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  Im curious. What kind of lifestyle the GB live?

  by SecretSlaveClass in

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  anyone ever seen pictures or the actual houses and cars the gb own?

  im wondering if the live a middle class lifestyle or more like high society?

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  There's an account of a brother from Malta who called a GB member at the luxury hotel resort he was staying during his visit to "give a talk" in the Island.

  The brother asked the GB member if he thought it was okay to stay at that very expensive resort in a place where most witnesses are rather poor and the GB member felt he didn't have to answer anything and ended up hanging up on him.

  I'm just telling the gist of what I remember about the story but it is somewhere online still. It just goes to show how just like all CEO's and big religious leaders like the fancy life and live at the expense of others' hard work.
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  If Jackson is not available due to compassionate reasons, can other GB member take his place?

  by Viva la Vida in

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  i would think the only christian organization on this planet would be more than willingly send another gb member to australia in order to answer rcs questions, taking the place of jackson who is taking care of his ill farther.

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  if someone should show compassion to jackson those are his gb pals.

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  but I think Jackson's affiliation with the Writing Department is what interests the Commission.

  Being in the Writing Committee would definitely be of interest for the Royal Commission. In Jackson's case there's a triple whammy, he's in the Writing Committee, the Teaching Committee and the Personnel Committee. Who better qualified than Jackson to address the setting up of policy and procedures that affect 8 million people?
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  Justice McClellan was annoyed by not being made aware of the authority of Jackson as a GB top dog. Material needed if any one here could ..

  by umbertoecho in

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  hello again.. splash had a pile of scriptural evidence which he uploaded and it was good material.

  it established the gb as the fds and used watchtower study articles.........i don't know if he was the only one but the material flew in the face of what those men have been saying.

  it proves, using their own material how they indeed think they are the ones with the direct control over millions of lives, because as you know.........they are the direct hot line to god.

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  Didn't the "Unthank" case contain a quote by O'Brien claiming the WTBTS was structured exactly like the Catholic Church!?!?

  We haven't heard from Stephen Unthank through the Royal Commission's process so far. Is he reachable? Who can contact him?
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  Question for those still attending...is anyone talking?

  by ToesUp in

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  we haven't been to a meeting or jw event in several years.

  we have been following the rc closely.

  it is fascinating!

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  oppostate

  First there's going to be that feeling of denial and disbelief then the media exposure needs to permeate the consciousness and lead to troubling dissonance.

  The doubts will be there waiting for some personal shakeup that leads to awakening out of the cult.

  
  
  
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  Mr Jackson declines to appear in RC

  by StarTrekAngel in

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  http://www.jw-archive.org/post/125844213823/geoffrey-jackson-declines-to-appear-before#at_pco=cfd-1.0&at_ab=per-15&at_pos=0&at_tot=14&at_si=55c27690475c6bb3

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  These are all baseless accusations!
  Rumors I say, vicious rumors!
  When's my flight out of here?

  
  

  
  
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  Question for those still attending...is anyone talking?

  by ToesUp in

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  we haven't been to a meeting or jw event in several years.

  we have been following the rc closely.

  it is fascinating!

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  oppostate

  I've mentioned it to my wife.

  I brought up the News on CNN and ABC about the Royal Commission finding that 1006 pedophiles were not reported to authorities by the Aussie Branch, and then...

  
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  How are Pro-JW sites handling the RC situation ???

  by RubaDub in

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  sorry as this topic may have been covered many times but any thoughts or links to other topics on how the pro-jw websites are commenting on this.. rub a dub.

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  oppostate

  There have been some posts on facebook, accompanied by the usual exchanges accusing each other of being "apostates"!
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  Hello Again

  by spoils_useful_habits in

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  hi everyone, i joined this site 9 years ago, posted a few times but decided i just didn't want anything to do with the jw's anymore including perusing exjw sites.

  i felt that i just had to completely "detox" myself from this religion, not even talking about how much disgust i had for it.

  it did a wonder of good.......but, i recently came across an article about the australian child abuse cases and started to see what was happening with that, which got me here again.

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  oppostate

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  ROYAL COMMISSION: ARE JWS TAUGHT TO REFRAIN FROM SWEARING ON THE BIBLE OR NOT? JW.ORG PLEASE EXPLAIN!

  by steve2 in

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  during yesterday's rc proceedings (wednesday 5th august 2015), one of the victim's lawyers questioned mr vincent toole, the jw organization's legal counsel for the australian branch office.

  she asked him why at least two of the jw elders who gave evidence last week refused to swear on the bible.

  mr toole appear puzzled by her question and said he did not know.

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  JWs who, even after reading it, forget it within 15 minutes.

  I would be one of those. No matter what article or public talk it is it all seems so contrived and without heart that it is quickly forgotten.

  I would also make an affirmation instead of swearing on the Bible.

  For me it is a matter of conscience, if my word is not good enough then swearing on a Bible isn't going to make it any better or more truthful.

  I think the lawyer was trying to see if by not swearing on the Bible the elders were trying to get away with a "fingers-crossed" testimony.

  It was surprising that O'Brien was happy to swear on the Bible but was caught in giving his legal counsel wrong information as to Jackson's involvement as a decision and policy maker.

  He likely feels that practicing "theocratic war" strategy absolves you from fully letting your yes be yes and no mean no, even if you swore on the Bible in front of other people and before his own God.
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  A question to ask about the two witness rule for reporters or the RC

  by scary21 in

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  someone posted about this not long ago but i could not find it.. in deut.23:25-27 it talks about the girl being raped in the field, and no one is around to help her.

  she is not to be put to death .. she did not sin.. the man is to be put to death.

  how can he be put to death on her word alone ?

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  oppostate

  The problem is if you ate a Pharisee you like turning priciples into laws so that way you maintain control over the ignorant.

  Well said.
  (although I think you meant "are" and not "ate" : - )

  There is also the counsel not to quickly believe allegations against an elder but to depend on the testimony of two or three people.

  The JW religion uses a lot of Old Testament accounts applying them as guides. They seem to rely on OT accounts even more so than the Gospels or any NT accounts.

  It's hard to see them as Christians instead of OT religionists.