"I wasn't sure if I didn't prefer being ignored."
From Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
"I wasn't sure if I didn't prefer being ignored."
From Twilight, by Stephenie Meyer
in the spirit of thanksgiving, thought i ask what everyone is thankful for.. i am thankful for my family's good health and happiness, for the great friends i have, for my job that i absolutely love, for celebrating my 7th year of freedom this month from the wt publishing cult.. anyone else?.
I am thankful for learning the truth about "the truth." Thank you jwfacts.com
I am thankful that I have non-jw family to lean on.
I am thankful for this forum and having the support of people who have been through what I'm going through.
I'm thankful that the day after thanksgiving, I'm moving into a better and safer area.
i will get to the big shocker that i read within the last year or two in a wt study article, so please bear with me... i am new to this forum and have been reading postings for several days now, and can relate totally to many of the issues that many ex-jw have.
i was raised "around" the truth and although my parents were never "dipped", they wouldn't allow us to celebrate holidays or stand for natl anthem (not that i care now).
so i basically had many of the pressures and stress that witness kids had growing up, but with no spiritual support, as we attended only a handful of meetings while my parents studied when i was 5or6.
Hello and welcome!
I agree about the ministry being a pyramid scheme. I was just thinking that yesterday but instead of taking your money, they take your time and, ultimately, your life.
so yesterday, my husband gets out of bed and eats breakfast.
then, he comes back over to me and at this point, he doesn't even tell me to get out of bed and get ready for the meeting anymore.
instead, he asked me if i wanted to go.
hubert,
Probably not. His dad has read the book and when my husband found it, he tried to turn him into the elders for apostasy. But, he wasn't able to get the book away from his dad for proof. The proof would have been that his dad's handwriting was in the book. All that happened before we met. Come to think of it, I wonder if his dad post on here. He used to be an elder but now he is inactive. He told someone recently that he'll never go back because he has a problem with the way things are organized.
so yesterday, my husband gets out of bed and eats breakfast.
then, he comes back over to me and at this point, he doesn't even tell me to get out of bed and get ready for the meeting anymore.
instead, he asked me if i wanted to go.
Billy: Ha ha! That's funny. But you're right, I'm not wicked enough to do that.
HappyGuy: That's a good suggestion and yes, I still love God. But as for the family study, we never had that to begin with. My husband has always been a self-proclaimed lazy jw. He never studies and he doesn't even pray except for when he eats. I would never have admitted this to anyone at the time, but, that's one of the reasons I married him. My mom was such an overly strict jw that I knew I didn't want to marry someone like that. But he was very good at fooling my family into thinking he was spiritual.
for the first time today, when my boss asked what i'm going to be doing for thanksgiving, i didn't have to go into this awkward explaination of why i don't celebrate it.
i simply said that i'm going over my aunt's.
it may sound trivial but it feels great!
For the first time today, when my boss asked what I'm going to be doing for Thanksgiving, I didn't have to go into this awkward explaination of why I don't celebrate it. I simply said that I'm going over my aunt's. It may sound trivial but it feels great! This was always the one holiday that I hoped no one would ask me about. Other holidays are a little bit easier to explain. I never could find a good enough reason for why being thankful was bad. Of course we are suppose to be thankful everyday but that doesn't mean it's bad to make a special day for it.
so yesterday, my husband gets out of bed and eats breakfast.
then, he comes back over to me and at this point, he doesn't even tell me to get out of bed and get ready for the meeting anymore.
instead, he asked me if i wanted to go.
After reading everyone's responces, I'm starting to realize that it will get back to the elders eventually. But, as Robdar suggested, I think I want to be busted. I'm tired of not being me. After talking with my husband last night and expressing myself out loud, I feel more confident about feeling the way I do. My only concern now is my mom. I don't really care what anyone else thinks. And I don't think my husband will be comfortable talking to any of the elders or ex-elders on here. But thanks for the suggestion.
Oh, and HappyGuy, that post wasn't stupid. I've been doing that to keep him from going out in service. And for the most part, it works. lol
*** jv chap.
5 pp.
43-44 proclaiming the lords return (1870-1914) ***the twig, though, had been trained by god-fearing parents; it was inclined "in the direction of the lord.
Thanks for the correction. I was one of the ones who made the mistake. But the point I was making is still the same. The witnesses were not the first ones to come up with their basic doctrines such as soul sleep.
so yesterday, my husband gets out of bed and eats breakfast.
then, he comes back over to me and at this point, he doesn't even tell me to get out of bed and get ready for the meeting anymore.
instead, he asked me if i wanted to go.
So yesterday, my husband gets out of bed and eats breakfast. Then, he comes back over to me and at this point, he doesn't even tell me to get out of bed and get ready for the meeting anymore. Instead, he asked me if I wanted to go. I said no. He doesn't push it but goes by himself. Later in the afternoon, he asked me if I don't want to go to the meeting anymore and I tell him no again. So we get into a discussion and he just flat out asked him if I no longer believe in this religion. I told him no. Surprisingly, he doesn't get mad or yell or say any of the abusive, threatening things that he has in the past. We calmly talk about my reasons for feeling the way I do. He asked why I don't go to the elders about it and I told him that the elders will probably DF me. So by the end of the discussion, he agreed to not go to the elders and he will not divorce me and I'll just become inactive so as not to upset my family. It went much better than I expected. I told him that my family invited me to Thanksgiving dinner and that I would go and he didn't make a big deal about it. So today, we just got through having another discussion. He asked me if I feel that the jw religion doesn't have God's spirit and I told him no. He asked why. I told him that the 144,000 are a symbolic number when you read it in the context that they are all jewish male virgins. He was silent. I told him that the 1st century congregation didn't have a governing body and the faithful & discreet slave is a parable, not literal. Then I told him that the 7 times prophecy in Daniel had only one fulfillment, not two. He said, "Well, I don't know. I'll have to do more research about that." I told him to let me know what he finds. Then later he came back to me and says that the witnesses have a more accurate knowledge of the basic bible teachings even though they may have some things wrong. I told him that those basic bible teachings came from the 7th day Adventist. Then I asked him could that mean that the Adventists also have God's spirit. He said, as he was walking away, "Maybe. I'm sure there are other people besides the witnesses who have God's spirit." The he came back to me again and asked me, "So, the people that say they are anointed, are you saying that they're not." I simply told him that nobody has a right to say if God has put his spirit on someone or if he hasn't but that that number is not limited to 144,000. He was silent. He walked away and is now practicing his bible reading part for tomorrow's meeting. One thing that makes me nervous though is that he wants to talk to a spiritually mature brother for some advise now that his wife is an apostate. I understand that he needs someone to confide in and get advise from but I don't want it getting back to my elders. He asked if it would be okay to talk to someone who lives outside of state. I couldn't tell him no because I understand he needs a confidant just like I'm able to confide in you guys. But I made him promise that he won't tell what congregation he goes to. Do you think the news will end up getting back to my elders?
well, couple days ago i got stuck with a brother doing phone territory!
man, i hated that!
i kept on wishing no one picks up the phone or it's a disconnected phone number or something.
I refused to even try it. I didn't want to be a telemarketer.