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  How the Watchtower Screws Up Your View of Scripture

  by CalebInFloroda in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  while i do not argue the stand of atheism (because as a jew i find it totally logical and acceptable), i have noticed that there are odd carryover preconceptions about scripture that some hold as axiomatic about the bible (at least the hebrew texts), misconceptions that have nothing to do with the jewish scriptures themselves.. so regardless of what you may think of scripture, whether you believe it is of g-d or not, i thought some of you might enjoy a reference to see how much the watchtower teaching on scripture might still be influencing the conclusions you are making today...at least about the tanakh.

  jews read their texts acknowledging the following:.

  1. no scriptural concept of original sin.

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  Oh Caleb, you're really full of bung and quoting from the Jewish Encyclopedia isn't going to get me to believe anything you're selling.

  The term RAQIYA means to spread over like if you whirl a pizza pie dough over your head and you don't catch it going down and you end up wearing it as a hat, it is "spread over" you, now imagine I come along and smack down on it a few times so it is firmly attached to your head.

  This lessons on Jewish belief are also "over" you, I'm afraid.

  The Greek stereoma (LXX) and the Latin firmamentum (Vulgata) mean firm, stable, constant thing.

  Judaism has had so many different sects that who's to say what the belief of one sect or another is correct. Was Paul not a Jew? Was he not taught about Torah from the best?

  And there were the Essenes, and the Saducees, the Pharisees, the Zealots, and whoever else cared to interpret the Torah. The Talmud is just that, arguments about interpretations and traditions.

  And today there are quite a few different sects of Judaism not agreeing one with another about traditions and interpretations.

  I find it quite ridiculous that you start badmouthing Christian belief as pagan! I guess you're siding with the Pharisees and the Priests in calling Jesus a blasphemer. Then, like them, you're just exposing yourself as a hypocrite.
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  The 1995 Generation Change

  by sloppyjoe2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was just a teenager and have a vivid memory of sitting in a chair doing a microphone for the sunday meeting.

  everyone was commenting that it didn't mean the end was far off, and it didn't change the condition of the dead, or the 144,000, or the trinity so we should still remain faithful.

  this is my first memory as a kid being just a teen that i ever had a single doubt.

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  I was an upwardly mobile MS, trying to be perfect so the elders would bless my efforts and deem me one of the in crowd of younger older-men.

  When the 1995 change came I remember asking my then mentor, a know it all elder who was only four years older than I and was barely twenty when he was appointed elder, say to me that it really didn't matter.

  He said that to him The Truth(C) was the best way of living and even if it turned out it was wrong, he would have still lived the best life. So it could never be wrong in his mind, it would always be the best life, free from drugs, immorality, and everything this "wicked system" has to offer.

  I remember it struck me as a weird way to look at things.

  If it wasn't the truth, I thought, then I really want to find out exactly what is the real truth. And I remember thinking how stupid it really sounded to continue doing something you found out was a lie.

  Shortly after that I became an elder and had to quiet down all doubts lest I backslide into questionings and doubts.

  What a bone head I was. (& probably still am, it's just that now I know for a fact the many lies that hold up The Truth(C) and no, it's not the best life one could ever have!)
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  Beware the will use legal means against lies

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am posting a transcript a part of the talk given by anthony morris iii from jw broadcasting july 2015. i've posted much much more than necessary but i wanted to keep it in context.

  the governing body has approved of my speaking of something that jesus himself spoke of on a number of occasions.

  and i might say at the outset that this is by no means a pessimistic speech meant to discourage anyone.

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  So reading over what you wrote I could just hear his slurry whine tone of voice saying the words, it was quite disconcerting.

  All I can perceive from the broadcast is Tony III, trying to put the scare on.
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  Bethelite"s wife storms out of headquarters and leaves him...she was forced into Bethel. My story begins....

  by Witness 007 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  we were all in our 20's the 1990's pioneers who still hoped the 1914 generation was for real.

  jenny {names changed} loved peter who was younger then me and very handsome.

  he wanted to go to bethel since he was a kid.

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  Call her up! Give her an out for a day off! Sweep her off her feet! Take her to dinner and a play on Broadway! Be her shining knight for a night on the town!
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  Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 07-12-2015 WT Study (FIGHT SATAN)

  by blondie in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  blondies comments you will not hear at the 07-12-2015 wt study (fight satan)(may 15, 2015 issue).

  http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/.

  the wts usually says the devils main and sometimes only target are the anointed remnant and the other sheep are collateral damage because of their association with them..

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  Every single stinking article they publish is just wrong on so many levels.

  Thanks Blondie for exposing the inane WT study articles as the written piece of rubbish that they are. Oh I wish your comments could be voiced during the WT study meeting!
  

  The WT study meeting compounds the WT stupidity of what they write because the loyal publishers are going to regurgitate the insanity and commend each other for their commenting.
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  Just a short observation on self inflicted misery.

  by Human Being in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i used to post on this site a few years back but after moving on personally and being shunned by my only remaining family member for the last 4-5 years i the j.w's became just background noise to me.

  yet yesterday something happened that brought back to me the degree of control this cult has over it's members.

  a new wall mart recently opened in my little mountain town here in northern georgia, u.s. as i headed across the parking lot on my way into the store the heat was intense, wit a humidity factor of around 90%.

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  But that's got little to do with whether or not JWs should be there in the first place trying to sell their wares.

  Bo!!ocks Steve, and you know it.

  If the ambulance had to come to Walmart's in a small town it would be talked about, it would give bad PR to Walmart and the Witnesses.

  If you were to bring them an umbrella to keep the sun out, they'd brag later how God provided for them.

  I'd do like I said, bring them a couple of cold waters from Walmart and tell them I was concerned about them in the heat and how it would give a bad name to Jehovah if they were to suffer sunstroke or faint. And I'd still complain to the Manager about the risk of having an ambulance speeding with full siren blaring through her parking lot.
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  The new Governing Body is liberal. they are really freeminders!

  by rege brazzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  dear friends, your posts are very good, but we really think that they will change many things soon...for example.

  watch tower now are feminist and they protect the gay cause.soon we will have many gay marriages in kingdom halls.you will see.that governing body is really cool.ted jaracz and john barr were the last puritans in the governing body!.

  the current governing body is completely liberal, but as yet has some bethelites the old guard working, they are still holding some behaviors .... but very soon you will see ... even in my congregation is very liberal ... not here disassociates for immorality .. just for apostasy ... i fucked three sister, but the elders did not shunned me, but they only help me!

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  I fucked three sister, but the elders did not shunned me, but They only help me! yes .... really a paradise!!

  You should change your name to Judas Priest, you F'ing Lying Troll! Never in your wildest dreams would a BOE let you get away with it, unless you're a pedophile.

  So it seems that would make you a troll, an idiot and a pedophile.
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  Had my Hopes up for this Regional Convention

  by James Jack in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  heard a lot buzz for our upcoming convention.

  those that already been were saying how great it was and all the videos that were presented.. well, thus far not impressed!

  in fact many times pure insanity!

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  The new Return to Jehovah brochure is welcoming back any/all without questions

  Nope. There'll be questions, and expect even more questions if you admit to being involved with someone sexually or even with just yourself and some porno. They'll want to know all the ejaculatory details and what were you wearing at the time.

  If you happen to have been DF'ed or DA'ed you'll have to sit out back from six months to a year and be a quiet little dubbie.

  The DF'ed are best seen and not heard.
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  How do you deal with Anxiety!

  by little_Socrates in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so the other day i was walking through the huge local regional outlet shopping mall.

  i see this sign "how do deal with anxiety" didn't take very long at all to confirm it was a jw booth.. that sign bothered me.

  do jw actually think they have something to say about anxiety?

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  How very sad the JW's are playing this card as if they had a valid answer and cure. When they are part of the problem.

  The life of a JW is filled with toil and drudgery, stress and anxiety.

  When I finished reading CoC and ISoCF there was this big weight of anxiety that lifted off from me. I could see the pointlessness of following the WT and its hierarchy of task masters.
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  I AM LOOKING FOR LETTERS TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS AND I WANT TO VIEW IT HERE AND I DON'T NEED ANY LINK PLEASE

  by COLLINS in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i said that i want to view the september 7,2011 and the may 6,2012 to all bodies of elders and fadingtruth sent a link but i could not find them.. so i just want someone from this forum to post these letters here without any link please..

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  oppostate

  ALL RIGHT THEN.

  DID YOUR CAPS LOCK KEY GET

  STUCK BY ANY CHANCE?

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  “Everything is easier said than done. Wanting something is easy. Saying something is easy. The challenge and the reward are in the doing.”
  ― Steve Maraboli, Unapologetically You: Reflections on Life and the Human Experience

  “Youngsters want to change world. Elders want to enjoy their works.
  The entrepreneur sells anything needed by both to win their desires.”
  ― Toba Beta, Master of Stupidity

  “The problem with wanting is that it makes us weak.”
  ― Leigh Bardugo, Shadow and Bone