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  Scientists Should Not Dismiss Genesis So Quickly

  by Chris Tann in

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  nasa discovery proves the bible scientifically accurate.

  the debate.

  for decades there has been a long standing debate between science and religion as to the validity of the biblical genesis account of creation.

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  I think what he means is he is looking for discussions with ex jw believers in creation or ex jw's / christians. (like minded)
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  Why do "Awake" vloumes only start at 1970 on computer disk?...interesting!

  by Witness 007 in

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  2. scandals

  yet watchtowers go way back to 1950's....i picked up three awake volumes 1967-1969 i was struck by the poor science {aluminium is posion}, demon articles and anti-organ transplant articles.

  also much was said about 1975 being the end of the system and "the generation.

  " it feels like fred franz was writting alot of these which now is plain embarrasing and better left un-published.. .

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  The aluminum may have been true, not sure what they were saying about it, but many recent studies link aluminum to many memory and and mental disorders.
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  Eventually, the WT may teach that we are in the 1,000 year reign NOW.

  by EndofMysteries in

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  2. beliefs

  i wouldn't be surprised if one day the wt says we are in the 1,000 year reign now.

  show scriptures how nothing is shown that people are living forever or not dying during the 1,000 year reign.

  scriptures how the finale of gog of magog in ezekiel is by fire coming from heaven to consume the armies and how it was to show the world his return, etc.

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  For reason no intense persecution, etc.... they will say that satan was imprisoned in 1914. The wars and problems now are just imperfect humanity. The reason JW's are free and no intense persecution is because the 1000 year reign they have peace and able to preach freely, but at the end of the 1,000 year reign is when they are attacked.

  (this is all hogwash ofcoarse but goes to show how easy to manipulate scriptures, like Rutherford did to apply all of revelation to himself, etc)
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  Eventually, the WT may teach that we are in the 1,000 year reign NOW.

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i wouldn't be surprised if one day the wt says we are in the 1,000 year reign now.

  show scriptures how nothing is shown that people are living forever or not dying during the 1,000 year reign.

  scriptures how the finale of gog of magog in ezekiel is by fire coming from heaven to consume the armies and how it was to show the world his return, etc.

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  I wouldn't be surprised if one day the WT says we are in the 1,000 year reign now. Show scriptures how nothing is shown that people are living forever or not dying during the 1,000 year reign. Scriptures how the finale of gog of magog in Ezekiel is by fire coming from heaven to consume the armies and how it was to show the world his return, etc. And overall improvement in world and less wars, etc. Then they'll say in 2914 is when the big A happens, but they'll find a way to spin how people must be loyal to the WT their whole lives, even if they won't be alive during that time, they'll show scriptures how when people are judged, the 'books opened' show that they are judged on their past life and how much they obeyed the WT.
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  Why do "Awake" vloumes only start at 1970 on computer disk?...interesting!

  by Witness 007 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  yet watchtowers go way back to 1950's....i picked up three awake volumes 1967-1969 i was struck by the poor science {aluminium is posion}, demon articles and anti-organ transplant articles.

  also much was said about 1975 being the end of the system and "the generation.

  " it feels like fred franz was writting alot of these which now is plain embarrasing and better left un-published.. .

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  1969 awake, " Awake! 1969 May 22 p.15 ***

  If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things. Why not? Because all the evidence in fulfillment of Bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years. Of the generation that observed the beginning of the 'last days' in 1914, Jesus foretold: 'This generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur.' Therefore, as a young person, you will never fulfill any career that this system offers. If you are in high school and thinking about a college education, it means at least four, perhaps even six or eight more years to graduate into a specialized career. But where will this system of things be by that time? It will be well on the way towards its finish, if not actually gone! This is why parents who base their lives on God's prophetic Word find it much more practical to direct their young ones into trades that do not require such long periods of additional schooling… True, those who do not understand where we are in the stream of time from God's viewpoint will call this impractical. But which is really practical: preparing yourself for a position in this world that soon will pass away? or working toward surviving this system's end and enjoying eternal life in God's righteous new order?"
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  Does Modern Day Israel Observe Sabbath? Anyone know?

  by objectivetruth in

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  2. beliefs

  does anyone know if modern day israel observes a type of national sabbath?

  if so for how long have they been doing so?

  thanks for the info.. .

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  Been there, and yes it's like how Sunday's used to be here, most places would be closed.
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  JW's donations going to sexual abuse cases?

  by Ginx in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i posted in the child abuse section, but it hasn't been active for a few days.. i read somewhere on the internet (don't recall what site it was) that jw's donations are going towards sexual abuse cases.. is this true?.

  where can i find solid evidence regarding this matter?.

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  http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/18/us/28-million-awarded-in-jehovahs-witnesses-abuse-case.html?_r=0

  A Northern California jury has awarded $28 million in damages to a woman who said the Jehovah’s Witnesses allowed an adult member of a Fremont, Calif., church to molest her when she was a child.
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  JW's donations going to sexual abuse cases?

  by Ginx in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i posted in the child abuse section, but it hasn't been active for a few days.. i read somewhere on the internet (don't recall what site it was) that jw's donations are going towards sexual abuse cases.. is this true?.

  where can i find solid evidence regarding this matter?.

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  Solid evidence?

  How about common sense for starters.....who pays WT lawyers? Who paid to defend the candace conti case? Who pays legal fees? Where are the millions award to Candace conti coming from? All off this is from your donations.

  here are some articles about donations for the WT

  http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20121201/helping-the-needy/#?insight[search_id]=63ac647d-2013-4cae-8d66-b86578233d07&insight[search_result_index]=10 this one speaks about Christmas and giving to the poor. Notice they bring out how the apostle paul had people put aside money to help THE POOR. BUT the very next sentence the governing body claim that helping to the poor is equivalent to giving money to " to an organization that uses its funds wisely". That's because the WT doesn't give anything to the poor, even it's own members. So in this case, the governing body will wisely be using contribution funds to defend against pedophile lawsuits that may financially hurt them or hurt their image.

  THIS is a recent article....http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20141215/jehovah-blesses-willing-spirit/#?insight[search_id]=017dc813-dcd8-457e-80a6-f805e488bad8&insight[search_result_index]=2 Now if you have ever read the bible, you'll know that Apostle Paul tried to work and not have the congregations support him. Also money was set aside for the poor. However this article again uses that to try to get people to put money for them.
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  A big bang from a previous universe compacted into one big mass makes more sense than out of nothing....

  by EndofMysteries in

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  2. friends

  i've been learning a lot more about the universe, galaxies, planet formations, etc.

  it's amazing how stars are constantly recycled, they form from gathering all the dust/gas/mass around them, the heat and pressure as the mass gets larger, producing stronger gravity, and depending on it's makeup creates fusion, turning into a star, then when it dies, it turns into a supernova, explodes, and sends it's matter out there for other stars to form,etc.

  now galaxies do the same thing, and supposedly in many billons of years many galaxies will have eaten others, and if blackholes or something pulling in all the stars and mass is at the centers of these galaxies, then eventually everything would turn into one huge mass.

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  prologos - I don't know if you asked a question because a creator had nothing to do with what I said. It doesn't explain how things came to be, but if our universe was the result of a previous universe following the same pattern of stars, then it would be impossible since we would be the result of the destruction of something previously here.

  As for how all of life got here and how we have nothing but hypothesis or theories, I like the quote from Nathaniel Hawthorne's "The Birth-Mark", "Our great creative Mother, while she amuses us with apparently working in the broadest sunshine, is yet severly careful to keep her own secrets, and, in spite of her pretended openness, shows us nothing but results."
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  A big bang from a previous universe compacted into one big mass makes more sense than out of nothing....

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been learning a lot more about the universe, galaxies, planet formations, etc.

  it's amazing how stars are constantly recycled, they form from gathering all the dust/gas/mass around them, the heat and pressure as the mass gets larger, producing stronger gravity, and depending on it's makeup creates fusion, turning into a star, then when it dies, it turns into a supernova, explodes, and sends it's matter out there for other stars to form,etc.

  now galaxies do the same thing, and supposedly in many billons of years many galaxies will have eaten others, and if blackholes or something pulling in all the stars and mass is at the centers of these galaxies, then eventually everything would turn into one huge mass.

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  where did 'that' universe come from.

  The best way to explain what I'm saying is imagine the universe is a nebulae. It eventually turns into a solid mass planet, then with enough mass fusion happens and it becomes a star, eventually it dies, becomes super nova, explodes, and all its mass and particles eventually combine again to form a star(s).

  So if our Universe is in the phase after an exploding super nova, all the mass is combining, forming stars, galaxies, galaxies eating galaxies, etc, eventually will combine into one big mass and 'big bang' again.

  As if the universe is like a giant beating heart. Expand, contract, expand, contract.

  No idea if that's an actual theory or not and doesn't explain when or how it all started, but would explain how our current phase started.