Posts by godrulz

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The trouble with Christianity. TRINITY.

by whereami in

gotta love pat.. "ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions.

ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity.

it is the mere abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of jesus.

godrulz

We need to be more precise. Being/essence/nature/substance/ontology refers to the stuff of God (He is spirit, not matter; Jn. 4:24). Distinct beings of same nature is a contradiction and sounds too much like Mormonism's polytheism/tritheism=3 distinct beings/gods. The triune understanding is ONE being/nature/essence/substance with 3 personal distinctions (3 beings implies 3 different natures/gods)/3 conscious centers who are co-equal, co-essential, co-eternal. There is one nature/being of God (uncreated spirit) with 3 personal distinctions making up this one being (the Father is God, the Son is God, the Holy Spirit is God, yet they are distinct in another sense with the Father not being the person of the Son, the Son not the Spirit, and the Father is not the Holy Spirit. He is unique with absolute oneness and absolute distinction, yet indivisible. 3 beings in one being, 3 gods in 1 god, 3 persons in 1 person are contradictions; one God/being with 3 personal distinctions is not (since they are one in one way and distinct in another way).

This understanding is the only and best summary of the evidence/parameters, not contrived, but true.

Labels help summarize a belief system. It is label to say Judaism, Christianity, Islam are monotheistic religions. So? It is a true descriptive label that communicates that they are not polytheistic religions like Mormonism or Hinduism.

Just because JWs are doctrinally wrong is not a reason to avoid precise, biblical, theological doctrine. Paul, under the inspiration of the Spirit emphasized sound doctrine (orthodoxy) and sound practice (orthopraxy). Jesus also was specific about doctrine of resurrection (siding with Pharisees vs Sadducees, etc.).

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The trouble with Christianity. TRINITY.

by whereami in

gotta love pat.. "ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions.

ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity.

it is the mere abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of jesus.

godrulz

PS: are you a modalist/oneness then? Arian, modalist, trinitarian are the main options.

209

The trouble with Christianity. TRINITY.

by whereami in

gotta love pat.. "ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions.

ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity.

it is the mere abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of jesus.

godrulz

The object of our faith is important. We cannot just believe in generic jesus of our own idol making. Islam, WT, Mormon, New Age, Hindu, etc. jesus does not exist and cannot save. We must confess Him as Lord, Lord God (Pauline intent) to be saved (Rom. 10:9-10 cf. Is. passage in context and Phil. 2). We do not need to understand the trinity to be saved, but we do need to trust the real, true Jesus vs a counterfeit Christ (2 Cor. 11:4) that is worthless. Many false messiahs ran around in Jesus' day. He warned about them and those who trusted them vs Him were damned.

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Struggling

by anniegirl76 in

jw
friends

i have been df-ed for almost 9 years.

just out of curiosity, has anyone decided to find another religion or belief after being jw?

i struggle with my feelings, my mom and brother, aunt, cousins are all jw.

godrulz

I don't want to cause JWs to stumble with my Christmas tree avatar I did not choose?!

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I am a sheep in wolves' clothing

by Anony Mous in

since i'm not getting out of the jw cult any time soon due to my position and family i decided to do a little contra-action.

maybe some of you can share your stories, experiences and let me know how far you kicked it before you either left or got booted.

my intention is to get people thinking.. - a couple of weeks ago i had a demonstration on stage.

godrulz

F and DS? You guys have more lingo than the military.

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The trouble with Christianity. TRINITY.

by whereami in

gotta love pat.. "ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions.

ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity.

it is the mere abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of jesus.

godrulz

Interesting. Not an argument for the Deity of Christ that I have heard before. Jesus is equal with the Father, but depended on the Spirit as the Son of Man. This does not mean He was not equal as the Son of God (one person with two natures, the God-Man).

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Struggling

by anniegirl76 in

jw
friends

i have been df-ed for almost 9 years.

just out of curiosity, has anyone decided to find another religion or belief after being jw?

i struggle with my feelings, my mom and brother, aunt, cousins are all jw.

godrulz

How do I get rid of my dumb avatar?

209

The trouble with Christianity. TRINITY.

by whereami in

gotta love pat.. "ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions.

ideas must be distinct before reason can act upon them; and no man ever had a distinct idea of the trinity.

it is the mere abracadabra of the mountebanks calling themselves the priests of jesus.

godrulz

For all the Catholic criticism, the popes of the WT (Russell, Rutherford, Knorr, GB Ted Jaracz, etc.) have been no better or worse.

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An explanation for the increase in anointed

by pirata in

remember, if you see this in the watchtower, or hear it in a talk, you heard it here first .

evidently, since we are so close to end of this system of things, god has seen it fitting to fill the final spots held open for the 144,000.. there.

simple, elegant, and doesn't require an overhaul of the 144,000 jw belief..

godrulz

There are hundreds of millions of anointed sons of God. The WT is stupid, clueless on this caste system teaching. The blood of Christ fully saves all who call on Him (Jn. 14:1-2 we will be with him in heaven, not cleaning up this pig pen).

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New Way of Doing Field Service?

by snowbird in

as i was driving to work this morning, i saw a familiar looking car a few yards ahead of me that kept making stops where people were standing alongside the roadway.. when i drove past the people, i noticed wt and awake!

in their hands.. well, lo and behold, this jw woman to whom i once referenced in the link below was "placing" literature with them!.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/191371/1/a-visit-from-the-reformed-village-strumpet.

godrulz

In the 80s, I used to go downtown in our city to witness to the JWs (and tie them up). They would go during the work hour rush and stand on the corner like robots holding up the magazines (hardly relational evangelism). I imagine they could count the time and then head off to work. I had great conversations and would usually just show a verse in the NWT that did not support their view. One time, the power of the Spirit was evident as I showed a Deity of Christ verse that they had no answer to. The conviction and convincing of the Spirit was there (anointing), but they attributed what they sensed to the devil (JWs are afraid of too many things). They packed up and left. They used to call me Bible Bill (first name) because I would wield the sword of the Spirit instead of just holding up manmade magazine covers. Do witnesses still stand on street corners like robots or did they clue in that this was not really effective and just made them look robotic and brainwashed? At least they were trying to do something (even if wrong reasons and false gospel), more than many of my fellow believers ever do.