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  Proof the anointed aren't being resurrected yet.....

  by EndofMysteries in

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  the society teaches that since around 1919 the anointed who have died and do die, are resurrected as spirit creatures.

  the only one to be resurrected as a spirit that is documented in the bible is jesus.

  when jesus was resurrected, did he appear to his disciples yet his body was still buried?

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  What puzzles me Perry is how they didn't know his face, they had to see the holes in his hand. Why didn't his body w/ the holes look the same?
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  What Armageddon is the book of Revelation refering to?

  by Vienna Angelika in

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  2. beliefs

  someone asked me what revelation was talking about when it mentions armageddon.

  if it's not like witnesses say, then what is it, and when?

  i would really appreciate some info on this as i have not seen too much on this subject..

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  One tidbit to get you started on your quest.....Compare what happens at the end of the 1,000 year reign with the entire chapters of Ez 38 and 39. What is interesting is that the society seems to say Ez 38/39 represent JW's and that happens just around the corner, then after that, after 1,000 years, are the events of the end of the 1,000 year reign in Revelation. But to me both seem to be talking about the same identical event.

  Also it's interesting how in the Ezekiel version, the Israelites are NOT serving God when he returns. And how they were scattered then regrouped as a nation. Paul even talked about the olive tree, how Israelites were temporarily blinded until all the gentiles come in.

  Anyway, if you get into looking that stuff up, it'll open more doors and you'll learn how little the JW's know.
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  Did any bethelites here see first hand books of magic and witchcraft in their library?

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  another thread made me remember hearing rumors of books of witchcraft and such found in if not the main library a restricted library at bethel, for research purposes.

  i wonder if anyone here had seen those first hand and if so, what exactly were the names of the books?

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  What a horrible story. It's disgusting what they do to the older ones. Atleast they let those ones stay, I hear many are just kicked out to live on welfare retirement.
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  Christians please answer something for me

  by confusedandalone in

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  2. beliefs

  or should i say some things.... reading over another thread and a number of other threads i have to ask, why are we making excuses for jesus / god.. how can you fathom and all powerful god who created the universe and all the laws that govern it was not capable of:.

  1. making sure the proper pronunciation of his name is not available.

  2. that all his teaching are not preserved in an easy to discern manner so that ther is no confusion.

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  As God created the world and life, he was also creating and dividing good and evil. Without a seperation there is chaos. If you look deeper into the creation account in Genesis and read it in interlinear, it's not just a physical description of creating planet earth but also of sorting out good and evil, light and darkness, creating order out of chaos.

  Now God wants us to be able to live forever and have free will. However he doesn't want to give immortality to evil creatures.

  If God laid out in just a book of commands what you must do to live forever, an evil person could pass the test, they could refrain, then once immortal they can do damage depending on what God's plan is for those who get immortality.

  One thing I haven't quite figured out fully, is in revelation and other books they do speak of those who are resurrected are then judged based on what they did during their life. As of now I presume that nobody is sinless, so Jesus sacrifice covers those who are actually good, and those who are actually evil are history.

  The WT teaches that anybody who is dead, gets a 2nd chance except those alive during the GT, they teach the scrolls opened and people judged are a new bible and new teachings, but I think those scrolls are a record of their life choices.

  Not knowing and having a clear idea of what to do, and especially those who believe there is no God nor accountability, will show their true colors. Some good, some bad, etc.
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  April 2014 WT is up, more attacks on career and unbelieving family!

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here are some highlights from the magazine.

  the first article, "imitate the faith of moses", teaches how moses didn't remain in pharohs court, they then skillfully spin getting a decent paying job and career as equaling "enjoyment of sin", and how those who have "enjoyment of sin" will die at armageddon with everyone else who enjoys their job.

  here are some quotes from the article.... "when tempted to engage in sinful conduct, ask, what future do i want for myself?....

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  Here are some highlights from the magazine.

  The first article, "Imitate the Faith of Moses", teaches how Moses didn't remain in Pharohs court, they then skillfully spin getting a decent paying job and career as equaling "enjoyment of sin", and how those who have "enjoyment of sin" will die at armageddon with everyone else who enjoys their job.

  Here are some quotes from the article...

  " When tempted to engage in sinful conduct, ask, ‘What future do I want for myself?.... If you are a young servant of Jehovah, how can faith help you to choose a career? You are wise if you plan for the future. But will faith in God’s promises move you to store up for a temporary future or an everlasting one? (Read Matthew 6:19-21.) That question faced a talented ballet dancer named Sophie. She was offered scholarships and coveted positions at ballet companies across the United States. "It was th rilling to be adored. In fact, I felt superior to my peers,” she admits. “But I was unhappy.” Then Sophie watched the video Young People Ask—What Will I Do With My Life? “I realized that the world had given me success and the adoration of fans in exchange for my wholehearted worship of Jehovah,” she says. “I prayed fervently to him. Then I quit my dancing career.” How does she feel about her decision? “I don’t miss my old life. Today, I am 100 percent happy. I pioneer with my husband . We’re not famous, and we have very little materially. But we have Jehovah, Bible students, and spiritual goals.

  (Well Good for you Sofie, you were unhappy having scholarships and opportunities in something you loved to do all across the nation. So you quit all of that, can barely pay the bills, and now you are happy! )

  We likewise have a commission..... All of us have the privilege of declaring the good news. ( Matt. 24:14; 28:19, 20 ) Some serve as full-time ministers. Mature baptized brothers serve others in the congregation as ministerial servants and elders. However, your unbelieving family and others may question the value of these privileges or even reproach you for your self-sacrifice. ( Matt. 10:34-37 ) If they succeed in discouraging you, you could begin to wonder whether your sacrifices are worthwhile or if you can really carry out your assignment.

  Although we have not yet received our reward, our faith is so strong that we keep on waiting patiently for “the payment of the reward.” Like Moses, we do not view any years in Jehovah’s (obeying the GB) service as wasted time.

  I LOVE this next quote, from teh next article, "Do you see the one who is invisible"... " We are convinced that “the hour of judgment” has, indeed, arrived. We also have faith that Jehovah (the GB) has not exaggerated the urgency of our preaching and disciple-making work." By faith, do you see those angels poised to release the destructive winds of the great tribulation on this world? If you see those angels with your eyes of faith, you will be able to share the good news with confidence.

  In the "No One Can Slave for Two Masters", it goes through horrible stories of families having no money and a spouse or parent moving to another country to pay the bills. Or of a couple sending their children to grandparents to raise them since they can't afford to care for them. Then the article brings out how seeking 'riches' ends in those bad situations. So I guess paying the bills and supporting ones family is seeking greedy riches. In their examples, the spouses/parents returned, yet there was no indication of any blessings or changes in their situation. Then it concludes how just doing service and trusting in God will take care of it all. I couldn't help but wonder, since they claimed they were doing those things in the start, how did that happen to them to begin with???

  Quotes in the next article about how to get financial help or what those in bad situations should do include....." Jehovah knows that we need some money.....The apostle Paul directed that when older Christians cannot make ends meet, their children and grandchildren should “repay their parents and grandparents what is due them... We should not constantly be striving for a higher standard of living or for future financial security. The wise course is to avoid going into debt in the first place. "

  (WHAT THE HECK IS THAT CRAP!!!!! So people should NOT strive for future financial security aka retirement. Yet children should take care of their older parents because they didn't plan for future, and they themselves shouldn't plan for future. And they shouldn't have gone into debt in the first place. )

  Now the final article, the real treat...."Do you appreciate Jehovah's Watchful care" aka the gb and elders up your butt

  "For instance, you may be hurt by a remark that you consider to be unkind. ‘This should not happen in God’s organization!’ you exclaim. Yet, the brother who made the remark receives privileges in the congregation and seems to be well-thought-of by others. ‘How can this be?’ you wonder..Jehovah may have valid reasons for not stepping in.... you may be more at fault than you realize. The comment that you considered to be so hurtful may, in fact, have been well-deserved counsel"

  And at our congregation meetings, all of us receive counsel that comes at just the right time!

  S(So as we can see in the last paragraph, whenever elders do wrong and are able to remain elders, it's becaue it was well deserved what they did to you!)

  So that last article was a nice finish to accept the counsel to not get higher education, not get a career/job that can safely support your family, and not to plan for retirement but have your children pay for your bills when you don't have enough to retire (and they as well can't plan for retirement when they are working).
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  Was Brooke Foss Westcott who did the JW bible related to William Wynn Westcott (enochian magic founder)

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  brooke foss westcott (12 january 1825 27 july 1901) was a british bishop, biblical scholar and theologian, serving as bishop of durham from 1890 until his death.

  he is perhaps most known for his co-authoring of the new testament in the original greekin 1881.. .

  william wynn westcott (17 december 1848 30 july 1925) was a coroner, ceremonial magician, and freemason born in leamington, warwickshire, england.

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  Brooke Foss Westcott (12 January 1825 – 27 July 1901) was a British bishop, Biblical scholar and theologian , serving as Bishop of Durham from 1890 until his death. He is perhaps most known for his co-authoring of The New Testament in the Original Greek in 1881.

  William Wynn Westcott (17 December 1848 – 30 July 1925) was a coroner , ceremonial magician , and Freemason born in Leamington, Warwickshire , England . [1] He was a Supreme Magus (chief) of the S.R.I.A and went on to co found the Golden Dawn .
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  2014 DC: Fewer, but larger venues in the U.S.

  by doinmypart in

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  in the u.s. there are fewer venues this year, but they will be held in larger facilities.

  as long as i can remember my family travelled no more than 2 hours to attend and in the last few years the dc was local (within a few minutes travel).

  this year my family is driving 6 hours to a major u.s. city.

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  The GB has found that generally it's members can only take up to 1 week vacation per year. If they take that vacation, they might have fun and want to have more vacations, meaning getting a better education.

  They thought the solution was to make the district conventions a much longer drive in boring cities so that it's members will forget having time/money for a vacation and make the DC their vacation. This way instead of an annual vacation they can attend the district convention. Instead of weekend recreation, they can go out in field service. Instead of relaxation in the evenings after work, they can study and prepare for meetings.
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  Proof the anointed aren't being resurrected yet.....

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the society teaches that since around 1919 the anointed who have died and do die, are resurrected as spirit creatures.

  the only one to be resurrected as a spirit that is documented in the bible is jesus.

  when jesus was resurrected, did he appear to his disciples yet his body was still buried?

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  The society teaches that since around 1919 the anointed who have died and do die, are resurrected as spirit creatures.

  The only one to be resurrected as a spirit that is documented in the bible is Jesus.

  When Jesus was resurrected, did he appear to his disciples yet his body was still buried?

  If the resurrection will follow in the same pattern as Jesus, then doesn't it make sense that if the anointed or any who die have been resurrected yet, their body would have vanished?
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  How Many Remember the Mass Skating Rink Parties of the Late 70's ?

  by Perry in

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  they were a hoot weren't they?.

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  In the 90's, atleast in my area there was a brief revival of large groups going to public places. A sunday skating rink, where 200+ showed up in the winter. In the summer was a large volleyball game.

  The GB are idiots, they want no jw's to associate with non jw's, then at the same time they don't want JW's to associate with eachother either, unless it's just field service. Other christian denominations have large parties, gatherings, events, etc, and nobody supervising. The GB act like anytime a group of JW's get together, unless there is an army of supervising elders, it will turn into an orgy.

  This one brother rented out an entire waterpark, and I think over 500 showed up. Everyone had a great time, and I think he got dfed or in major trouble for that.

  The GB should encourage and try to make staying in their cult so fun nobody would want to leave. Instead of articles about no more gatherings, no more anything, the large gatherings should have been examples of things to do so nobody is 'tempted' to have worldly association, etc.
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  Did any bethelites here see first hand books of magic and witchcraft in their library?

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  another thread made me remember hearing rumors of books of witchcraft and such found in if not the main library a restricted library at bethel, for research purposes.

  i wonder if anyone here had seen those first hand and if so, what exactly were the names of the books?

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  Another thread made me remember hearing rumors of books of witchcraft and such found in if not the main library a restricted library at bethel, for research purposes. I wonder if anyone here had seen those first hand and if so, what exactly were the names of the books?