i prepared a pdf that lists previous statements about the wts's "generations".. please let me know if there are any additional examples.. the file is at:.
http://www.jwstudies.com/2010_change_to_generations.pdf .
doug.
Thanks for raising my bloodpressure. Really though, that's great thanks.
Don't you love how with their use of the words 'evidently', logically, irresisitablly, obviously, as if the 'wrong' previous understanding was on the 'readers' side and they are 'correcting' their wrong understanding with new light!
I would love to hear a district convention talk going over how the light gets brighter and stating the changes of the 'generation'.
does anyone else have the same problem.
when i'm alone, i am constantly thinking about all the clever things i'm going to say if visited by the elders, but when i actually get confronted, these things never come to mind, and i keep spitting out drivel like some dumb idiot.
after they leave, i rethink the conversation, and i'm furious over all the oppotunities i've missed to put them in their place.......damn it!!!!!
JWinprotest, if you do believe in God and he is intervening, may be you need to stay around there for a bit longer or some plan, and he shuts you up.
does anyone else have the same problem.
when i'm alone, i am constantly thinking about all the clever things i'm going to say if visited by the elders, but when i actually get confronted, these things never come to mind, and i keep spitting out drivel like some dumb idiot.
after they leave, i rethink the conversation, and i'm furious over all the oppotunities i've missed to put them in their place.......damn it!!!!!
I have no idea what your trying to say, but I DO feel an outside force sometimes shut my mouth, or even on these online forums, I think of revealing something very interesting I recently found, but then I can't even type a single phrase. I'm taking it in a sense as training. How in the bible said don't rehearse, the spirit will give you in the right time. ALSO, how the spirit kept some from doing things as well. I'm at peace knowing that as messed up as some things are, a lot of it is part of God's plan for redemption and restoration, and I'm just going with the flow. Learning how they say in the scriptures, their conscience bears witness when they are free to do things or not. I do feel it.
isa 29:11-12 and the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, read this, i pray thee: and he saith, i cannot; for it is sealed: and the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, read this, i pray thee: and he saith, i am not learned.. another way of saying this is that the book is sealed to the one who has been taught, but not to the one who hasnt been taught.
the one who hasnt been taught just needs to be taught.. the things that we have been taught can keep us from understanding the bible.
any error in doctrines can keep us in error.
Your making it COMPLICATED.
Breaking it down real easy
The words of not only this prophecy, but many prophecies ARE going to be sealed to most and they will never get true understanding because they are either
A. Taught and lead to believe only what they are taught and shown can be true, that if their teachers don't have it right they can't because its not time or that they don't even understand the wrong understanding of their teachers and assume there is something wrong with them
OR
B. They become like what the WT likes to quote as the Ethiopian Castrate who had no said how can I understand these words if nobody to teach me? (They say that ONE scripture which goes contrary to hundreds showing how you can get instruction by God directly, but that one scripture overrides all that you CAN"T learn the bible and prophesy on your own, when it really was showing that he just had no faith he could understand without being shown and fed 'milk'. If you don't believe or have faith, don't even think you'll get anything. )
It's only those who seek the treasures, who put faith and try to get understanding, at the very least 'verify' everything they believe and not shy away if the holy spirit is trying to correct and show them the correct understanding.
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sink hole in guatemala city caused by the tropical storm.
i seen a view from the top and you couldn't see the bottom.
This is NOT the one from 2007, it's a new diff one. Also, can someone explain how it 'naturally' is so perfect round like it was drilled? How do you get over 100feet of perfect 128 foot diameter straight down?
the watchtower's luxurious aircraft was damaged the first time in 1995:
http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief2.asp?ev_id=20001207x03587&ntsbno=anc95la077&akey=1
"on june 12, 1995, at 1530 alaska daylight time, a wheel equipped cessna 402b airplane, n710ws, registered to and operated by the watchtower bible organization and tract society, collapsed its nose gear while taxiing back after landing.
If this was true, the links have all mentioned parts of the society removed. I guess it was true and they are trying to cover it up? Look at the links on original post vs what was shown in the original post.
we've all seen illustrations of jehovah's happy people living in a utopia lifestyle sharing baskets of fruit, wearing preppy clothing and everyone has a pet grizzly bear or shark, but what about natural disasters?
earthquakes, hurricanes, volcanoes, flash floods, hail, lightning, blizzards, etc are just going to cease to exist?
everyday will be a beautiful 76 degrees with a calm cool breeze from the north?
frigginconfused - the advanced warning is sounding right now, most will not have it because of a test they need to save themselves
ezekiel 29:12. new international version(1984).
i will make the land of egypt desolate among devastated lands, and her cities will lie desolate forty years among ruined cities.
and i will disperse the egyptians among the nations and scatter them through the countries.. new living translation(2007).
This EZ 29 prophecy, is for the future, the very near future.
since she was born in 1887, i am part of her generation since i was alive in 2003 when she died!
yes, i am part of the generations alive since before my great grandfather, because she was alive.
now if you don't understand that, you obviously are just plain stupid, or you don't have the spirit with you, so go out in service more until it makes sense!.
Since she was born in 1887, I am part of HER generation since I was alive in 2003 when she died! Yes, I am part of the generations alive since before my GREAT GRANDFATHER, because she was alive.
Now if you don't understand that, you obviously are just plain stupid, or you don't have the spirit with you, so go out in service more until it makes sense!
we've all seen illustrations of jehovah's happy people living in a utopia lifestyle sharing baskets of fruit, wearing preppy clothing and everyone has a pet grizzly bear or shark, but what about natural disasters?
earthquakes, hurricanes, volcanoes, flash floods, hail, lightning, blizzards, etc are just going to cease to exist?
everyday will be a beautiful 76 degrees with a calm cool breeze from the north?
The only reason for the death and destruction, is because of how things are built. Look at how cheap homes are made, no wonder they get torn up in a storm. If living forever, I'm sure would build things to withstand that stuff.
Some of those things, also think are nature's cleanup. Hurricanes, ice storms, break up and cut down dead/weak branches, etc. Most problems from most these things is man's fault, not all, but most of them.
