Posts by KingDavidwasframed

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Overheard at Airport

by KingDavidwasframed in

while in line at the tsa pat down line i overheard 2 women talking about how they couldn't (or shouldn't) eat pepperoni pizza from a certain national chain because they heard from a cousin of a friend in a neighboring congregation (i never got the whole chain of source info) that the meat ingredients listed "animal by-products" and how everyone knows that means blood.. .

well i couldn't help myself, so i leaned over the velvet rope separating us and i excused myself for eavesdropping and asked "are you 2 young ladies jehovah's witnesses?".

to which they blushed, giggled a little and replied "yes".

KingDavidwasframed

Sorry Ding, it was a joke I wrote this morning when I was thinking about why I didn't like Pizza Pizza (a Canadian Pizza chain). It all boiled down to a similar conversation I remember 3 sisters having in a car out in service some 18-20 years ago and I thought about how stupid it was and how much JW's gossip about BS while they are out in service. And the whole "fractions" thing over the last 8-10 years or so just makes it all that funnier :D Setting the joke at the airport just made it convenient to overhear a non-issue JW conversation.

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Overheard at Airport

by KingDavidwasframed in

while in line at the tsa pat down line i overheard 2 women talking about how they couldn't (or shouldn't) eat pepperoni pizza from a certain national chain because they heard from a cousin of a friend in a neighboring congregation (i never got the whole chain of source info) that the meat ingredients listed "animal by-products" and how everyone knows that means blood.. .

well i couldn't help myself, so i leaned over the velvet rope separating us and i excused myself for eavesdropping and asked "are you 2 young ladies jehovah's witnesses?".

to which they blushed, giggled a little and replied "yes".

KingDavidwasframed

While in line at the TSA pat down line I overheard 2 women talking about how they couldn't (or shouldn't) eat pepperoni pizza from a certain national chain because they heard from a cousin of a friend in a neighboring congregation (I never got the whole chain of source info) that the meat ingredients listed "animal by-products" and how everyone knows that means blood.

Well I couldn't help myself, so I leaned over the velvet rope separating us and I excused myself for eavesdropping and asked "Are you 2 young ladies Jehovah's Witnesses?"

To which they blushed, giggled a little and replied "Yes"

I then went on to say, "You know, I used to work for that company and I happen to know exactly what you are talking about"

"Oh dear!" they exclaimed and then asked "Is it true?"

I leaned in closer and looked over my shoulders back and forth to make sure no one else was listening in to hear the secret I was about to share with them, I nodded and said "Yes, it is true. There is some blood in the pepperoni......and the sausage too..." I pulled back, looked around again one more time, leaned in again and then quieted their fears by qualifying my statements "But don't worry.." I continued, "They only use fractions"

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How long did Conventions used to be?

by donuthole in

i remember as a child in the 1980's attending four day conventions.

i know in the past conventions were even longer.

does anyone know how long they use to last and the approximate years?

KingDavidwasframed

I remember Montreal in 77 I think. We stayed in the tent city with the army style showers in the train yard. It was long enough I remember.

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Immediate accidental sex

by rebel8 in

there was a thread here some time ago with a title something like this.

it was about the wts' silly teachings about chaperones needing to be present every single moment to prevent couples from having sex, as though sex is something that happens instantly and accidentally.. i saw this today and thought of that thread.here for more.. *on 2nd thought....i am not sure the pics would meet posting guidelines...so click the above link.

it's a few comic strips depicting silly scenes in which "immediate accidental sex" happened.

KingDavidwasframed

Nice!

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Seeking Reinstatement

by Quendi in

no, i'm not seeking to be reinstated so don't worry.

but i did want to raise a point in relation to this.

i know this was true in my case and i've seen it in others i have talked to about this.

KingDavidwasframed

Agreed

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PART 2 - PESTILENCE - How The Watchtower Distorts Facts and Builds Fear

by KingDavidwasframed in

wt quotes are taken from their own website so as not to be out of context as the jdub apologists will cry out.

http://www.watchtower.org/e/20060915/article_02.htm.

watchtower writes there will be .

KingDavidwasframed

Thank- you 00DAD, I did not know that

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PART 2 - PESTILENCE - How The Watchtower Distorts Facts and Builds Fear

by KingDavidwasframed in

wt quotes are taken from their own website so as not to be out of context as the jdub apologists will cry out.

http://www.watchtower.org/e/20060915/article_02.htm.

watchtower writes there will be .

KingDavidwasframed

Did not mean for that to be all bold - nothing meant by it

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PART 2 - PESTILENCE - How The Watchtower Distorts Facts and Builds Fear

by KingDavidwasframed in

wt quotes are taken from their own website so as not to be out of context as the jdub apologists will cry out.

http://www.watchtower.org/e/20060915/article_02.htm.

watchtower writes there will be .

KingDavidwasframed

To comment on 00DAD's post, Yes, I agree totally. It is more than mere coincidence that the richer you are, the healthier (and in today's world) the longer you will look better than compared to people living in poverty. Access to better health care, less time working with more time for recreational exercise and affordability of vanity operations all contributes.

Also, I notice that those in affluent neighborhoods spend less money on items that will not return on investment such as tattoos and piercings. However, I feel they use just as much (if not more) drugs and alcohol. I do notice though that there are very few tobacco smokers among the rich compared to the poor.

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PART 2 - PESTILENCE - How The Watchtower Distorts Facts and Builds Fear

by KingDavidwasframed in

wt quotes are taken from their own website so as not to be out of context as the jdub apologists will cry out.

http://www.watchtower.org/e/20060915/article_02.htm.

watchtower writes there will be .

KingDavidwasframed

The argument JW's use about things being worse in the last days would be like me propheseying "in 20 years, there will be a Starbucks on every corner"

Every generation (I'm talking about generation in the everyday sense that normal people use it now), has complained about the future generation being worse. And yet all signs point to people living longer and healthier.

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PART 2 - PESTILENCE - How The Watchtower Distorts Facts and Builds Fear

by KingDavidwasframed in

wt quotes are taken from their own website so as not to be out of context as the jdub apologists will cry out.

http://www.watchtower.org/e/20060915/article_02.htm.

watchtower writes there will be .

KingDavidwasframed

WT quotes are taken from their own website so as not to be “out of context” as the JDub apologists will cry out. http://www.watchtower.org/e/20060915/article_02.htm

WATCHTOWER WRITES “There will be . . . in one place after another pestilences,” said Jesus. ( Luke 21:11 ) Medical science today is more advanced than ever before. Still, both old and new diseases continue to ravage mankind. A U.S. National Intelligence Council document states: “Twenty well-known diseases—including tuberculosis (TB), malaria, and cholera—have reemerged or spread geographically since 1973, often in more virulent and drug-resistant forms. At least 30 previously unknown disease agents have been identified since 1973, including HIV, Ebola, hepatitis C, and Nipah virus, for which no cures are available.” According to a Red Cross report of June 28, 2000, during the preceding year, the number of people who died from infectious diseases was about 160 times greater than the number who died in natural disasters.

SENSATIONALISM – when defined under journalism is defined: sensationalism: extreme reportorial style intended to arouse readership interest based on emotional appeal, often with questionable accuracy

Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/sensationalism#ixzz1a74EtcP3

The WT uses sensationalist writing to scare their readers into trusting in their leadership – namely that they are Christ’s chosen spokesman to deliver His message in “these” last days.

Let’s now look at some REAL facts.

AVERAGE LIFE EXPECTANCY (ALE): http://filipspagnoli.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/life-expectancy-through-the-ages.jpg

If you lived in Jesus and the apostles time (from 500BC to 500AD) you could expect to live to about 35. Any longer and you were on “borrowed” time. Why?? Well, let’s see, TB, typhoid fever, small pox and scarlet fever for one (aren’t they all pestilences too?? I’m confused - NOT) and then those pesky Romans would just go out and kill you and your family if you didn’t let them rule you. Plus, police were not what they are today (another topic – another day).

How about the Medieval Period – you know the “Dark Ages”? Early on in the period, 48 was a promising ALE but they never had Matlock back then so was it really living??? Maybe that’s why it shrunk to 38 near the end (they also didn’t have Viagra back then so why would you WANT to live past 40???). “Historians” (You know those guys who can’t accurately tell when Jerusalem fell and then was ordered to be rebuilt) blame poor living conditions and the Black Plague as big killers back then dropping life expectancy down to 38. Personally, I think it was the women – could you imagine sleeping with them back then before Budweiser and implants – not to mention toothpaste (shudder) – I’m sure the ladies out there could say the same for us men. Moving on....

The Victorian Era gave mankind till 40 on average. Again – it was the damn pestilence’s fault for cutting people down in their prime. But hope was on its way because in just over half a century Corvettes and blondes in mini-skirts would give man a reason to live past 40............

By 1950, science had helped citizens of the world the benefit of an ALE of a whopping 70 years for men and 75 for women (Damn you Noxzema!!!!) That is at least DOUBLE then what was expected when Jesus was born.

And today? How about a little number like 82 years for men and 85 for women (Axe and Gillete are getting smarter products for men – we’re catching up to the ladies).

So how is it that the Watchtower can make blanket statements like “old and new diseases continue to ravage mankind.”?? Perhaps it is because they do not want you to feel safe. Maybe they can’t check history out for themselves? Maybe they don’t want to? Perhaps they like having their minions stay in line.

Comments like “According to a Red Cross report of June 28, 2000, during the preceding year, the number of people who died from infectious diseases was about 160 times greater than the number who died in natural disasters” are designed to make you think that the great SARS monster is going to eat you up if you do not have the Watchtower’s protection. When you read that statement above, ask yourself this “How many people died in natural disasters in 1999?” I mean, yes infectious diseases DO kill people, but if 1000 people died from natural disasters, then 160,000 does not really seem as bad as “160 times” a number you do not know. And if out of those 160,000 (theoretical number only), how many were “old” people anyway? I mean, how many were dying anyway and a disease got the blame instead of the clock running out? The Watchtower is banking on the fact that most of their readers WILL NOT ask these questions when they read such sensationalist comments. They are counting on their followers to get scared more and hold on to “Mommy Organizations” hand tighter.

And what about World populations compared to epidemic outbreaks?? Between 1347 and 1352 in Europe 25 million people died of the Black Plague. That was 1 person out of every 3!!!! Even cancer isn’t hitting that many people (unless you are a smoker but I believe even with that the odds are better).

The Watchtower is hoping that they can scare their readers into trusting them by using past examples like this and sensationalist reporting.

All I ask is that people think for themselves and do not take one person’s word (or an organization’s word) for the basis of their whole life. Life a happy, loving life – not one of fear!

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