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  Spiritual AMNESTY -- Return to Jehovah

  by FusionTheism in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  basically, from what i can tell from the new return to jehovah brochure, is that the governing body is now offering amnesty to anyone who has been gone from the congregation but now wants to return.. it claims it doesn't matter what sins you've done, or what caused you to leave, if you repent to jehovah and ask the elders to help you, and return to the meetings, you'll be warmly welcomed with no disciplinary action or judgment against you..

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  oppostate

  What? On page 9 there's a sister with her back to the congregation. It can't be a real congregation--there's not even one overweight person in the bunch!

  It's all just as fake through the whole book.

  It's a tool to clear the conscience of shunners. They can surreptitiously hand this to a DF'ed relative and feel that is now upto the DF'ed person to acquiesce or continue to be shunned.
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  To My JW Brothers and Sisters

  by Hold Me-Thrill Me in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  to all brothers and sisters reading this site: "and i love you so" (remember the don mclean song?

  )...is the feeling most of us had with regard to the watchtower and the brothers leading it.

  but truly, who did we get baptized for?

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  oppostate

  Your post was very encouraging. Thank you so much.

  Likewise, Frank, thanks for your original post in the discussion forum. It took some tenacious daring-do for you, no doubt, since you weren't scared away by some of the other posts people share here.

  Take the good and dump the bad, like the dragnet. Each person needs to work out their own salvation through their faith in God and Christ. Although, if we can encourage one another, we should, and that's a blessing.

  We can't gain salvation for others, they need to put faith in Jesus Christ. But we can't judge anyone, God can read hearts and knows what each person has gone through. If we had to walk in each others sandals I'm sure we'd see everything with more understanding of who they are and how our experiences have a big part in molding us into who we are as people.

  Tell us how you ended up here, feel free to share more, if you're comfortable with that.
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  Not Enough Oil

  by Harold OMorning in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  go instead to those who sell it, and buy some for yourselves.

  matt 25. so .....when someone anointeded claims they need more of an item of value that we have when they already had and used it unwisely is this the correct response?

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  oppostate

  No it just means that they weren't prepared, and someone who is prepared and full of faith in their salvation through holy spirit, can't bestow that blessing on someone else, they have to sort out themselves what belief they hold that can sustain them, until the fulfillment of that salvation arrives.

  That's how I understand it anyway.

  When a Christian sees someone in need and can do something about it, the right thing is to try to help, so in this case the counsel is not that, not to give of what you can't provide someone else by yourself, you need to go to the one who bought salvation for you by having faith in him, with hope, demonstrated through one's baptism. I cannot buy salvation for you, you can't buy salvation for me. The one selling it at no price, gratis is God himself through one's faith that Jesus is the Christ, that is the promised Messiah.
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  To My JW Brothers and Sisters

  by Hold Me-Thrill Me in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  to all brothers and sisters reading this site: "and i love you so" (remember the don mclean song?

  )...is the feeling most of us had with regard to the watchtower and the brothers leading it.

  but truly, who did we get baptized for?

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  oppostate

  @Hold Me-Thrill Me

  Dear Frank,

  Your words indicate you're a Christian man of faith. In this discussion forum there are many people who have lost faith due to their experience with the Watchtower, its rules and its mistreatment of people.

  I haven't lost my faith in Jehovah God and Jesus Christ only because I can see the difference between the Organization (those who claim to speak for God) and God himself. But I can understand those who've left and have lost their faith due to the hurt and disappointments they've felt while in the Organization. I am very "opposed" to the half-truths and the lack of humility when those who govern the Organization make mistakes and then blame it on the ones that followed them.

  There are also quite a few here who still consider themselves believers in God, and I encourage you to share with others your experiences and your thoughts because it can be liberating to vent and rant without fear of retaliation. If discouraging words from atheists are something you can't stomach, then address your posts very clearly to those who still believe in God, if they're not interested in the topic then they'll skip it--No need to make you feel bad about sharing. Although from time to time you'll find here some who just like to jab at believers, it must be fun for them to act like jerks, maybe, I don't really know why, But people are people and everyone has the right to express their opinions whether they believe in God or not.

  If you haven't read the book entitled Crisis of Conscience I very highly recommend it to you. I had a chance to translate the chapter on the Governing Body into Spanish among others, and proofread the book before publication. It was a great experience, very eye-opening to take time and read it slowly and with understanding. It was a life changer for me and I felt it really reinforced my faith not in an Organization but in the Bible and its message.

  So welcome to the discussion forum, I'm glad you found your way here, my brother.

  --Xavier
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  I think the WT believed their own "growth" statements - Financial Trouble Thoughts

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  we've all read, heard and have seen in the videos where jw's and their leaders talk about the "huge" growth that is taking place.

  they've talked about how many kh they needed, branches etc... .

  our co last visit he mentioned how quickly the organization is speeding up and the huge growth they are seeing.

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  by discouraging higher paying careers and guilt-tripping the sheep for more contributions they can instill a sense of constant dependence on the bOrganization to assure them things will be all right, paradise is just around the corner.

  In essence sheeple (as we, ourselves may have been at one time) exchange the promise, by the WT oligarchs, of safety and paradise ahead, for the future we pass up, the reality of which depends on getting a good education and reaching for a successful career.

  The end result is slavery, physical, mental, and emotional to self-appointed Governors of our faith and hopes.
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  A funny moment... lol

  by hardtobeme in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when the rnwt was released, we were invited to go to the local assembly hall.. there was a sister right next to me and she started bragging that it was her 8th year in an annual meeting.

  (typical thing, all spiritual).

  when was time to sing, i listened to her beautiful voice.

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  @FayeDunaway

  Wow, I'm definitely impressed!

  It does make perfect sense that after all that Christ would be "exhausted", doesn't it? It was so funny!
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  New way of preacing?

  by dogon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have noticed that in florida at least i see at every flea market and or town square jws sitting drinking coffee with a table and a couple of sandwich signs with watchtowers and awakes doing nothing more than playing on their phones and or talking to each other.

  i have not yet seen anyone going up to them and engaging them but i bet they are counting time.

  what a cheat.

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  oppostate

  Hey, if given the choice back when I too would have opted to sit at a display table in a flea market and drank coffee instead of knocking on empty houses or waking up people who work at night or were sick from work that day--heck yeah. lazy or not. :-)
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  Witnesses called for a bible study

  by umbertoecho in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hello all.. i haven't been here for some time to post as mainly i read the comments and such.

  yesterday was a really interesting, unnerving experience though.

  two sisters had called last week when i had an abscess on my tooth and was sort of sick from it.

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  oppostate

  Ask them if they are there to share the good news with you.

  Then ask them to read you Galatians 1:8, 9 because the good news is what's important to a follower of Christ. The apostle Paul says this is very serious.

  Tell them you know about their literature and how it says announcing Jehovah's Kingdom, but you are really interested in the Good News of the Bible not what some magazine says. How is this the good news of the Bible that Paul talked about?

  Ask them if they can tell you what exactly are the good news they preach.

  Then could they show you from their Bible where it says what they said.

  And you open your Bible to 1 Corinthians 15:1-8. How does that match with what they preach, because if not, they are teaching another good news, and if so, then they stand condemned as Galatians 1:7 says.

  Go back to Galatians 1 and now read them verses 6 and 7.

  So if they preach another good news they really have deserted God, as verse 6 says.

  https://bible.org/article/what-gospel
  

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  "illustrated Bible Stories" on jaydub.org site

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i stumbled onto the section on jaydub.org (i'm not putting the proper address in for them).

  it is called "illustrated bible stories" under the "children" section.. why is everyone of the 12 stories from the old testament / hebrew scriptures??.

  so much for a "christian" religion!!.

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  oppostate

  I stumbled onto the section on jaydub.org (I'm not putting the proper address in for them)

  I prefer JW.borg :-)))

  So much for a "Christian" religion!!

  Even the new logo, JW looks like it needs an "e" in between the two letters. I think they do this on purpose.

  BTW I'm from Sephardic ancestry so the wannabe WT spiritual Semites/Israelites thing they got going feels almost like identity theft to me. :-(
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  Watchtower's deadline to appeal

  by Boeing Stratofortress in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the conti verdict was made in mid-april.

  presumably, the wt&ts has until a certain date to decide whether to take the case to supreme court or not.

  does anyone know how long this period is from the date of the court's decision?

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  oppostate

  Of course they'll wait until the last minute. It's in their "best interest", why?

  Because the more they wait the more the big sums of money stay in their bank account gathering interest.