Posts by EndofMysteries

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Would this make you doubt?

by dgp in

recently, confuzzled (hi!

) opened a thread about a seed of doubt that she planted on her "dubby" (her word; a nice one, confuzzled).

i want to copy a few paragraphs for you guys, just to know if this would have made you question your beliefs when you were dubbies.

Okay......as of late, here is a really 'different' theory I have as a possibility on this all. First of all, it is the same paradox, Muslim, Jew, Christian all supposedly for the same God, yet against eachother. Why are they fighting, they are all for the same God, but they see eachother as for different ones.

Jeremiah the WHOLE chap 35, he is sent to 'test' the Re′cha·bites, they were commanded by him (Jehovah) NEVER to time indefinite drink wine. Jeremiah told them they were commanded by Jehovah to do it, and they refused. They stayed faithful to his first commands. Jehovah saw that as them being obedient to him.

If that's the case, and then in Duet the song of Moses, Deut 32:8-12, showing the 'sons of adam (human) divided according to the sons of Israel (12), and Israel was Jehovah's 'allotment, inheritance'.

That, combined with Jesus saying he was sent only for the Jews.

If God sent the true message worldwide, to different cultures, and testing everyone to see if they remain faithful to him. To the commands that were given to THEM, not to others. I think in the NT somewhere speaks about in the manner in which one was existing when called, to 'remain' there.

I'll stop there.

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Atheists - how do you feel about magic / demonism?

by EndofMysteries in

curious, as ones not believing in any spirit creatures, would you feel completely at ease performing a summon demon ritual, or using ancient magic words, that absolutely nothing would happen?

or deep down would you have a 'what if' restraint preventing you?

.

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Curious, as ones not believing in any spirit creatures, would you feel completely at ease performing a summon demon ritual, or using ancient magic words, that absolutely nothing would happen? Or deep down would you have a 'what if' restraint preventing you?

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Question to bible readers / truth seekers....

by EndofMysteries in

btw, if you have not been already on this subject and trying to figure it out, your brain will fry trying to comprehend what i'm talking about lol.

my question.......have you noticed a deep secret or truth very strongly hinted in the bible but never heard addressed and not common public understanding?

does it seem that spiritism, magic, communicating with demons, etc, which are heavily forbidden as actually being done most of the time?

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Btw thanks notverylikely, is there a online printout of that? I'm checking if certain books on the whole are contradictory, and kind of split the bible in 2, which may clue in more.

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Question to bible readers / truth seekers....

by EndofMysteries in

btw, if you have not been already on this subject and trying to figure it out, your brain will fry trying to comprehend what i'm talking about lol.

my question.......have you noticed a deep secret or truth very strongly hinted in the bible but never heard addressed and not common public understanding?

does it seem that spiritism, magic, communicating with demons, etc, which are heavily forbidden as actually being done most of the time?

EndofMysteries

I know about all the contradictions, I found many myself just reading. From the angle though that they are not contradictions, but either slipped in 'true apostate' books, or the God of Old Testament is not who everyone is taught he is, as well as the NT, and many other possibilities.

Here are a few reasons why I can't dismiss it as just mans teachings.....................

1. Go outside of the bible, worldwide, even ancient mythology, minus the 'names' of the gods, etc, if you remove all the details to the basic, much of it is almost identical.

2. Egypt, one of the oldest ruins in the world, if you read more about it, the pyramids, what they are, how they were constructed, and their location in relation to the rest of the world, the perfect math, it's not human. Most of what we know today, and the way science has advanced has it's roots to those things. Or where modern day medicine originated, etc. How were 140 ton stone boulders moved and lifted up when no evidence of slavery there?

3. Why do all religions on the root worldwide, teach love/care for neighbor, that an end to the world is coming OR a cycle which the world goes through every few thousand + years.

4. Astronomy - thousands of years ago much more precise then modern day Nasa with their equipment.

Aside from the bible, taking in the big picture, what we know and our roots are from a much more advanced understanding. If you believe in evolution, that would mean man got to his peak few thousand years ago, then got real stupid again, and using the knowledge from a few thousand years ago, the past few centuries due to population started getting a little more smart again.

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I feel so alone within Jw's

by XPeterX in

why won't any jw call me?i always call them and they avoid me or meet me only for study and meetings.they won't even start a conversation with me on msn!i feel somewhat uncomfortable within jw 'friends'.i have prayed a lot about this all of my adolescent years and still no response.did this happen to you too?.

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If your 'not' a troll xpeter, I know how ya feel. I'm currently trying to find a 'network' I match with, in regards to beliefs.

JWs - X

Ex JWs - (so far) X

Athiests - X

Mainstream religions - X

Would say non denominational, but so far they all seem very denominational and based on the preacher.

If a real 'bible students' existed, free, open discussion, trying to learn more and does believe in bible, that would be it.

As for friends in general, look for things involving hobbies or activities you like that are open to public would be my 1st suggestion. Especially since finding out your own beliefs and ones like minded, depending where you end up, can be a long journey.

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Most Ridiculous Thing You've Ever Been Counseled On

by MrFreeze in

i'm sure topics like this have already come up but they tend to get hilarious with the absolute absurdity that goes on in the kh.

i was once counseled for not shaving after two days.

i was also counseled by a sister for eating lucky charms cereal.

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Years ago saw a sister yelled at by another who was video taping a congregation picnic, who said, 'welcome to the 'xxxxxxx' congregation picnic' and was told, "NO IT"S NOT< WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SAY THAT, ITS JUST A GATHERING, THE SOCIETY SAID WE CAN"T HAVE CONGREGATION PICNICS".

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Most Ridiculous Thing You've Ever Been Counseled On

by MrFreeze in

i'm sure topics like this have already come up but they tend to get hilarious with the absolute absurdity that goes on in the kh.

i was once counseled for not shaving after two days.

i was also counseled by a sister for eating lucky charms cereal.

EndofMysteries

WOW Kevin Bacon in the video Gibberin posted!

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Question to bible readers / truth seekers....

by EndofMysteries in

btw, if you have not been already on this subject and trying to figure it out, your brain will fry trying to comprehend what i'm talking about lol.

my question.......have you noticed a deep secret or truth very strongly hinted in the bible but never heard addressed and not common public understanding?

does it seem that spiritism, magic, communicating with demons, etc, which are heavily forbidden as actually being done most of the time?

EndofMysteries

some examples, Moses throwing dust in air to turn into flies, staff just like priests, the copper serpent altar for healing, jesus making something out of dirt and spit to remove blindness, jesus writing on the ground, the ark of covenant and jerusalems temple seemingly like idols, casting lots, those consulted, the visionaries, etc, the ingredients of the 'sacrificial smoke' (think maybe canabis was one)...

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If Samuelsson Is Right about Crucifixion All Lexica Need Revision

by Titus in

if samuelsson is right about crucifixion all lexica need revision.

last friday gunnar samuelsson successfylly defended his thesis "crucifixion in antiquity: an inquiry into the background of the new testament terminology of crucifixion" at gothenburg university (supervisor samuel byrskog).

the external examiner erkki koskenniemi professor of abo university, finland, was drastic in his opening when he said that "if gunnar samuelsson is right, then all lexica will need revision on this point.

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Are you all comparing Jesus as well to Horus of ancient Egypt? .......

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Question to bible readers / truth seekers....

by EndofMysteries in

btw, if you have not been already on this subject and trying to figure it out, your brain will fry trying to comprehend what i'm talking about lol.

my question.......have you noticed a deep secret or truth very strongly hinted in the bible but never heard addressed and not common public understanding?

does it seem that spiritism, magic, communicating with demons, etc, which are heavily forbidden as actually being done most of the time?

EndofMysteries

Btw, if you have not been already on this subject and trying to figure it out, your brain will fry trying to comprehend what I'm talking about lol.

My question.......have you noticed a deep secret or truth very strongly hinted in the bible but never heard addressed and not common public understanding? Does it seem that spiritism, magic, communicating with demons, etc, which are heavily forbidden as actually being done most of the time? Do you see also 2 seemingly different forces against eachother although appearing the same? (example....does Revelation go from 2 distinct forces to possibly be speaking about the same thing? The wild beast almost appearing to be description of Jesus over the 7 congregations, as if either a trick to get people to reject his rule, or vice versa that it is a trick from Satan?

I'm at the heart of the confusion.....it's tied to the 2 annointed ones, the 2 witnesses, the 2 cherubs, the wise cherub that is 'covering' HOW did he 'profane his santuaries?, How did he become 'violent', what were his 'sales goods', it does also somehow match up with solomon who was the wisest and got the riches of the world, the two olive trees, the ark of the covenant, the tree of life and tree of knowledge, is Jehovah the ruler of the world(according to Daniel) or Satan(according to new testament), the mentions of Jehovah as the shepard and savior in old testament, the mentions of the savior from the 'founding' of the world, what 'primary doctrine' did Paul and the early christians 'leave' after getting advanced understanding?

I can't find any other points of view or insight on this to compare with, bring out things I may be overlooking.