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  Doh! wife is about to hear the trololol song

  by freemindfade in

  1. social
  2. humour

  doh!

  here i sit on my laptop on this site, while the wife is watching dubtv over there, she is watching the feb one with trololololy song at the end... i am trying to hold back my laughter because i know it is coming soon!

  how will she react???

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  Here is the real version.  If there is ever an Anchorman 3 made, Ron Burgundy should have a scene doing this song lol.  

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oavMtUWDBTM#t=72
  
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  Doh! wife is about to hear the trololol song

  by freemindfade in

  1. social
  2. humour

  doh!

  here i sit on my laptop on this site, while the wife is watching dubtv over there, she is watching the feb one with trololololy song at the end... i am trying to hold back my laughter because i know it is coming soon!

  how will she react???

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  What is the original name of the song and the original info on it? 
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  40,000 new kingdom halls needed

  by sowhatnow in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  not sure where to post this, but the other day my jw mom says to me, 'the number is increasing they announced that we need 40,000 new kingdom halls'.

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  ok, who else has heard this, and how should i respond, other than to say well your cong is smaller now than it was 15 years ago..... where your growth?.

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  What they mean to say is "We need money"  sell your kingdomhalls because your account will have a big surplus which you'll donate to us, then we'll help you get a small cheap hall so we've made a big profit. We'll build too many small cheap halls that are perfectly designed to be turned into a fast food drivethru, one for each congregation in prime areas, then after they are built we'll sell them to Mcdonalds, etc, and make 3 congregations share each little one, which will coincidentally be the one NOT in a prime location but out in the woods.  
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  Joel or Ezekiel

  by johnamos in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  is anyone here aware of any so-called new info (from wts) regarding the book of joel or ezekiel chapter 38 and 39?

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  Ezekiel 38 and 39 seem to be talking about the exact same event that happens at the end of the 1,000 year reign. 
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  Is the UN really the disgusting thing?

  by StarTrekAngel in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  been dwelling on this for a while.

  was there any particular history on this or anywhere where the wt picked up someone else's doctrine?.

  in most cases, the bible uses the word "disgusting thing" to refer to idols, idolatry and false religion.

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  When I had searched for what the bible may be really saying about the disgusting thing causing desolation standing in a holy place, many scriptures closely related to me seemed to be something beyond human and beyond looking for a actual person.  

  The WT changed around what 2 Thess 2:3-5 say.  It links up with other scriptures too.  But the mystery, man of lawlessness, who sits in the seat of God showing himself to be God. That's really what it should say, someone who tricks people into thinking he is God.  Would the seat of God be a holy place?  

  I don't feel like getting real deep into this topic and all I looked up about it, but that's the quick fast and easy explanation of what I think it's really talking about.  
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  Excuses to miss the meeting that won't raise suspicion of a fade

  by kairos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the first step to fading is to begin missing the meetings.. "if" anyone misses you, a quality excuse must be at the ready.

  this will produce empathy toward you as opposed to suspicion.. 1. car problems ( don't mention that you caused them ).

  2. stuck on the phone resolving insurance, billing, etc issues.. 3. sick ( of the meetings ).

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  Possessed literature cart rolled itself around blocking the door and blocking anywhere trying to move. 
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  Regarding Dates---Have The Witnesses Ever Been Correct On Any Of Them?

  by minimus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i can't think of any chronology that has not been changed.

  even their "absolute" dates are suspect.

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  Russell taught that Israel would be restored to the Jews and as a nation.  It's funny that about 3 years before that actually happened, Rutherford dropped that doctrine saying that's ridiculous and it's only symbolic. It's like God make it happen then just to show extra proof that WT isn't lead by him, nothing they say happens and then when they drop a doctrine, it happens! lol 
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  2014 Watchtower Library CD (very discreetly) changed the Insight article on Faithful and Discreet Slave

  by Gilgamesh in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the updated article on the "fds" makes several changes although it still lists the article/entry as if it had come from the 1988 edition of insight on the scriptures, vol.

  (1co 3:2, 5; 4:1, 2; compare mt 4:4.

  at the same time the individual members making up such composite body, or the domestics making up the house of god (mt 24:45; heb 3:6; eph 2:19), would also be recipients of the food dispensed.

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  Marked.   In the Jehovahs Witness green book they use many similar tactics on the history. For example Rutherford taught there was no holy spirit, his whole life he taught no holy spirit since Jesus returned and was ruling through him/headquarters, etc.  But the Jehovah's Witness history book makes it seem like holy spirit teaching has always been as it is today.  
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  We Need a Video like this one

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is very easy to watch and completely informative.. does anybody have the talent to put one together regarding watchtowerism?.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vkt4hrbtuk.

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  Here are some ideas for a WT version script...

  
  

  JWS:"Hello, we are visiting with your neighbors to show them the truth about God's will for mankind.  God is about to destroy everybody who is not on his team and turn the world into a paradise for those who are. God has selected a special group of people called the Governing Body who are known in the bible as the faithful and discreet slave. Everybody who worships and obeys this group of men who issue orders from New York will live eternally."

  HOUSEHOLDER: "What about those who do what Jesus commanded, he said those who love one another, don't judge, help the poor and sick and orphans, etc..."

  JWS: "It doesn't matter how good, or sincere, or how much you follow what Jesus commanded in the bible, if you aren't following the Governing Body you are unworthy of God's grace and will be destroyed at Armagedon"

  HOUSEHOLDER: " How do you know this Governing Body are the faithful slave?" 

  JWS: "Because each month in the Watchtower the Governing Body publishes, it tells us how they are the faithful slave and we must obey them if we want salvation." 

  HOUSEHOLDER: "So they tell you they are the faithful slave and you just accept it?"

  JWS: "No, the watchtower magazine tells us they are the faithful slave. Also the scripture says the faithful slave would give food at the proper time. So obviously the watchtower telling us to obey the faithful slave who are the governing body are obviously that faithful slave, is that not proof of food at the proper time?"

  HOUSEHOLDER: "Have they given any signs or any proof they have God's backing?"

  JWS: "Well they are imperfect men, so many things they said would happen haven't happened and the light keeps getting brighter, but those who don't follow them are like Korah who rebelled against Moses and will be destroyed by God!"

  HOUSEHOLDER: "If they haven't performed signs like Moses to prove they have God's backing, how do you know you must follow them then?"

  JWS:"Because as we said, in the Watchtower it says those who don't obey the governing body, who are the faithful slave, will have no hope of salvation" 

  HOUSEHOLDER: (giving up on that point) Okay, so what must a JW do, what are the instructions of the faithful slave? 

  JWS: "You must spend all your time going door to door to proclaim that salvation is at hand for those who obey the faithful slave, this means no higher education because it may corrupt your faith and take away from time of going door to door, no having fun because that takes time, no working out because that takes time, if your elderly parents become needy due to health you must put the preaching work first, you must go to 2 meetings a week and listen to the same information over and over about worshipping and obeying the faithful slave, it's recommended to give all your excess money and will all your possessions to the faithful slave when you die, you may not talk to anybody who has left the true religion because they are against God himself and their lies are stronger then our truth and will trick you into leaving, any funerals must not talk about the lives of the deceased but instead focus on telling those in attendance how following the faithful slave will give them life again, you must cut contact with all friends and family who are not JWs, you must not give any money or time to charities that help the poor, orphans, etc, because the faithful slave needs that money, you must not read the bible and try to learn its message in context, the governing body alone can understand the bible. 

  HOUSEHOLDER: Woah, no charity, doesn't Jesus command us to do that?  

  JWS: See, that's the danger! If you read the bible on your own, Satan will enter your mind and make you go against God! That's why we need the governing body! 

  HOUSEHOLDER: But how do you know it's not the governing body who are corrupting you and lying? 

  JWS: Because it says so right in the watchtower that if you read the bible on your own, you can't possible know the truth and if you don't follow the faithful slave God will kill you when the end comes!

  HOUSEHOLDER: SLAMS DOOR

  
  
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  Holidays?

  by Garrett in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  not sure where to post this, so i posted here.

  i was wondering, since your coming out of the organization, have any of you decided to start celebrating certain holidays?.

  thanks, peace and love.

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  At first not, and I didn't even really investigate whether it bothered me or not but then I got involved with somebody who did.  (most non jws).  So I examined and researched things.  I also asked them if they are pagan of origin, and they know it, why it would be okay for them (being christian), their reply was that they are NOT worshipping pagan gods.  WHen they celebrate christmas, it's for appreciation of God having sent Jesus, etc. 

  I examined scriptures, and many in the new testament say things such as don't judge people on what day they choose to observe or place as higher importance, whether a new moon, etc, but if you observe any day do it for God's glory.   So when people do christmas, they aren't worshipping sun and moon gods, it's what it is to them. And just because something was done 2 or 3,000 years ago, you will find 'pagan' origin in almost everything.  The days of the week, if you say today is Saturday, you are calling it Saturn's Day, so are you worshipping Saturn by calling it his day? etc?  Also with JW's the wedding and anniversary celebrations have so called pagan roots. So for Christians, the adopting was a good thing, it was taking something bad and turning it good. 

  Holidays also ad tradition and things for families to get together and do things together. So all of those things were what was going through my mind the first few years after leaving.