dear brothers:
as you have admitted, the watch tower bible & tract society did join the united nations as a non government organization in 1992 ending in 2001, and according to the following watch tower this means that by their own actions they disassociated them selves from jehovahs organization which means that we must treat them like disfellowshiped ones.
in other words they are no longer jehovahs witnesses or have any right to that name.
Yadirf:
When the WT joined the U.N.they joined an organization who's objectives are contrary to the bible.
When a person joins a union,they join an organization who's objectives are in line with the bible( Pauls words, equalizing with each other,2Cor:8:14.).Otherwise the employers would have the surplus and the employees the deficiency.
So all you rich ones out there, how about it?. We are coming for you.LOL
dear brothers:
as you have admitted, the watch tower bible & tract society did join the united nations as a non government organization in 1992 ending in 2001, and according to the following watch tower this means that by their own actions they disassociated them selves from jehovahs organization which means that we must treat them like disfellowshiped ones.
in other words they are no longer jehovahs witnesses or have any right to that name.
Would all those who read part.1.who do agree with the actions of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society, please inform me where in the Bible(or their publications!!) does it say that it is o.k. to affliate yourself with a political party who maintains that they are the only hope for mankind and not God. Am I wrong in thinking that Jesus was mistaken when commanded his disciples( and after all are we not disciples?) to have nothing to do with the worldly system? Please correct me if wrong. Personally I have never seen an article from the U.N. expecting the Kingdom at any time or indeed having anything whatsoever to say about the Kingdom. Surely the WTBTS condemned themselves by their own publications. We have never condemned them, they did so themselves.
last night(tuesday) an announcement was made in our congregation that my husband and i had disassociated ourselves.
we did no such thing(for personal reasons) nor was any document whatsoever given to the local elders or anyone else.
nevertheless, that is what happened, apparently no letter of resignation is required.
Thank you so much for all your replies and advice, which we intend to do. Firstly, we were never asked to have a meeting at the KH. They had come to our home on occasions after I might add we had requested them not to come and disturb the peace of our household, but then it was me who said it and after all I'm just a woman.!! It was done to us because we asked them to explain an article from a watchtower, this has been posted to the scandal and cover up forum, today Under the title of GB disassociates itself.. We think at this stage we have interested a local reporter but am awaiting his phone call. We also intend to personally give each household( this will take some time of course)a tract setting out the W/T affliation with the U.N. and the consequences that has happened to us. I hope that eventually a courageous lawyer will read our story from somewhere and act for us. We do intend to be involved with the World Class Action, but apparently at this time does not include Australia.Thank you SIMON I never thought for one moment I would ever receive a communication from YOU. WOW!
dear brothers:
as you have admitted, the watch tower bible & tract society did join the united nations as a non government organization in 1992 ending in 2001, and according to the following watch tower this means that by their own actions they disassociated them selves from jehovahs organization which means that we must treat them like disfellowshiped ones.
in other words they are no longer jehovahs witnesses or have any right to that name.
Dear Brothers:
As you have admitted, the Watch Tower Bible & Tract Society did join the United Nations as a non government organization in 1992 ending in 2001, and according to the following Watch Tower this means that by their own actions they disassociated them selves from Jehovahs organization which means that we must treat them like disfellowshiped ones. In other words they are no longer Jehovahs Witnesses or have any right to that name.
*** w81 9/15 23 Disfellowshiping-How to View It *** THOSE WHO DISASSOCIATE THEMSELVES
13 A Christian might grow spiritually weak, perhaps because of not studying Gods Word regularly, having personal problems or experiencing persecution. (1 Cor. 11:30; Rom. 14:1) Such a one might cease to attend Christian meetings. What is to be done? Recall that the apostles abandoned Jesus on the night of his arrest. Yet Christ had urged Peter, When once you have returned, strengthen your brothers [who also abandoned Jesus]. (Luke 22:32) Hence, out of love Christian elders and others might visit and help the one who has grown weak and inactive. (1 Thess. 5:14; Rom. 15:1; Heb. 12:12, 13) It is another matter, though, when a person repudiates his being a Christian and disassociates himself.
14 One who has been a true Christian might renounce the way of the truth, stating that he no longer considers himself to be one of Jehovahs Witnesses or wants to be known as one. When this rare event occurs, the person is renouncing his standing as a Christian, deliberately disassociating himself from the congregation. The apostle John wrote: They went out from us, but they were not of our sort; for if they had been of our sort, they would have remained with us.1 John 2:19.
15 Or, a person might renounce his place in the Christian congregation by his actions, such as by becoming part of an organization whose objective is contrary to the Bible, and, hence, is under judgment by Jehovah God. (Compare Revelation 19:17-21; Isaiah 2:4.) So if one who was a Christian chose to join those who are disapproved of God, it would be fitting for the congregation to acknowledge by a brief announcement that he had disassociated himself and is no longer one of Jehovahs Witnesses.
16 Persons who make themselves not of our sort by deliberately rejecting the faith and beliefs of Jehovahs Witnesses should appropriately be viewed and treated as are those who have been disfellowshiped for wrongdoing.
So you have a choice either take the easy and broad road (Matthew 7:13) and follow these disassociated ones, or do as we are doing and separating our selves from them and continuing to serve our Sovereign Lord Jehovah to the best of our abilities being faithfull and loyal to the name Jehovahs Witness.
This is why the Watch Tower Bible & Tract Society has no authority over us because it no longer represents anything as far as the true worship of Jehovah God is concerned. They went to the disgusting thing (Matthew24:15) so now is the time to flee to the mountains so to speak or be destroyed with them.
*** w74 1/15 35 Can You Be True to God, Yet Hide the Facts? *** Can You Be True to God, Yet Hide the Facts?
WHAT results when a lie is let go unchallenged? Does not silence help the lie to pass as truth, to have freer sway to influence many, perhaps to their serious harm?
What happens when misconduct and immorality are allowed to go unexposed and uncondemned? Is this not like covering over an infection without any effort to cure it and keep it from spreading?
When persons are in great danger from a source that they do not suspect or are being misled by those they consider their friends, is it an unkindness to warn them? They may prefer not to believe the warning. They may even resent it. But does that free one from the moral responsibility to give that warning?
If you are among those seeking to be faithful to God, the issues these questions raise are vital for you today. Why? Because Gods servants in every period of history have had to face up to the challenge these issues present. They have had to expose falsehood and wrongdoing and warn people of dangers and deceptionnot just in a general way, but in a specific way, in the interest of pure worship. It would have been far easier to keep silent or say only what people wanted to hear. But faithfulness to God and love of neighbor moved them to speak. They realized that better is a revealed reproof than a concealed love.Prov. 27:5.
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last night(tuesday) an announcement was made in our congregation that my husband and i had disassociated ourselves.
we did no such thing(for personal reasons) nor was any document whatsoever given to the local elders or anyone else.
nevertheless, that is what happened, apparently no letter of resignation is required.
Last night(Tuesday) an announcement was made in our congregation that my husband and I had disassociated ourselves. We did no such thing(for personal reasons) nor was any document whatsoever given to the local elders or anyone else. Nevertheless, that is what happened, apparently no letter of resignation is required. Elders can do whatever they like.They are having their reward in full, and the decision regarding them has already been made in heaven, I believe..
ok, i'm being lazy coz i know i could do a search, but i'm in a posting mood, and its nice to get replies!
so.......who on this forum is from england?
i know ballistic, and englishman is.....rumour has it that someone called "simon the almighty" might be.....but maybe thats hearsay....
I am English, living now in Australia.
representatives of the jehovah's witnesses didn't show.
but their work on the former masonic temple at 385 broadway was praised by the commission's executive director, michael wing.. the jehovah's witnesses are cleaning up, repainting and refurbishing the temple in a way that meets their needs for worship but doesn't despoil the building's original intent, said wing.
a large masonic symbol in ornate floor tile has been covered with a circular rug, he said.
In 2001 we met in the local R.S.L. memorial hall on a Sunday morning. The ex soldiers met at another time as did other religions!! Hyprocrites!!
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by chance i came across pauls word at galations.2: verses 3-6 inclusive, does the term rules and regulations ring a bell anyone?
phillips modern english bible, however any bible virtually the same.
By chance I came across Pauls word at Galations.2: verses 3-6 inclusive, does the term Rules and regulations ring a bell anyone? Phillips Modern English bible, however any bible virtually the same.
okay, firstly appologies for it taking me, like a million years to actually get back to you good people.. i was sent a letter back and guess what... standard reply was issued!.
i don't have a scanner (it blew up ages ago!
) but the main body of the letter was the same as i've seen on other threads here.
We too have given documentation to three elders( arrived at my home without invitation) regarding the U.N. however, they more or less said that they will go away and have a meeting on our punishment for critising the WTBTS for affliating with the wild beast'( their words not ours). So it looks as though one of three things will happen, Disapproved, publicly disaproved or disfellowshipping.
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1cor.4:2-4. is he just speaking to the 'holy ones' or is this meant for all of us?
if just for the holy ones, are the hebrews sciptures just meant for the israelites, the greek scruiptures for the holy ones and anything left for the rest of us?
Thank you A Paduan. However, miss out verse. 2. and just read 3 and 4. So does this mean only Jehovah has the right to examine and judge or has he given this duty to others.i.e. to judge and examine or like Paul 'it is a mere nothing if anyone other than Jehovah takes this on.' Where is the scripural authority as there is apparently only one mediator. Also where in the scriptures does it say give yourselves titles.eg. D.O, C.O. Elder. Surely the opposite.
