, some will be those militant anti-religious types who will like him more for living an anti-moral lifestyle.

I was thinking the same thing, though I hate to admit it. (Matt Dillahunty, anyone?🙄).

I think there's a lot of Athiest incels and woman haters who like the idea of Lloyd demanding his wife accepts his sexual demands (ie stays married but still has his Thai 'girlfriends' to visit every couple of months....and Dijana must lump it)

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Does anyone have a photo copy they can share of a TMS topic?

by jojorabbit in

i am looking for a tms that was published in the early 70s that said many have sold homes to go where the need was great, this is a fine way to spend ones time in the last days.

i am trying to remember how it was said to the best of my knowledge but this is close.

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Diogenesister

JoJorabbit Hi if you DM Atlantis or Twitter Jason M. Wynne @jasonmwynne founder of Avoidjw.org as he can assess most watchtower documents and either has it or knows where to get it.

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Congregation in PA sues over mandatory reporting

by Corney in

ivy hill congregation of jehovah's witnesses is currently suing the pa department of human services.

it requests "a declaration that its elders are entitled to" clergy privilege, or, in the alternative,.

to the extent that the clergyman privilege is determined to exclude its elders on the basis that they are "members of [a] religious organization[] in which members other than the leader thereof are deemed clergymen or ministers," the court declare the statute to be unconstitutional.

Diogenesister

They can also be sued when they disclose ecclesiastical communications to law enforcement.

Fisherman This is all irrelevant because the fact is elders don't find out through 'ecclesiastical confession', they find out because a parent or child reports it to them. Victims report it to them because watchtower makes them fear going to the police and they are primed to only tell the elders when the culprit is another witness.

Even if you can argue an elder isn't paid clergy, the circuit overseer certainly is! Abuse is also always reported to them during their circuit/elder meetings. I think authorities should be prosecuting COs for failure to report.

NB LHG makes a very good point about priests being priests for life, whereas elders frequently step down, get deleted, get DF or wake up!!

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Hello Everyone

by JohnPaul in

jw
friends

hi everyone i would like to say hello to everyone,.

i just started attending kingdom hall about a month ago now and am doing bible study with a brother..

Diogenesister

Hi JohnPaul if you want to quote things copy and paste it and then press the " quotation marks at the top of the box here. It will turn your quoted text yellow.

NB I highly highly recommend you first check out JWfacts.com before you continue with your study.