Jehovah is a demon of a very ancient mythology, pre-Babylonian.
What exactly is this "Jehovah's Day" that is going to come from a psychotic, genocidal maniac?
Bring it on biatch.
jehovahs day comes at this moment and u realize u were in the right place but because of leaving you are now doomed.
would everything gained (temporary) enjoyment worth it?.
Jehovah is a demon of a very ancient mythology, pre-Babylonian.
What exactly is this "Jehovah's Day" that is going to come from a psychotic, genocidal maniac?
Bring it on biatch.
ok, how is it that a guy with an awful voice, speech you cant understand, goofy twitches onstage, looks like a homeless man, and a primal scream who only does cover songs be so popular???.
1. shelter me.
2. let's go get stoned - a ray charles tune woodstock version.
With a little help from my friends (Woodstock)
LOVE that song
i saw a beatles thread was started about favorite songs- so i thought i'd start several threads on other groups who were very important in rock and rolls development !
here are my favorites from led zeppelin, kind of in order.. .
1. stairway to heaven.
No Contest
Kashmir, the live version
One of the best songs every written
you are told that if you "go back to the vomit" of the world, you will be miserable.. is your life better or worse since you've removed yourself from the organization's hold?.
igadsden
God is not a liar, the people who claim to speak on God's behalf are liars, especially the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society.
i know what the witness response is to this but what do you say now?.
PS,
This is the problem I have with Christains. First they say, "I can explain God". And I'm like, "okay, go for it". Then they talk about 1 John 4:8 how God is love and how god is all powerful, all knowing, all wise, et al.
Then I pose a contraction to this description and the answer is 'well we cannot possibly understand god".
In which case why did they come to me in the first place telling me they could explain ANYTHING about god?
It is completely preposterous.
Sort of like if I came to you and said "I can explain gravity, gravity makes everything stay put", and then your car starts floating away and you say "BUT WAIT A MINUTE, you said gravity makes everything stay put and my car is floating away", and I say "well gravity is really not something we can understand, gravity probably has a reason for not wanting to keep your car from floating away, we just can't understand the reason".
you would think you were talking to Mad Dawg if I said something like that.
i know what the witness response is to this but what do you say now?.
Min, I agree that the discussion of Attenborough is immaterial. I was pointing out the ignorance of one who claimed to have done “scholarly research”. His research was so thorough that he didn’t know he was parroting Sir David. There are, of course, no qualifications, to post comments on a subject on this board. But, when one has no clue what they are talking about, I will point it out.
MD,
So, first you said that you could totally discount the river blindness example that I gave because it came from Sir David. Now you are saying that because I have not read the materials that you said you could completely discount that I am not scholarly enough to pose an example? So, are Sir David materials indispensible to use the river blindness disease as an example of god's inaction to relieve suffering or not? Make up your mind.
The river blindness disease is something I know a great deal about, so I'm not sure what it is that you are saying I know nothing about.
What you are basically saying is that I am too stupid to pose a clarifying scenario to a rather general premise.
So, what is it that I have no clue what I am talking about?
my wife yesterday was talking about how useless it really is to feed the hungry and provide cold weather shelters since the problem will not go away until the 'new system of things'.. i know that at one time jesus does state that there will be poor always, but a key aspect of his ministry on earth was helping the less fortunate.
how does the wts justify the discouragement of its rank and file from performing acts of community service, when the 'greatest man who ever lived' was so active in it?.
THis is really easy to understand in the context of things like the parking lot scandal, the real estate development business that the WTBTS runs in Brooklyn, the "voluntary donation arrangement" backed up by Watchtower articles and Kingdom Ministry articles that berate the JWs and tell them that they are sinning against God if they don't give the proper amount in donations.
The WTBTS claims that the door to door preaching work IS the highest form of community service and trivilizes all other forms of community service because the door to door work brings IN money and other forms of community service COST money.
The WTBTS has a multi billion dollar revenue stream and almost no expenses. Why upset that with providing community services?
i know what the witness response is to this but what do you say now?.
Jeff,
I still haven't seen anyt posts from any of the religionists that even attempted to address Minimus question. Most of the posts in this thread are attacks on me because I posted an example that would focus the discussion on Minimus' question.
Now this MD character is saying that I'm not qualified to post an example because I am not a theologan.
I'm done with this stupiditiy.
i know what the witness response is to this but what do you say now?.
This MD character sure is full of himself, isn't he?
i know what the witness response is to this but what do you say now?.
MD
I am still waiting to read some of your “scholarly research.”
I didn't say I wrote papers for publication, I said I did research. I did this when I had a shipwreck of faith as a JW for my own benefit in order to restore my faith. Needless to say, what I found out had the opposite effect.
You are attempting to belittle me and insinuating that any research I might have done is "not scholarly enough" to matter.
I got a lot of the materials at the university libraries in Nashville Tennessee. Vanderbilt library was particularly useful. Feel free to go there and start reading.
Riiiiight, suuure you did. If someone claims to be a vascular surgeon
I did not claim to BE anything. I said that I have read books in response to a comment by another idiot on here that I obviously have never read any books. (I forget who said that, perhaps it was you).
Are you saying that I have never read any books?
just that your reading did not include anyone qualified to comment on theology.
And you obtained the list of materials that I studied where?