Posts by oppostate

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WT Society SEC Records : Hedge Funds, Cayman Islands, Financial Losses - Links

by flipper in

so my wife and i were curious so i researched some financial links and found records indicating that the wt society has been operating at a loss since the year 2012. as you read the links it shows a loss of 10 million $$$ in 2012, about 16 million $$$ in 2013, and a whopping loss of 56 million $$$ in 2014 - where the expenditures exceeded the revenues for each of those years in the amount i've mentioned.

also there is a link on this same website with the sec records indicating that the wt society and it's representatives funneled 40 million $$$$ into hedge funds in the cayman islands as early as 2007. if you look online on other sites you can see evidence that indicates the wt society attended hedge fund conferences to look into more shadiness in 2011 and isn't it curious that by 2012 the wt society started showing losses.

anyway here is the link : https://www.watchtowerlies.com/the_watchtower_revenue.html .. feel free to check this link out and other links on that link indicating the cayman island connection.

oppostate

All I see, and please correct me if I'm wrong, is the Canadian Branch declared a loss on paper because they transferred their money to HQ.

Which was also the case with the Australian Branch sending donations/contributions to the U.S.

So what is Worldwide HQ spending the money on? Warwick? Hedge funds? I don't see where that much cash is going.

Their forgiving of KH loans we know is false. To say you forgive a loan then take whatever they have saved up in a bank and on top of that demand a monthly payment equal or above what they were paying before is just lying pure and simple.

If you show a loss because you "forgave" those loans then that's another lie.

I think they're just lying and making the R&F panic thinking that Momma WT doesn't have enough money to pay her bills.

I hope I'm wrong, but I just don't understand how they're spending it all. Where's all the money going now that they had plenty of before?

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Are Circuit Overseers next?

by Londo111 in

last year saw the elimination of the district overseer...and circuit overseers now must retire at 70. how long until the circuit overseer is no more?

of course, the role might still exist, they would simply not get paid.

they would have to care for their own expenses.

oppostate

there is no reason a CO can't be an elder from a local congregation. I've seen this many times.

@PoN

That's what the HQ discussed with Spanish speaking Branch reps. A sort of City Overseer / Region Overseer arrangement. The info was leaked before everything had coalesced into the current situation with letting the DO's go and making the CO's have more responsibilities.

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All It Takes Is ONE!

by John Aquila in

jw
friends

ive been reading all these posts about bethelites and special pioneers being kicked out in the street and being forced to get a job to provide for themselves..

and im trying to put myself in their situation and feel the emotions that must be going through their mind.

what if my wife and i both dropped out of school to pioneer and got married at 18. and what if we were very faithful in listening to everything the organization says.

oppostate

I know what your going to say they aren't children,
but we are all children of God at least according to the Borg.

No, Sabin, actually the WT does not say that.

w87 3/15, p. 15, par. 17 - - “These with earthly prospects are declared righteous and enjoy peace with God even now, not as sons, but as‘friends of God,’ as was Abraham.”
w12 7/15, p. 28, par. 7 - - “Although Jehovah has declared his anointed ones righteous as sons and the other sheep righteous as friends on the basis of Christ’s ransom sacrifice…”

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Question - thoughts on explaining your fading to teachers?

by elderINewton in

jw
friends

weird/odd question, but with our family fading, and our daughter in school how or should one approach teachers with this?

our child is a little too young to understand why we are fading, but it proves challenging in school as they have been, well brainwashed, to say i shouldn't do that etc... .

i don't like explaining anything to teachers about the fade, etc.

oppostate

Teachers will keep in confidence something you've shared with them privately, just make sure you've also talked to the principal and they know you have done that. Breaking confidence is a big no-no.

Just explain yourself to them and they'll back you up in your decision to "normalize" your children's experience. If you have this talk with them you may just be able to open their eyes to the harmful effects of the wt cult.

But definitely talk to the principal first and let them know that any concerns you share with them about your situation are to be considered confidential.

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Area Man Forced Into Jehovah's Witness Protection Program

by Watchtower-Free in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huvagg49bpm.

oppostate

Kkkkkkkkkkk.

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Tired of the truth... Tired of doubting

by Deltawave in

i'm reaching out here, i've known ttatt for about 3-4 years now.

sadly when i first grasped it i had a total mental breakdown as i was a hard core firm to the core pioneer and 110% believer of my faith.!

now nearly 2years on after my breakdown i still have to attend to please my jw wife.

oppostate

I'm in a very similar situation, went through the stages of grieving as I learned the TTATT. My wife is still very loyal to the WT, perhaps even more so as I drew away from taking an active part in meetings. I still go to Sunday talks, Assemblies and an occasional mid-week meeting, but I find it very hard to listen to the mind numbing nonsense, the only way I've found to manage is bring my kindle or the ipad and either search online or re-read portions of CoC and ISoCF by Ray Franz, and Jim Penton's superb JW history books, also other ex-jw books I can get on amazon.com

Keeping the peace at home is important to me. My wife is a kind and very compassionate person but the cult personality imposes the judgments and "corporate-ocratic" mindset of the WT religion. I've been in for 30 yrs. so mostly those I know and feel close to are either active JW's or ex-JW's. It's a tough situtation, but it's getting easier to deal with the one's still under the mind-control, as long as I steer the conversation towards non-JW topics.

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Latest Leaked BOE letter to Elders Oct. 4th

by Watchtower-Free in

october 4, 2015. to all congregations.

re: new provisions announced atannual meeting.

dear brothers:.

oppostate

Remember the leak that COs were going to be a thing of the past? (Fool me once.....)

Actually the leak was correct. The GB was looking into getting rid of DO's and CO's and discussing this with foreign Branches for input. They'd talked about using brothers from the specific circuit to visit local congregations as in a City Overseer arrangement. Part-time circuit overseers would report to the local Branches, help process appointments, give special talks, etc. all from his own home base and using his own transportation as visiting speakers do now.

The DO's have been let go but the CO's remain although the CO visits have been shortened and they've been given more responsibility for appointments.

The leak was just too soon during the process as they muddled their way through the "changes" that the JW's would need to go along with although not seeming logical from a "human" point of view. So... These changes were in the works, discussed with foreign Branch rep's but too raw when the leak went out.

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Watchtower Toledo buildings renovation designed by STATE-OF-THE-ART designer office

by Gorbatchov in

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friends

for people who already are bedazzled by the current stream of information about watchtower / jw.org real estate planning, renovation and the emergency stop on the building programma called out, i found today that the renovation design of the (impressive!

) toledo buildings for the watchtower real estate staff, is designed by a state of the art designer.

http://www.hudsondesign.pro.

oppostate

Very pricey digs indeed.

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I went down in the first Round!

by John Aquila in

there is a visitor brother in town and from what ive been told, he has been a missionary for many years and they were having a get together for him.

i took my mom to that get-together yesterday and stayed for a few minutes.

i heard a group around a table with the visitor brother talking about how hard it was getting in the world with so many distractions and that many of the brothers were falling into the trap and leaving jehovahs organization.

oppostate

The dark side of the force powerful with that one is.

But overcome you will young Jedi John!

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2015 September 21, BOE/About October 4, Letter!

by Atlantis in

2015, september 21, boe/about october 4, letter.

.. re: letter dated october 4, 2015 .

click the green download button.. http://wwwb.fileflyer.com/view/doguca6.

oppostate

Thank you, Petra/Atlantis!