Posts by godrulz

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2011 District Convention "Let Us Be Bored and Confused Into Obedience"

by ranmac in

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friends

this has already been discussed but i need to vent.. i just spent the most painful weekend of my life sitting thru this years dc.

what an unbelievably pointless, soulless and demeaning spectacle the assemblies are.

the three days were a blur of monotanous droning and brainwashing.

godrulz

I will correct something that I am wrong or unclear about. It is news to me that Mary was 12 when she was pregnant. The Bible does not say this, so give me some concrete evidence. As someone who has relatives that have been sexually abused, I have stood to have the legal age raised from 14 to 16 (completed, but still short of what is right). I do not support sex with 12 year old girls and have said that Muhammad was a pedophile, as was Joseph Smith, etc. Outlaw is not being reasonable. Just because I commented about the weather on one thread does not mean my message has not been about Christ primarily. I have not told anyone to join the Pentecostal church, but I have made comments in the face of personal attack on this issue. Outlaw is distorting things and should be taken to task, not me (just like he said I lied about the DVD at Convention and had to be corrected by other ex-JWs of the plausibility of my story).

I am not the issue. Deal with my content and Christ instead of character assassination without basis.

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Theology

by sabastious in

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friends

theology is the study of religion and religions are human systems of spirituality.

it could then be said that theology is the study of the applications of human spirituality.

human spirituality is a chosen way of life.

godrulz

Those who think that the OT God is wrathful and the NT God is nice/merciful don't know God or the Bible. There is great mercy and patience in the OT, in addition to wrath. The greatest wrath of God is seen in Revelation from the God-Man, Jesus. God is loving, merciful, AND Holy/Just. People like to tame God and see Him as love only divorced from His holiness. The Bible does not sugar coat things and gives accurate revelation of His dealings with man, in mercy and in wrath. You guys don't see the holiness of God and your own sinfulness, so you dismiss His justice and very existence. This does not cut it because you will still give account to Him (hence the desperate need to be hid in Christ vs naked) whether you believe in or understand Him or not. The Bible does not defense nor does God. It stands as truth, so learn to interpret and accept it instead of dissing it as if you are a god.

Believers do not have a problem with anything in the Bible. It is the self-rigtheous skeptics that think they know better than God.

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2011 District Convention "Let Us Be Bored and Confused Into Obedience"

by ranmac in

jw
friends

this has already been discussed but i need to vent.. i just spent the most painful weekend of my life sitting thru this years dc.

what an unbelievably pointless, soulless and demeaning spectacle the assemblies are.

the three days were a blur of monotanous droning and brainwashing.

godrulz

Is this reasonable, outlet? On a topic about Pentecostalism, I certainly did share my view on it and defended my beliefs and practices. On another thread about cookies, I may have made a comment about cookies. On another one about baseball, I might say something about baseball. In context (you seem to have left over prooftexting out of context issues from WT days), my PRIMARY message has been calling people to Christ, NOT to join my church and NOT how to speak in tongues, etc. I have not told people to become Pentecostal. I have told them to become Christian. If this forum would allow editing, I would go back and add more clarification for people like you with a nit picking agenda. The mature thing to do is ask for clarification, not try to make a straw man trap and ad hominem argument like Pharisees who could not stand up to Christ's integrity and wisdom.

This was not the issue I seek apology for. You implied that I lied about the DVD refusal/offer, going to convention in jeans and having no one talk to me, etc. I have not lied about anything, but you are reading my posts like infallible Scripture. Most reasonable people would not make stupid accusations like you are. BTW, how old are you? 20? I am a fair, reasonable person. You are anything but...if I word a post imperfectly (subject to your bias and subjective interpretation) when I am tired, hasty, etc., why nail me to a wall? I am particular about spelling even, but again, I can't edit nor could I be bothered to proof read all my posts for egg shell people like you.

No offense, no defense.

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my take on this weekends Assembly

by TheLoveDoctor in

adgrpid:|servtype: google_ad_section_start to the making of many books is worrisome as the bible says yet the last time we received a ypa book it was 2008 volume 1, 2 now this weekend we received volume 1 revised.

wow and so many are excited about us killing so many trees to repeat the same thing over and over again.

i need to vent a bit and could easily get on to many issues of wtbts and its goober body.

godrulz

I agree that FSM is a myth.

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Theology

by sabastious in

jw
friends

theology is the study of religion and religions are human systems of spirituality.

it could then be said that theology is the study of the applications of human spirituality.

human spirituality is a chosen way of life.

godrulz

Jesus did not rebuke the OT, considered it the Word of God, quoted it with authority, and lived as a Jew. What He did do was rebuke the false interpretations/applications of the religious Pharisees who distorted its true teachings/intent by adding, twisting, etc. (cf. JWs).

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my take on this weekends Assembly

by TheLoveDoctor in

adgrpid:|servtype: google_ad_section_start to the making of many books is worrisome as the bible says yet the last time we received a ypa book it was 2008 volume 1, 2 now this weekend we received volume 1 revised.

wow and so many are excited about us killing so many trees to repeat the same thing over and over again.

i need to vent a bit and could easily get on to many issues of wtbts and its goober body.

godrulz

wobble, I commend you for your bold step in doing the right thing; I hope to someday be able to call you brother in Christ, an even bolder step for you.

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2011 District Convention "Let Us Be Bored and Confused Into Obedience"

by ranmac in

jw
friends

this has already been discussed but i need to vent.. i just spent the most painful weekend of my life sitting thru this years dc.

what an unbelievably pointless, soulless and demeaning spectacle the assemblies are.

the three days were a blur of monotanous droning and brainwashing.

godrulz

If I was engaging people, they would probably have taken notice. Most people did not give me eye contact or were in their little clique. You would think someone would have tried to find out why I was there and if I was a potential convert or an opposer, etc. If they have the truth, they should not be afraid to feel me out and possibly book a study later (I did not want to disrupt their special convention time). I am always more willing to study until Armageddon (though I won't be here) than a JW who generally runs in fear (with lies that they will be back with answers but never return) when they cannot answer or their worldview becomes threatened with facts about WT. I imagine many are just putting in time and really don't have the love and perseverance to work with a harder target (though I also don't waste time on an argumentative person who is unreasonable; I am reasonable in that I ask a good question, give supportive evidence, and then wait with no response offered because they can't).

I take back the comment about fat people (I am overweight myself). I do look at the heart and would reach out to all people regardless of outward appearance. I actually had most compassion for the wheel chair people or more unclean ones with cheaper clothes (perhaps not JWs).

Outlaw, should you not apologize for calling me a liar? What is so hard to believe about one guy not giving me a DVD (he almost did until he asked an older person) and another one giving me one (because he made an independent decision)?

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Is Matthew 24 future or fulfilled?

by Vanderhoven7 in

i believe the wts has completely misapplied matthew 24:1-35. .

i believe the scripture is quite clear that jesus was speaking to his own generation and not some obscure future or 1914 generation.. if you happen to be a jw and/or futurist, what makes you believe jesus was talking about events that would transpire in the 20th/21st century?.

vander.

godrulz

Preterism relies on a wrong allegorical approach (subjective), whereas futurism is based on the normative literal approach to interpretation (that still recognizes symbols, figures of speech).

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WHY have District Conventions??

by RagingBull in

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friends

during sunday's program of the dc..."donations" came up and there was mention of using "debit and credit cards" wow!....

so i started thinking... we have an assembly hall in our town?

10 mins from where we have our conventions.

godrulz

Penton confirms that they are big money makers beyond expenses, partially thx to free slave labor for meals, etc.

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Theology

by sabastious in

jw
friends

theology is the study of religion and religions are human systems of spirituality.

it could then be said that theology is the study of the applications of human spirituality.

human spirituality is a chosen way of life.

godrulz

Sab: God judged the immorality of Israel and godless nations in the OT harshly. The Law was there and the Lawgiver enforced it. We are not under theocratic Israel now, so grace is an even higher standard.

Wobble: Textual criticism ensures that the original language MSS we have for translation are 99% reflective of the originals with no significant minor variant affecting any doctrine and practice. Don't underestimate the sovereignty and providence of God.