Nathan that wouldn't be sung anywhere nowadays it's so un-PC. Although it pretty much applies to more and more of the male population 😂
Diogenesister
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What hymns will you never hear sung in Kingdom Halls of Jehovah's Witnesses?
by Vanderhoven7 infor sure you will never hear the national anthem of heaven below.
do you know others?.
https://youtu.be/gkovqfcdegu.
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Am I being unreasonable in this ?
by smiddy3 inhi friend`s ,i have my son and dil living with us ,which has been ok,overall ,quite a few years now ,however ,a few months ago they decided they wanted a dog ok ?
we had one a toy poodle for about 16-17 years and i just loved her as did my wife.. a few months ago my son wanted a dog and got a french bulldog as a pup ,which was ok by us .. however to cut a long story short, yesterday i was out in the back yard and the dog lunged at me and started attacking me in such a way as i can only describe as being frenetic in his attack ,in trying to ward off his attack and getting away from him i fell over and i believe if my son hadn`t finlly restrained him he would have mauled me .
i am 83 years old and my wife has just turned 80. and i dont want that to happen to her .. i don`t know the dog is what 4-5-6 months old i`m not sure , and been living with us all this time ,however i`m going to tell them to get that dog out of my house by the week and and a half or i will one way or another .. i am not going to tolerate that in my household and if he don`t like it he can go also .. i`m not being unreasonable am i ?
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Smiddy A lot of these "fashionable" dogs are not raised by proper breeders. There are rules (not strict enough in my opinion) about related-ness (if that's a word) to prevent in breeding. A lot of pups also come from animals with poor temperaments who should never be bred from.
Sounds like your son has got himself one of these as frenchies are super fashionable now.
I was told by Battersea dogs home no less that a dog that attacks once is almost certain to do so again. Your son should have offered immediately to get it re homed and not put you in this position. It's still young he'll have no problem finding a more suitable home. But he'll loose his money because he absolutely must NOT re sell it, but give it to someone who knows what they are doing in attempting to re train it and find it a suitable home. Perhaps a single adult or young couple ( definitely no kids!!!) That person can then decide if the dog is too unsafe for anyone. It's should also be neutered.
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What hymns will you never hear sung in Kingdom Halls of Jehovah's Witnesses?
by Vanderhoven7 infor sure you will never hear the national anthem of heaven below.
do you know others?.
https://youtu.be/gkovqfcdegu.
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NBD doctrinally not at odds with pretty much any denomination even JWs. Yet because it's from so called BtG it's off limits.
Good point Neat Blue Dog
There's quite a lot of hymns that weren't written specifically for Christmas, although they may be used then. Or for any specific denomination. Many are taken from old spiritual (US) or folk traditional, and you couldn't get more humble and non-Babylon-ish than that....old slaves in their hut or serfs in their hovels, praying for deliverance. Makes me feel quite emotional, actually thinking of their suffering. Modern JWs couldn't conceive of that 'persecution'.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Why pay all of that for Broadcasting rebuttals when any exjw can watch a broadcast and do it in their own head.
Watchtower in focus was only ever interesting because of the input by Kim, Mark and guests.
Faith versus faith I have zero interest in and others such as Derek on Mythvision do it so much better.
As for interviews I prefer Dubstepped doing his "Shunned podcast" in-depth, genuinely considerate interviews.
As to everything else Wally, Mike and Kim, Wendy renay, Goatlike, Jexit, Borean Pickets, ChristyAnn, Jake, David and Vivian....(well I could go on and on) are all far more interesting and entertaining.
I'm also happy to donate or buy a coffee in thanks to genuine folks...but not to support someone to harass, cancel and drive others away.
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The Holy Spirit
by Leolaia inthis was posted originally in the rodney dangerfield thread......
i don't really know much about the trinity other than what i was told as a jw but it does seem to me that the holy ghost is definitely running a distant third in the popularity contest.
when jws get into arguments with trinitarians, it's almost always about whether jesus is god, isn't it?
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From Leolaia - "wisdom" personified, to JCanon....er, not?
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Three new lawsuits against Watchtower filed under NY Child Victims Act (CVA) this October, bringing number of CVA cases up to six
by Corney innew cases:.
diaz case, filed on 10/21/2020 by zalkin law firm - two plaintiffs abused (here and hereinafter - allegedly) by two ministerial servants in 1970s.. iglesias case, filed on 10/19/2020 by eisenberg & baum, llp against various nyc and wt entities - abused by an "elder john doe" and "[travelling] overseer john" in 1970s and 1980s.. aldridge case, filed 10/06/2020 by zalkin law firm - abused by a congregation elder in 1970s.. older cases:.
tarry case (no 1 and no 2), filed on 09/17/2019 and 07/23/2020 by parker waichman llp - abused by a publisher in 1984. very weak case.
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Stan Iglesias case, filed on 10/19/2020 by Eisenberg & Baum, LLP against various NYC and WT entities - abused by an "elder John Doe" and "[travelling] overseer John" in 1970s and 1980s.
it just keeps getting better.
Stan Did you see the response this JW on Quora gave to me when I gave him links to info on Watchtower's child abuse database?
He claims it probably lists the following:
Those allegations may include anyone who has walked into a Kingdom Hall of Jehovah's Witnesses; any individual who has studied the Bible with us in prison; and every person out of the community that associates with us where we've become aware that there is a child abuse allegation.
Also Individuals who have never been baptized Witnesses, but whose names we are obliged to keep because of their association with the Witnesses. (An example of this would be a non-Witness father or step-father who is accused by his Witness children or step-children of abusing them.🥴🙄
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Three new lawsuits against Watchtower filed under NY Child Victims Act (CVA) this October, bringing number of CVA cases up to six
by Corney innew cases:.
diaz case, filed on 10/21/2020 by zalkin law firm - two plaintiffs abused (here and hereinafter - allegedly) by two ministerial servants in 1970s.. iglesias case, filed on 10/19/2020 by eisenberg & baum, llp against various nyc and wt entities - abused by an "elder john doe" and "[travelling] overseer john" in 1970s and 1980s.. aldridge case, filed 10/06/2020 by zalkin law firm - abused by a congregation elder in 1970s.. older cases:.
tarry case (no 1 and no 2), filed on 09/17/2019 and 07/23/2020 by parker waichman llp - abused by a publisher in 1984. very weak case.
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Corney I'm surprised nobody has yet written about that case.
Do you mean on here?
If so someone did because I remember (I think Slim or Simon?) saying Gerrit Losche being in Austria at the time made it highly unlikely this young woman reported the abuse to Gerrit as he was a random visitor to Bethel at the time. If indeed he was there at all
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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The fact he can't read Norwegian may have something to do with the fact Jonas (Goatlike personality) and Jan Nilsen know a bit more than Cedars thinks he does about this🙄
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Why on earth does Cedars think it's another topic??!
This article by Avoidjw.org is very comprehensive posted on October 22nd it took me two seconds to find. It clarifies that no religion has the right to financial assistance and so Watchtower's appeal falls outside the jurisdiction of the ECHR
https://avoidjw.org/news/norway-jehovahs-witnesses-denied-state-subsidy/
" The State Administrator makes it clear that state funding falls outside the scope of the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR), Articles 9 and 11. Neither Article entitle religions to state subsidies. Quoting from the European Court of Human Rights, it says, “The freedom to manifest one’s religion or beliefs under this Article [9] does not confer on the applicant association or its members and entitlement to secure additional funding from the State budget".
The Norwegian government also made it clear their practice of shunning is both systematic and intentional and not just the individual choice of members, so is a violation of government rules on freedom of belief.
"Jehovah’s Witnesses claimed that no statistics are kept on the age of baptized young people in Jehovah’s Witnesses. However, they could not say with certainty that pre teens are not baptised!!
It must be noted that the State Administrator based its decision mainly on information relating to shunning from the Jehovahs witnesses own publications. The information indicates that shunning involves a form of strict, systematic and targeted social exclusion, which the State Administrator finds to be a form of negative social control and psychological violence."
The State Administrator believes it unreasonable to wait for several violations of the Religious Communities Act to have occurred before taking action when Jehovah’s Witnesses’ practice and documents clearly point to such violations of the Act. In its assessment, emphasis is placed on how serious the violation is and whether it appears to be intentional. If the violation appears to be systematic, persistent or intentional, the grant must be refused in full. The violation was found to be systematic, persistent and intentional."
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Three new lawsuits against Watchtower filed under NY Child Victims Act (CVA) this October, bringing number of CVA cases up to six
by Corney innew cases:.
diaz case, filed on 10/21/2020 by zalkin law firm - two plaintiffs abused (here and hereinafter - allegedly) by two ministerial servants in 1970s.. iglesias case, filed on 10/19/2020 by eisenberg & baum, llp against various nyc and wt entities - abused by an "elder john doe" and "[travelling] overseer john" in 1970s and 1980s.. aldridge case, filed 10/06/2020 by zalkin law firm - abused by a congregation elder in 1970s.. older cases:.
tarry case (no 1 and no 2), filed on 09/17/2019 and 07/23/2020 by parker waichman llp - abused by a publisher in 1984. very weak case.
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Just as a FYI I got into a discussion with a Witness (who was counting time promoting Watchtower and the Russia ban) on Quora about Watchtowers child abuse problem. Having suggested two links to him, including the ARC, he came back with the following dreadful response
JW response to a post about the ARC, Watchtowers two witness rule and secret Database:"Confidential reports of any alleged incidents regarding a broad range of sexual misconduct and is not limited to sexual abuse of minors.
The records include the following:
- Individuals who have only been accused of child abuse whereas the charges have not been substantiated.
- Individuals where allegations were made on the basis of so-called “repressed memories,” the validity of which many authorities challenge.
- Individuals who have been accused of abusing children before becoming Jehovah’s Witnesses.
- Individuals who have never been baptized Witnesses, but whose names we are obliged to keep because of their association with the Witnesses. (An example of this would be a non-Witness father or step-father who is accused by his Witness children or step-children of abusing them.)
- Individuals who may or may not be considered child abusers, depending upon the jurisdiction where they live (for example, a 16-year-old boy who had sexual relations with a consenting 15-year-old girl).
- An individual who was guilty of voyeurism.
- An individual who was involved with “sexting.”
- An individual who was involved with child pornography.
- And, to be sure, individuals actually guilty of child abuse.
Those allegations may include anyone who has walked into a Kingdom Hall of Jehovah's Witnesses; any individual who has studied the Bible with us in prison; and every person out of the community that associates with us where we've become aware that there is a child abuse allegation. In each case, we have followed it up and recorded it. That's the reason for those numbers. And, without details regarding these incidents, the claims about the number of alleged perpetrators as it relates to sexual abuse of minors is meaningless.
As director of the Office of Public Information, J. R. Brown, told BBC Panorama, "We do not apologize for keeping such records here in the United States. Apart from being legally needed, they have been very helpful to us in our efforts to protect the flock from harm.
As for the Washington thing it revolved around ONE named person who eventually went to prison. They SPECULATED that it may have been sooner.
And this will continue and we expect it"
Matthew 10:16–18 NASB
16 “Behold, I am sending you out as sheep in the midst of wolves; so be as wary as serpents, and as innocent as doves. 17 But be on guard against people, for they will hand you over to the courts and flog you in their synagogues; 18 and you will even be brought before governors and kings on My account, as a testimony to them and to the Gentiles.
- * I've posted this on Vanderhoven's thread on another Quora post but had no response. This is probably more appropriate.