Posts by EndofMysteries

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Black girl beat up and bullied by other black for 'acting too white'

by EndofMysteries in

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http://news.yahoo.com/high-school-girl-taunted-beaten-bus-stop-acting-035032786.html.

other than the story, the comments are very interesting, tons of comments by other blacks claiming the same thing happens to them.

not only other blacks but their families as well bully them, calling them oreo, traitor, etc.

EndofMysteries

some comments from the messages on that story....." Same thing happened to me throughout my entire youth, by both classmates and family alike. Just because I was intelligent, well mannered, actually cared about school (or at least doing good in it) and talked proper (no Ebonics or slang) I was considered and verbally called "white boy" by other black students and a significant number of family members (young and old, yes elder uncles and aunties would call me that behind my back). I've been beaten up before by classmates because of this and of course when teachers found out they'd intervene, but considering these were inner city public schools, you can imagine how much that did for me. I've had to force myself to use more slang just to keep them off of me (again, little help)."

" This is ridiculous. Back in college, I worked at a subway during the summers. There was a black guy there who would constantly call me "Oreo" because I was white on the inside and black on the outside. One day I asked him why he called me that. He said that because I live in the suburbs, go to a university, and speak proper English that I acted white. Now that's when I really become offended; that he would associate all these negative things with being black and then to be PROUD of it and try to shame me because I wasn't BLACK enough? One day he came in and said "hey Oreo!" after I told him not to call me that. My shift was over so as I left I told him, "you're insulting yourself and you don't even know it." After that is when the threats started."

" Oh this is nothing new. As a black student in college, I can honestly tell you that I have been shunned so many times by other black people in high school. The don't like me because I'm a foreign black and I don't talk the same way. They didm;t like me because I am dark skin complexioned, I didn't talk like a thug, I was top 5 in my class and because I refused to act like an immature moron throughout my high school career. Ironically, the most racism I have ever faced has been from other blacks. There have been a few ignorant racists whites, but most of the racism I face comes from others blacks. Frankly I don't care, the jokes on them. I am studying to become a physician and I will succeed in the future and laugh at the clowns that I have left behind in life."

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Black girl beat up and bullied by other black for 'acting too white'

by EndofMysteries in

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friends

http://news.yahoo.com/high-school-girl-taunted-beaten-bus-stop-acting-035032786.html.

other than the story, the comments are very interesting, tons of comments by other blacks claiming the same thing happens to them.

not only other blacks but their families as well bully them, calling them oreo, traitor, etc.

EndofMysteries

http://news.yahoo.com/high-school-girl-taunted-beaten-bus-stop-acting-035032786.html

Other than the story, the comments are very interesting, TONS of comments by other blacks claiming the same thing happens to them. Not only other blacks but their families as well bully them, calling them oreo, traitor, etc.

Why is it, if a black person wants to speak proper english, live in a suburb, do good in school, go to college or university, they are bullied for 'being too white', but then those exact same people who bully them then go around and pull the race card blaming society for not having any opportunities in life?

How is speaking proper english, and getting schooling and a good job associated with a race?

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Lying about Shunning! jw.org conceals the "truth"

by Skinnedsheep in

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http://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/shunning/ .

"those who were baptized as jehovahs witnesses but no longer preach to others, perhaps even drifting away from association with fellow believers, are not shunned.

in fact, we reach out to them and try to rekindle their spiritual interest.".

EndofMysteries

Yes, and at what point in semantics does twisting the meaning become a lie?

A man cheats on his wife, has sex with another women.

She asks him, "Did you cheat on me?" He says no. He did NOT lie. He didn't behave dishonestly with her to gain some advantage, he merely had sex with another women. If she asks him, "Did you sleep with another women", he says no, he did NOT lie, he didn't sleep at all, he had sex.

Now in that above example, if you agree he is not lying, then maybe we can agree that the WT is not lying on it's FAQ of, "Do you shun FORMER members of your religion". However, to me lying is knowing what somebody is asking and giving an answer that you know they are understanding to be completely different from how you are presenting it. So just as in my example of a man KNOWING if his wife asks about cheating or sleeping he KNOWS what she means and in a literalist sense he might not be lying the same applies to the WT then, in this case, a person asking the WT about former members meaning those who have disassociated or left the religion and allowing them to believe that an 'inactive' person is the same as apostate/disassociated, and that family is all family not only those living under the same roof.

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Lying about Shunning! jw.org conceals the "truth"

by Skinnedsheep in

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http://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/shunning/ .

"those who were baptized as jehovahs witnesses but no longer preach to others, perhaps even drifting away from association with fellow believers, are not shunned.

in fact, we reach out to them and try to rekindle their spiritual interest.".

EndofMysteries

Pete Zahut - In your answer you said if you "drift away","walk or fade away". The FAQ though is "Do you shun FORMER MEMBERS". Drifting away or walking/fading away is NOT a former member. Only dissassociating or getting DFed is a former member.

The question is not "Do you shun inactive members", it's FORMER MEMBERS. Do you still feel it's honest now?

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Observations from a day at the zoo

by Simon in

so we went to calgary zoo today and i'm torn between zoo's being great for conservation vs using animals to make money.

i think on the whole they are a good thing but it's sad to see some of the animals caged up - somehow i always end up staring into the eyes of a gorilla and it makes me sad.. but that isn't what struck me ... it's these things:.

http://www.amazon.com/step2-wagon-two-plus-blue/dp/b0048wqhgw/ref=zg_bs_166419011_2.

EndofMysteries

I don't think healthy good animals should be taken from the wild. Injured would be okay, if they couldn't live on their own. Or if they are facing extinction, no natural habitat left/safe, but in this case they should be breed and protected areas for them to repopulate. I too feel said for animals that naturally live in big wide open spaces confirned to small quarters. I don't think I've ever seen happy tigers/lions at a zoo.

On the other hand, when they are free....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRd3lrukxu8

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JW GB MEMBER CAUGHT ON CAMERA!!!

by ADJUSTMENTS in

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gb member and so called "annointed" person geoffry jackson is caught red handed on video doing some worldly dancing and sexual gyrating (they have spoken against such manner of dancing on several occasions) with a woman who is not his wife!!!

i can only imagine what they do off camera now!!!.

i would not have even considerd doing such a thing on the dance floor with a woman, especially if it was not my wife, and i'm not even one of the so called "annointed" smh!!!

EndofMysteries

DJS - " As I see it, the more human the members of the GB can be and act the better it will be for the rank and file."

Can you please show me any WT article or talk by the GB that encourage dancing and having fun without guilt tripping or examples of brothers who avoid such things? Such as the WT in July about the brother who decided to not dance at all? Sort of like the 1975, "reports are heard of brothers selling their homes, what a fine way to live the final months, etc".

The GB don't follow their own rules. The more human they act, won't change a thing, they'll publish any feces that comes out of their backside and as evidenced by the video above, they don't follow their own advice and rules.

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Lying about Shunning! jw.org conceals the "truth"

by Skinnedsheep in

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http://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/shunning/ .

"those who were baptized as jehovahs witnesses but no longer preach to others, perhaps even drifting away from association with fellow believers, are not shunned.

in fact, we reach out to them and try to rekindle their spiritual interest.".

EndofMysteries

Space Madness - A few questions. 1. The title of the FAQ is "Do Jehovah's Witnesses shun FORMER members of their religion?", now out of inactive, disassociated, and disfellowshipped, which of those titles results in the annoucement, "Brother ______ is NO longer a member of the christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses?"

2. If you honestly answered the first question, then notice how in that FAQ, once they click on the content, it begins by saying, " "Those who were baptized as Jehovah’s Witnesses but no longer preach to others, perhaps even drifting away from association with fellow believers, are not shunned. In fact, we reach out to them and try to rekindle their spiritual interest." - is that speaking about 'former members' or only 'inactive'(I asked elders and inactive are NOT considered former)?

3. In their description of what it takes for a person to be disfellowshipped, " We do not automatically disfellowship someone who commits a serious sin. If, however, a baptized Witness makes a practice of breaking the Bible’s moral code and does not repent, he or she will be shunned or disfellowshipped. The Bible clearly states: “ Remove the wicked man from among yourselves. ” , do you see ANYTHING that makes a person think that those who no longer agree w/ the doctrine will be DFed or shunned or does it make it seem only those who commit moral/bible sins?

4. A person who doesn't know anything about JW's, would the description about family make them think that no matter what happens with their or their families membership, if anybody left later, they would be family no matter what and shunning doesn't apply to family, or does the description make it clear that any family who does not live in the same building is to be shunned?

5. After considering those 4 questions, do you still think they WT is lying and being deceptive about their practices?

ITT: Spacemadness is a prime example of how the WT gets away with doing so many lies. As seen above he didn't see any deceit or lies in it(even though the title is clearly a lie). That is because he was viewing it from the eyes of a long time active JW member. Any 'in' JW will read between the lines. He was NOT thinking and reading it through the eyes of somebody who knows nothing about JW's and would be researching or wondering if all the 'great lies' that the GB and JW's claim are told about them, about shunning, not allowed to leave without being shunned by family, etc are true. It was carefully written to deceive outsiders.

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Lying about Shunning! jw.org conceals the "truth"

by Skinnedsheep in

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http://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/shunning/ .

"those who were baptized as jehovahs witnesses but no longer preach to others, perhaps even drifting away from association with fellow believers, are not shunned.

in fact, we reach out to them and try to rekindle their spiritual interest.".

EndofMysteries

Yup! Outright lie and deceit. Just like Satan, twisting things!

Now if you point that out to a JW or elder, they might say, "Well the JW.org is talking about somebody who is 'inactive'", at which point you can point out that the FAQ question are "FORMER MEMBERS" and that inactive is NOT a former member. Former member is only DA or DFed.

Then for the family section, they may say, "it's referring to those who live in the same house, even though it's not specifically mentioned", in which case you can ask who is the FAQ for, interested people or active JW's? In which case they must say interested ones, then ask them based upon the answer on family, will a complete outsider think the family part applies to only those living in the same building or to all family based on how it's worded?

It's outright bait and switch, lying deceit. According to JW doctrine, "apostates" twist the truth. And Satan is the master of deceit and lies. So according to JW doctrine, the writers and authority of JW.org, (the GB) are all apostates.

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JW GB MEMBER CAUGHT ON CAMERA!!!

by ADJUSTMENTS in

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gb member and so called "annointed" person geoffry jackson is caught red handed on video doing some worldly dancing and sexual gyrating (they have spoken against such manner of dancing on several occasions) with a woman who is not his wife!!!

i can only imagine what they do off camera now!!!.

i would not have even considerd doing such a thing on the dance floor with a woman, especially if it was not my wife, and i'm not even one of the so called "annointed" smh!!!

EndofMysteries

I think somebody should have shown him the July 14, 2014 WT that DISCOURAGES dancing and dance parties.

" For example, before becoming a Witness, one brother enjoyed the immoral atmosphere of the dance parties he frequented. But after learning the truth, he has completely avoided dancing even at Witness gatherings for fear of awakening improper desires or thoughts from his past. Of course, Christians are not required to abstain totally from alcohol, dancing, or other things that are not wrong in themselves. We are all expected, however, to take decisive and thorough action to protect ourselves from spiritual dangers."

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Is this ignorance or arrogance?

by Pinku in

jws refrain from voting in the political elections saying politics belongs to satan (in obvious violation of bible statement that secular governments are gods minister on earthromans 13:1-6) being built on american soil, there is no reason to think that jws are ignorant of our founding fathers like benjamin franklin who wrote in his autobiography that good leadership rested on the foundation of moral and spiritual character.

he lists in it 13 virtues (such as contentment, humility ......) he valued the most which became the basis of a chart that he used daily to check his attitude and behaviors!.

he tells us that contentment is the greatest asset one can have (because you may have everything else you can dream of, yet if you do not have contentment, it is like you have nothing), yet it is something you are born with, the essential quality of your being.

EndofMysteries

The reason JW's don't vote is because the GB set themselves up as having 'special knowledge' and the 'only ones' who can understand the bible and God's will. To qualify as tax exempt, they can't push political things. While local churches have got away with things, if the GB puts in print or announces at meetings who to vote for, etc, then they would lose their precious money. So they make it seem it's against the bible and forbidden because it would be out of character for them to allow people to decide on their own about something like that when they want complete control of everything, including how many sheets of toilet paper to wipe your arse with.