Posts by oppostate

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New letter, re: Fully Utilizing Kingdom Hall Auditoriums

by suavojr in

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friends

let the merging begin!!!.

to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territory.

re: fully utilizing kingdom hall auditoriums.

oppostate

These strategies are only impoverishing the already over burdened publishers.

And while the WT may be amassing a lot of wealth, this trend isn't sustainable.

Eventually there's going to be a lack of growth. Negative numbers in reports would be quite disappointing.

There's no 1975 to blame this time, so they're going to excuse the lack of growth somehow.

I can just imagine the abusive paragraphs in WT publications that will badmouth those who are cowardly holding back.

The only thing I can figure is they're trying to build an endowment big enough that they will not need so many contributions and then make due with a smaller amount of publishers, but publishers who are deeply under the WT spell and profoundly loyal.

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Crisis of Conscience

by The_Doctor10 in

for those of you who haven't attempted to read or just haven't been able to obtain a copy of crisis of conscience by former gb member raymond franz, if you're interested, here's a link to an audio playlist reading of it:.

playlist.

this person has made it his goal to put into audio form raymond franz's book.

oppostate

Awesome work! Much appreciated.

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What are the costs of literature cart witnessing?

by oppostate in

in the article on the guardian ( http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/14/jehovahs-witnesses-evangelism-church-god-armageddon ) mentioned in another thread, there's this quote of mark omalley, who is assigned to the public information desk at the jehovahs witness uk centre in north london.

we now have more than 165,000 [literature] carts on the streets in over 50 countries.

it gives us visibility and availability.

oppostate

As Splash points out just the monthly theme signage posters could be in the neighborhood of $30 to $40 U.S. dollars.

Worldwide that has to add up to quite a lot of new revenue for the WT. Money that instead of going toward fuel to drive around in service can now be saved by publishers and spent on other things--I'm sure the WT wants a cut of this too.

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Article: Indiana man, a JW, now in prison asks local Muslims for forgiveness for setting fire to their prayer room in the Islamic Center

by AndersonsInfo in

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friends

http://www.toledoblade.com/religion/2015/04/05/arsonist-asks-local-muslims-for-forgiveness.html.

the fire was set in the prayer room.

damage from smoke and water used to extinguish the september, 2012, blaze caused the islamic center of greater toledo to stay closed until spring of 2013.

oppostate

One definite way to get Bethel lawyers and hierarchs freaked out! If the Witnesses dare speak out against Islam or Mohammed there's going to be quick retribution and crack down by the Muslim community all over the world.

What would really get the Muslims upset would be to have a JW burn a copy of the Quran and it be shown in the news. The WT big-wigs would $h!t themselves.

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What are the costs of literature cart witnessing?

by oppostate in

in the article on the guardian ( http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/14/jehovahs-witnesses-evangelism-church-god-armageddon ) mentioned in another thread, there's this quote of mark omalley, who is assigned to the public information desk at the jehovahs witness uk centre in north london.

we now have more than 165,000 [literature] carts on the streets in over 50 countries.

it gives us visibility and availability.

oppostate

In the article on the Guardian ( http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/14/jehovahs-witnesses-evangelism-church-god-armageddon ) mentioned in another thread, there's this quote of Mark O’Malley, who is “assigned” to the public information desk at the Jehovah’s Witness UK centre in north London. “We now have more than 165,000 [literature] carts on the streets in over 50 countries. It gives us visibility and availability. It’s something we’re going to see more of, definitely.”

The number of 165,000 carts in use means there's been a lot of money spent in obtaining these literature carts. How much money does each cart cost the congregation?

Also each cart needs signage, apart from literature, how much does the signage for the literature carts cost?

Interesting too that the WT PR person says "It's something we're going to see more of, definitely." This was echoed by a phone answerer at Bethel who said they were distancing themselves from door to door witnessing and focusing on phone and literature witnessing more and more.

Driving around in service and knocking on empty houses doesn't add money to the WT coffers. But, providing literature carts and their signage could be yet another income stream for the WT. It makes me wonder how much are they profiting from this new venture?

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P.S. To All members of the Worldwide Order of Special Full-Time Servants of Jehovah’s Witnesses

by The Searcher in

based on the org's doctrine regarding john 5:28, 29 "do not be amazed at this, for the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, and those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment", namely - .

that "those resurrected to life on earth will be judged "according to their deeds" during judgment day", then be prepared to lock up your house, possessions, & daughters during christ's 1000 years reign, because the "faithful slave" says that evil people will be judged for doing evil things after they are resurrected and living in the new world!.

that doesn't sound like a paradise to me!

oppostate

The Searcher: "then be prepared to lock up your house, possessions, & daughters during Christ's 1000 years reign, because the "faithful slave" says that evil people will be judged for doing evil things after they are resurrected and living in the new world!
That doesn't sound like a paradise to me! How about you?"

That's a great reasoning point Searcher. The WT doctrine also doesn't go along with Matthew 25:34 "Then the King will say to those on His right, 'Come, you who are blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 35 For I was hungry, and you gave Me something to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me something to drink; I was a stranger, and you invited Me in; 36 naked, and you clothed Me; I was sick, and you visited Me; I was in prison, and you came to Me.'"
If Jesus is judging people on what they did for the littlest one of his brothers during their lives now, how is it they'll be judged again during the thousand year reign? It makes no sense.
But I think the WT tries to get away with saying that judgement day is for those alive and that the judgement during the thousand years is for the ones resurrected. < http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/g201001/what-is-judgment-day/ >
I think their doctrine clashes with scriptures such as 2 Corinthians 5:10 "For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may be recompensed for his deeds in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad."
This Scripture in 2 Corinthians seems to teach that what we all do in this life, while in the body, is the basis for being judged.

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Faced with plummeting ratings JWbroadcasting tries a spin off combo show with 'Shark Week'

by Watchtower-Free in

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oppostate

Or "Shark Tank" tum-tum-tum-tum

I can just about hear Mr. Wonderful saying: "Look Tony it seems profittable and I like profitable but even for ME, it's just way too immoral a religious scam! You're getting a big zero from me because you're a greedy bastard! That's it, you're dead to me!"

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JWs With A Financial Interest In The Org

by JW_Rogue in

through personal experiences which i'd rather not relate because it would give away my identity i have come to a realization.

many brothers own businesses that a greatly supported by witness activities.

when local congregations need some service they will prefer to do business with a jw.

oppostate

we paid more so as to save money. If you can understand this, please explain it to me.

We pay more so the WT can get a nice cut. Working in Conventions with the rooming dept. in Administration was quite an eye opener. The freebies that hotels would grant the WT in free rooms and meals was just obscene.

Then if a single mother with a child or two came to the desk saying she didn't have a place to stay we were always instructed to find elders in her congregation to deal with the need. Sometimes they even paid from their pockets if a room was found available.

In congregations where I've been there's always been business trouble among "the friends". One thing I've learned is to hire someone who isn't a JW to keep it all contractually pleasant and without surprises.

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Writing Committee Doesn't Understand Past, Present, & Future Tenses

by The Searcher in

the verses say one thing, the org says it means something entirely different.. (matthew 24:34) "truly i say to you that this generation will by no means pass away until all these things happen.

w14 1/15 p. 31 par.

15 - "we understand that in mentioning "this generation," jesus was referring to two groups of anointed christians.

oppostate

@TheSearcher

Excellent points, when the scriptures clearly say "has" and "did" the WT insists on placing these statements as being fulfilled in the future.

These are examples of how they are still hung up on the type/anti-type nonsense of Russell, Rutherford and Second Adventists.

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Wish You Knew? Ask a Jew!

by CalebInFloroda in

because on another thread questions about just what the hell jews believe kept taking us off topic, i decided to start this new one.

that's why, as you will notice, it has that new thread smell.

i will do my best to give thorough and concise answers, but be warned: i do not take myself very seriously.

oppostate

At this point we are having a musical interlude, including two of the latest hits:
1. I Beat Dat Bitch With a Bat (rap and slow dance versions)
2. Pinot Noir (Ode to Black Penis, kosher version)

That's just wrong, misogynistic, and mental, dude!