in my reading there seems to be 2 schools of thought and i am just wondering which one is correct.. (1)watchtower is a multi million dollar corporation that is making its money by fleecing its flock e.g k.h refurbs, giving preference to houses with an insurance cheque under the banner of emergency relief and pocketing the money from volunteer labour.
to a lesser extent (although it wouldnt generate nearly as much money as the 2 examples above), getting kick backs from international conventions,charging for car parking when they got it for free, society approved motels that are grovels in the middle of no where.
i do wonder how they can get away with this under the title of of a charitable trust, and i do at the very least think, this is cheeky.. it is cold and hartless and will roll anyone who gets in its way e.g menlo park elders.
hey joe
I think that it's both. It's a religion run by an oligarchy that is sure of it's righteousness and will do anything that is beneficial to its organization while combatting fiercely anything that may hinder its progress.
The people in charge of it, over the decades, have changed it into a hive mentality organization.
our congregation is rationing regular bibles like they're gold bars.
i was told that bethel is out of stock!
anyone else hear about this?
okay we've all beat our chest, lamented and throttled the dead horse of aawa.. time to move on!.
i suggest those of us on j-w.n who care about creating something the right way take the trouble to get the framework going.. let's do the grunt work and get the nattering, debates, naming and organizing already pre-approved so that "others" who have the talent, ability, motivation and resources can move in and turn the key!.
because it was not done before.. there is more wisdom on this discussion board in our vast numbers than there could possibly be in a virtual boardroom with 8 people brain-storming.. that isn't an insult--it is just a statistical fact!.
What do you say?
Terry, the idea of a concerted effort to mail bomb Bethel is good.
It would work out to the advantage of the senders to forward the letters to individuals in the Branches and not just to some department or group, like the Governing Body.
It is more likely, that a Bethelite will open up a letter, realize what kind of a letter it is and yet... intrigued by curiosity read it and be exposed to TTATT.
In order for this to work out well we'd need lists of names or positions in Bethel.
Another idea that may help is sending some of the mail using the type of envelopes that are used for DF/DA forms for the Society, that is those lightblue-greenish envelopes. They get special treatment and aren't opened by your R&F bethelite.
okay we've all beat our chest, lamented and throttled the dead horse of aawa.. time to move on!.
i suggest those of us on j-w.n who care about creating something the right way take the trouble to get the framework going.. let's do the grunt work and get the nattering, debates, naming and organizing already pre-approved so that "others" who have the talent, ability, motivation and resources can move in and turn the key!.
because it was not done before.. there is more wisdom on this discussion board in our vast numbers than there could possibly be in a virtual boardroom with 8 people brain-storming.. that isn't an insult--it is just a statistical fact!.
I like your thoughts on this Terry.
TTATT always looked like "pi alpha pi" to me :-)
(i.e. instead of "tau tau alpha tau tau")... TTATT.
It not only stands for "the truth about the truth"
but can also be "the truth about the Tower"
Being in the "Greeks" of the WT, the unwanted
Gentiles, those whose times have ended for the
WT.
As opposed to the JWs who see themselves as
Spiritual Hebrews and bound by the laws of their
lesser Moses Governing Body.
TTATT (pi alpha pi) sort of like PAP... could lend
itself to testing and smearing the Watchtower
Society. (Alright! that was uncalled for)
our new co, who's name sounds something like brother prosboscis, said that the governing body cannot and will not be held bloodguilty because they are advancing new light and that their effort to bring forth "truth" proves they love the "truth".. i couldn't help but think of the false "truth" of blood transfusions and how holding on to this teaching truly makes them gulty and accountable, drenched in the blood sacrifice of innocent victims that believed their false "truth", shame on them for calling falsehood a "truth" and for calling good what is bad.. the governing body of jehovah's witnesses is responsible for the loss of lives due to their teaching their followers to refrain from blood transfusions.
thousands have probably died from following this teaching.. ===============.
those governing body zombies don't want or care about your souls what they really want is your flesh and your blood.. can we have someone with good photoshop skills do an artistic representation of the new 2013 gb photo exposing their bloodguilt?.
Our New CO, who's name sounds something like Brother Prosboscis, said that the Governing Body cannot and will not be held bloodguilty because they are advancing new light and that their effort to bring forth "truth" proves they love the "truth".
I couldn't help but think of the false "truth" of blood transfusions and how holding on to this teaching truly makes them gulty and accountable, drenched in the blood sacrifice of innocent victims that believed their false "truth", shame on them for calling falsehood a "truth" and for calling good what is bad.
The Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses is responsible for the loss of lives due to their teaching their followers to refrain from blood transfusions. Thousands have probably died from following this teaching.
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Those Governing Body zombies don't want or care about your souls what they really want is your flesh and your blood.
Can we have someone with good photoshop skills do an artistic representation of the new 2013 GB photo exposing their bloodguilt?
this is a direct quotation from wt july 15 article "feeding many through the hands of a few" par.
"remember, in his prophetic illustration of the wheat and the weeds, jesus warned that a newly planted field of wheat (anointed christians) would be oversown with weeds (imitation christians).
the groups, he said, would be allowed to grow side by sideundisturbed until the harvest, which would come at a conclusion of a system of things.
Ask any questions and I'll expand on it.
No! Lars! Please no! No questions here no need to expand. Thank you very much.
Actually didn't even read the stuff you pasted. Long posts are too tedious and un-readable, somehow off-putting even.
my jw wife came home really upset a couple weeks back.
someone was "announced" at the hall that she really loves, a young woman.
it was the fourth person dfd from her hall since the beginning of 2012. two young people, one single mother, (those three probably for "sex crimes" but i don't know 100%) and one ms, which is the most interesting from my perspective because i knew the guy to always be a rebel, and i suspect it was for apostasy or he dad.
The congo I attend is about two hours away from a major city. We've had 6 df's in the last year. Just recently two teenagers aged 16 and 17, both females were df'ed. One just came back from staying with relatives in Alaska, her Dad was an MS and was reproved. The other was baptized less than a year ago. An older brother who's been in the Hall since the 70's just got df'ed as well in 2013, for "violent anger" issues (read alzheimers) he used to be a logger and then worked in a saw mill, he lives on Social Security and used to get rides to the meetings.
it's been a while since we heard about their engagement.
did they break it off?
did they get married?.
There's definitely a hand holding thing going on at the bottom of the photo.
so, the two local congregations were planning to hold their memorial together at 7:30 at the local community center, but they had to make a last-minute change to their own hall, and i'm pretty sure it was because of me.. let me explain.... at work on monday afternoon, a co-worker returned from her lunchbreak and showed me the memorial invitation that was waiitng in her door when she went home for lunch.
i noticed the sticker on the back indicated the memorial was being held, not at the local hall, but at the community center.
from a past (non-jw) event i attended there, i knew they didn't allow alcohol (unless you pay for security guards), so i wrote to the center's coordinator:.
LOL!
Dear ShepherdBook I applaud your wherewithall!
You inconvenienced them because they sought to get around the rules to use a public place.
If they insist on their own rules being followed to a T then they should likewise follow a community center's rules.
I see no problem with that and if the "Quiet One" likes to make noise about it then s/he's making an oxy-moron of him/herself.
for starter stop judging and you will not be judged..
