Posts by Confuzzled

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Question About Tithing

by Confuzzled in

some of you may have read my post about my lasped jw boyfriend, and his pressure on me to consider to convert eventually (i'm not going too!

) but i still would like to better understand the church and watch tower society better so i can understand this mindset he has.

he makes much to do about the lack of an offering plate, and "the 2 boxes, one for the church, the other for the needy, nobody is put on the spot to donate".

I know my church ofers to keep records for ppl so they can get tax right-offs, but the secretary is an employee and those documents are confidential. She takes the collections every Sunday, nobody else touches it from what I understand, other then the ushers and the Reverend who blesses it. I don't like the idea of randon "Brothers & Sisters" getting a look a who donated what if they wrote a check.

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Question About Tithing

by Confuzzled in

some of you may have read my post about my lasped jw boyfriend, and his pressure on me to consider to convert eventually (i'm not going too!

) but i still would like to better understand the church and watch tower society better so i can understand this mindset he has.

he makes much to do about the lack of an offering plate, and "the 2 boxes, one for the church, the other for the needy, nobody is put on the spot to donate".

Confuzzled

I'm not playing devil's advocate here, but my Episcopalian church was endowed with 4 million dollars and a mansion after a kindly old dowager with no family just gave everything to the church she loved after she died....but then again, this came as a complete SHOCK to the people and there are provisions in the will about what it can, and cannot be spent on, at what rate it can be spent, ect. I think what they call "Charitable Planning" maybe a common practice,,,but never in my life have I've seen an outline on how to do it......Shame. I hope no one is hounding widows.

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a very weird elder

by asilentone in

i remember an elder in my congregation gave the talk "godly view of sex and marriage" in the 90's.

he was talking about masturbation.

he said to the audience if you have any problems with masturbation, please let him know, he also said please do not be embarrassed.

Confuzzled

Perhaps he was hoping that some women would go confess (or men LOL) so he could get his rocks off by descriptions?

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I need answers to so MANY questions.....

by Confuzzled in

jw
friends

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Confuzzled

Wow, that article on dating a lasped JW was helpful. I'm getting the impression that they have the ability to manipulate even the most resisting of people. I think my BF's trying to convince me to talk to someone though comes out of genuine if not extremely misguided concern. It's hard to reason w/someone who honestly BELIEVESeverything that he's been told. He's had no other exposure to any other religion, or hardly at all. They missioned in the very bad area he grew up in. He says that the only people who ever offered to teach him about the Lord were JW's, and I feel guilty on a human level about that. I have a Jamacian friend who grew up Catholic and grew up weathly on the island, and she says they run rampant over there in impoverished areas. I guess it is easier to manipulate ppl who think they have nothing to believe in.

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Question About Tithing

by Confuzzled in

some of you may have read my post about my lasped jw boyfriend, and his pressure on me to consider to convert eventually (i'm not going too!

) but i still would like to better understand the church and watch tower society better so i can understand this mindset he has.

he makes much to do about the lack of an offering plate, and "the 2 boxes, one for the church, the other for the needy, nobody is put on the spot to donate".

Confuzzled

He makes a decent living, and I often wonder if he got baptized if he would be asked for more "donations" if the church got wind of his paycheck, properties, and vehicles.

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I need answers to so MANY questions.....

by Confuzzled in

jw
friends

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Confuzzled

I must admit, a lot of this is really interesting, but also horribly sad and disturbing.

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Aluminum Poisoning by Charles T. Betts - download link

by VM44 in

charles truax betts was a dentist that wrote about the dangers of aluminum poisoning.. many of his articles were published in the golden age magazine during the 1920's and 1930's.. he wrote a book with the title "aluminum poisoning", the second edition being published in 1928.. it may be obtained at this webpage:.

file name: betts_aluminum_poisoning_2ed.pdf.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/h8wuuz.

Confuzzled

SATAN'S METAL?????????????? You've got to be kidding me.... I realize these articles are old, but OMG.....Is that something that the members of the organization believe today? I'd be curious to know if there are other bizarre fears that the WT fed into....That is INSANE a religious organization would spend that much time on something like that....LOL they were published back when kids were chewing on lead paint chips, and they were were worried about ALUMINUM?

(BTW, it may have a grain of truth, I have heard aluminum zircomnium in anti-perspirant may cause breast cancer, but I've never stopped using it)

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Question About Tithing

by Confuzzled in

some of you may have read my post about my lasped jw boyfriend, and his pressure on me to consider to convert eventually (i'm not going too!

) but i still would like to better understand the church and watch tower society better so i can understand this mindset he has.

he makes much to do about the lack of an offering plate, and "the 2 boxes, one for the church, the other for the needy, nobody is put on the spot to donate".

Confuzzled

I kinda figured that. I don't understand how they can be so tolerant of perverts when it says in the Bible that if you hurt a child let it be like a millstone around your neck, but every religion has issues with people who take advantage of children, some just seem more tolerant of others...But that's besides the point of my question. I hate the fact that it seems like people who don't have 2 cents to rub together, and they expect ppl to not work on there careers and make more money for their families, and then expect them to tithe anyway.

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I need answers to so MANY questions.....

by Confuzzled in

jw
friends

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Confuzzled

I know about the women not talking in church, it was one of the verses he had me compare and it is true, it is there. But it also says your head is supposed to be covered in church, and nothing says anything about skirts being required, but again beating a dead horse. There is something to be said for following the Bible to the letter, but the Lord isn't stupid, I don't think he cares who speaking the Gospel as long as someone is telling it.

He claims they live like the first church (He always says "they" because he doesn't feel worthy of the title JW), and I said if you want to live like the first church, I sugest you move to Lancaster, PA and become a Mennonite or Amish. He accused me of "Being down for your religion, and not Jehovah", but from what you generous people have told me it seems like the cult does exactly that, worship 9 old, filthy, rich men in Brooklyn.

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I need answers to so MANY questions.....

by Confuzzled in

jw
friends

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Confuzzled

I'm not buying into it. I can't. I think I am far to rebellious anyway! But I've been w/this person for a year off and on but I have been his friend for six years or there abouts that explains why I haven't met Mom, we weren't exclusive until recently, he only brings "serious" women home to Mama. I think it's odd I couldn't meet her before all this, but wants to shuffle me off to KH with her. She knows about me though, has seen my pictures and I hinks I'm pretty but I suspect she was disappointed I'm white (he's Puerto Rican). I was fine not meeting her though, frankly i like it, I don't have to win her over, ect. But that's besides the point. I know he feels guilty and like a hypocrite. i.e., celebrates all holidays, boozing, whoring, ect. lol. As I have mentioned, this has come up before, but I think he gets distracted and falls off the guilt wagon.

Why do they always want you to talk to someone else? I thought maybe in his case it was because simply didn't have the answers, and I know this is true because he really doesn't, but it seems ike every potential new convert gets shuffled along to somebody else.