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Things you would like to do that you havent yet done
by carpediem inas i am new this may have been asked before.
but it is something i have been thinking about since i left the religion.. .
things i havent yet done but would like to do include:.
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Why are they so obsessed with satan?
by doublelife inmy whole family went over my aunt's house for dinner and my aunt showed me the program for my dad's funeral.
it made me so mad reading it.
it says nothing about my dad and the back page has a few paragraphs glorifying satan.
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doublelife
My whole family went over my aunt's house for dinner and my aunt showed me the program for my dad's funeral. It made me so mad reading it. It says nothing about my dad and the back page has a few paragraphs glorifying satan. Of coarse I couldn't complain without telling everyone I'm an apostate so I settled for complaining over the grammatical errors. Looking at the schedule, it shows the service will begin and end with a song. I'm not going to sing. I didn't realize they were going to take it that far. I'm pretty sure all the women are going to pretend we're at a kingdom hall and wear dresses. I'm thinking of wearing a pair of black pants instead, just to piss them off. If they have something to say about it, I'll just tell them that this isn't a kingdom hall and my dad was not a witness so it shouldn't matter that I'm not in a dress. I thought I would post what was written on the back page, complete with grammatical errors and all, so you can see what I'm dealing with.
"Emotional illness is so unpredictable and painful. When a loved one suffers from it we all suffer. Sometimes there seem to be no way to free ourselves from this curse. All that is left is to hope and endure.
We will now look foreword to the resurrection when all those in the memorial tombs will hear Jesus' voice and come out.(John 5:28)
We will choose to remember all the good things about our dear brother's life. We know he loved us all and was always willing to help when he could. How we wished we could have helped him more! The reason our brother is gone is Satan fault. He has been trying to destroy all from the beginning. It now must be our resolve to warn as many people as possible what a wicked, evil, no named person he is with only a title for him to be known by. How wonderful it will be when he is destroyed forever and our Great God Jehovah will "wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning no outcry nor pain be anymore."(Rev.21:4)
Sometime we go through life worrying about what job we will have, how much money we can make, what kind of car we will drive, where our next vacation will be or, how much or what kind of material things we will collect. All of this is futile since this system of things will soon be destroyed along with Satan and his demons. What we all need to do now, while we still can, is "put off every weight and the sin that easily entangles us and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us."(Heb.12:1)
As it is written "may our love abound yet more and more with accurate knowledge and full discernment, that you may make sure of the more important things."(Phil. 1:9 & 10)"
You know, it's pretty pathetic that this mentions satan more than it does the person who died. Even my husband thought it was too extreme and was making fun of it. On our way back home I told my husband that it makes me mad that everyone assumes he DA'd because of his mental problems and that he may have had good reasons for not wanting to be a witness. Then he got condescending and said, "He wasn't in his right mind. If I told everyone I was Santa Claus, that doesn't make it true." I just rolled my eyes at him and told him that analogy is not the same thing and doesn't make sense. While I was over there my uncles where talking about how they never expected to retire in this system and if they had of know, they may have done things differently. At one point, I was able to express some anti-jw talk. They got on the subject of it being hard to find non-violent entertainment. I made the comment that you can't even read the bible and escape violence. It was so funny to see everyone agree at first. My cousin even admitted to being scared of the burning bush story when she was a kid. My other aunt talked about how it was hard to teach her grandkids the story of Cain and Abel and explaining how one could kill their brother. All I did was make one comment and everyone went with it and then they realized they we speaking negatively about the bible and tried to backtrack. One of my uncle was like, "Well, there's nothing wrong with teaching your kids the truth." My other uncle said, "The bible story pictures were provided through Jehovah's channel so it can't be that bad." At least I was able to find a way to amuse myself.
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Giving *deserving ones* Jehovahs *undeserved kindness*
by OnTheWayOut ina youtuber, 21crosscheck21, has an excellent point.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jlsfmbtt7e.
the kingdom ministry, december 1993, page 7 says:.
"we want to give *deserving ones* the opportunity to learn of jehovahs *undeserved kindness* and the kingdom hope.".
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doublelife
Reading that km post by Open mind brought back all those memories of ask strangers for donation money. I can't believe I actually did that. Especially in my territory. Everyone was dirt poor. It always embarrassed me.
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My dad's funeral is this Saturday
by doublelife ini just need to vent about something.
as i've mentioned before, my dad was da'd when he died so he's not allowed to have a witnesses funeral.
so what does my family decide to do without even asking me?
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doublelife
Snoozy: The elders didn't have to approve it. The funeral is not going to be in a kingdom hall. It's at a funeral home but my uncle is taking it upon himself to do the funeral talk.
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My dad's funeral is this Saturday
by doublelife ini just need to vent about something.
as i've mentioned before, my dad was da'd when he died so he's not allowed to have a witnesses funeral.
so what does my family decide to do without even asking me?
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No, he wasn't married. But there's not really anything I can do. Arrangements have already been made and the funeral is in two days. As far as who's paying for the funeral, that's another thing that makes me mad. My dad didn't have life insurance in mine or my brother's name. But, my grandma has life insurance on him with herself as the beneficiary. I thought that would pay for the funeral but it turns out that my aunt decided to go to my dad's bank and take the money out of his account to pay for the funeral. How can she even do that? I didn't know that was legal for her to do. We don't even have a death certificate yet to prove to the bank he is dead. She said that when we get the death certificate then the insurance company will pay my grandma and my grandma will then pay back the money they took out to pay for the funeral. It's not like there is a lot of money to fight over but that's not the point. I don't appreciate them making all of these decisions without me.
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My dad's funeral is this Saturday
by doublelife ini just need to vent about something.
as i've mentioned before, my dad was da'd when he died so he's not allowed to have a witnesses funeral.
so what does my family decide to do without even asking me?
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I just need to vent about something. As I've mentioned before, my dad was DA'd when he died so he's not allowed to have a witnesses funeral. So what does my family decide to do without even asking me? They appoint my uncle, the only elder in our family, to give the funeral talk. It makes me so mad. I know that they think it's the truth but my dad would not have wanted a witness funeral. Why do they assume that my dad's mental problems is what caused him to DA? Mental illness does not equal stupid. He was very smart. The more I think about it, the more I realize that he did have reasons for not wanting to be a witness. I just cut him off whenever he tried to talk about it. This is so like my family to do something like this. Whenever someone in my family isn't in good standing and they have a funeral or wedding, they still get to have a witness one by having an elder relative do it. My cousin was under public reproof when she got married. She had her stepfather, who was an elder at the time, give the wedding talk. And what really pisses me off is that when my dad was first DA'd, he told my elder uncle over the phone and guess what my uncle did. He hung up the phone. He didn't even say bye or anything, he just hung up. And now he's giving my dad's funeral talk. What a hypocrite! Sunday, I was talking to my aunt over the phone and she went on and on about the resurrection hope and how, in the new system, we'll be joking with my dad about how stupid he was to do this to himself. Why would we be joking about this? Even if the WTS's doctrine about paradise was true, I don't see myself joking about this with my dad. So, anyways, this Saturday I get to listen to my uncle give a talk about seeing my dad in paradise.
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Are you a blood donor?
by GLTirebiter inin another thread, creativhoney said:.
the bible says there is no greater gift than you lay down your life for another, the bible refers to blood as life.
i conclude we should all give blood.. and chalam replied:.
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doublelife
wantstoleave: I would LOVE to be one, but due to having an autoimmune disease, can't
I have Hoshimoto's Thyroiditis which is also an autoimmune disease. Does that mean I can't give?
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Dec. 15th WT - WT Society REALLY Minimizes Earning a Decent Living
by flipper init's ridiculous.
i saw this so much in my 44 years in the jehovah's witness cult.
whether it was elders, pioneers, or other people in the cult criticizing others for working too much at their employment or missing some service or meetings due to employment.
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doublelife
When I was a kid, my mom made that same deal with me. Pioneer and you can live here rent free. When I did pioneer she changed her mind and still expected me to pay her rent. I ended up losing my job to go to pioneer school and couldn't find another one til a year later. Two years after that, I decided to stop pioneering so I could find a better job and move out. I was 22 and getting tired of living with my mom. One of my elders gave me a big guilt trip. He was one of my friends but I still always resented him for making feel like crap. Looking back, it was all a waste of time. I could've had a B.A. by now and making more money.
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Hello from me!
by Gonefullcircle inhello everyone.. after many months of lurking through my the worst time in my life and then not reading any posts since the website changed hands, i just wanted to say hello!.
all the stalwarts on here helped me so much through the worst times (born in, left when i was 34) i was too emotional to ever comment, but now i am ready to help others start to rebuild their worlds.. i just want to give all those doubters of that religion hope and help now that i have gone full circle- hence my user name.
there is lots to say, but i will join in and you will get to know me.. for anyone that is in turmoil with worry over whether to leave or not, i can empathise, but it will be the best decision you ever make!.
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Hello and welcome!
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They "can give gifts on any day of the year"... But do they?
by Albert Einstein inhow many times we had heard from jw (commenting on christmass, mothers day or bithdays) "they dont need a pecial day set to give gifts, because the can give it on any day" .... but whats your experience if you compare jw and non jw ... are they really giving?.
my sons (7) example:.
he has non jw grandparents: gets all kinds of gifts all the time, sweets, magazines, toys,.
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doublelife
Never got wrapped presents either. Every once in a while, my dad would save some money and take me and my brother to Toys'r'Us and let us pick out something. I only remember that happening three times. I don't have any kids but my brother has two. My mom always buys them presents. Last year, around Mother's Day, my boss asked what I was going to do for my mom. I had to go through the whole embarrassing explaination of why we don't celebrate and I gave him the line about giving gifts anytime of the year. Then he asked if I do that. He pretty much called me out and I got embarrassed and lied and said yes. I felt bad but it still didn't hit me at the time that gift giving is not in the whole jw mentality. I always thought that it was because we were poor. I now see the real reason behind it.