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  Which Bible Translation

  by moreconfusedthanever in

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  i have seen a few comments about the nwt being an altered version of the bible and i must admit that when they released the new one it did not sit right with me.. i want to read the bible but not the nwt.

  i also do not want to read one that has the thee and thou and ye etc because that will do my head in.. what translations do you recommend?.

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  I like the new Jerusalem bible, its very readable!
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  DNA analysis establishes modern-day Lebanese to be ancient Canaanites

  by jwleaks in

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  2. bible

  wcontinuity and admixture in the last five millennia of levantine history from ancient canaanite and present-day lebanese genome sequences.

  the american journal of human genetics .

  july 27, 2017. summary.

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  oppostate

  The Canaanites and the Phoenicians were the one and same people and Phoenicians lived in what is modern day Lebanon. Also the Carthaginians were Phoenicians that settled as a colony on the North of Africa.

  The Canaanites were to be dispossessed from Canaan according to Moses but not from North Africa or Lebanon or anywhere else.

  I don't see how it would be a shock to find Canaanite matching DNA in modern descendants from Phoenician communities of old.
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  BBC reports on shunning

  by Fe2O3Girl in

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  2. scandals

  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40704990.

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  oppostate

  There's already an earlier thread going on this topic:

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5195955617923072/bbc-news-ex-jehovahs-witnesses-shunned-their-families
  
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  How To Change People's Beliefs

  by oppostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  magda kay is really easy on the eyes and i love listening to her accent, all her cuteness aside, she does give some excellent reasons for understanding how cognitive dissonance is used to control how people think and even change their beliefs.

  can this be turned back on those who are mind controlled by the wt?

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jxrdxyv-bc.

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  Magda Kay is really easy on the eyes and I love listening to her accent, all her cuteness aside, she does give some excellent reasons for understanding how cognitive dissonance is used to control how people think and even change their beliefs. Can this be turned back on those who are mind controlled by the WT?

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JXrdxyv-Bc
  

  Magda invites you to get her other videos dealing with the psychology of marketing--I haven't watched the others but she has quite a few up on YouTube--And I'm sure if they're just as eye-opening as this one then her videos explain a lot about how the WT Corporation uses marketing psychology to entrance folks to join their 0rganization.
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  Is there any humor in the bible?

  by Normalfulla in

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  2. humour

  humor plays a big part in a lot of humanity and we all like a good laugh but as far as i'm aware god's supposed word has no actual humor ,of course apart from being a joke itself ,why wasn't there a passage or something like "jesus farted and giggles broke out among them " or something, is anyone aware of any notations of humor ?

  all to.serious really.

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  Ehud Stabs the Crap Out of Some Dude ... Literally

  Ford Maddox

  The Book of Judges is one you don't hear recited at weddings and baptisms a lot, mainly because the whole thing is a grisly, ugly mess, with some of the most twisted, violent murders and sex acts this side of HBO. And that's too bad, because dropped in toward the beginning is a story that seriously sounds like what would happen if the Farrelly brothers co-wrote a movie with Quentin Tarantino.

  The story opens with Israel under the thumb of the Moabites, an ancient people who enjoyed conquering and enslaving other ancient peoples. God sends a hero named Ehud to save Israel, which he accomplishes by getting the king of Moab alone in a room and then stabbing the crap out of him:

  Speculum Humanae Salvationis
  

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  "Ehud came to him while he was sitting alone in his cool roof chamber. And Ehud said, 'I have a message from God for you.' ... Ehud ... took the sword from his right thigh and thrust it into his belly ... and the refuse came out." (Judges 3:20-22, New American Standard Bible)

  "Refuse," as in "poop." Yes, Ehud literally stabbed the crap out of him. OK, but how do you escape a palace full of guards after you've just killed their king? Easy -- lock the doors, go out the window, and convince them he's pooping:

  "When he had gone out, his servants came and looked, and behold, the doors of the roof chamber were locked; and they said, 'He is only relieving himself in the cool room.' They waited until they became anxious; but behold, he did not open the doors of the roof chamber. Therefore they took the key and opened them, and behold, their master had fallen to the floor dead." (Judges 3:24-25, New American Standard Bible)
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  Is there any humor in the bible?

  by Normalfulla in

  1. social
  2. humour

  humor plays a big part in a lot of humanity and we all like a good laugh but as far as i'm aware god's supposed word has no actual humor ,of course apart from being a joke itself ,why wasn't there a passage or something like "jesus farted and giggles broke out among them " or something, is anyone aware of any notations of humor ?

  all to.serious really.

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  "Let two bulls be given to us ... And you call upon the name of your god, and I will call upon the name of the Lord, and the God who answers by fire, he is God." (1 Kings 18:23-24, English Standard Version)

  C.G. PfannschmidtSo, basically, both teams have to build an altar and offer a sacrifice, then wait for their respective deities to light 'em up -- fairly standard my-god-can-beat-up-your-god stuff. Naturally, Baal fails to show up to the party, and his prophets start getting exasperated, so they proceed to do whatever they can think of to elicit a response: they limp around, they cut themselves open with spears, but Baal does nothing.
  

  And then Elijah gets bored and unleashes the sarcasm:

  "And at noon Elijah mocked them, saying, 'Cry aloud, for he is a god. Either he is musing, or he is relieving himself, or he is on a journey, or perhaps he is asleep and must be awakened.'" (1 Kings 18:27, English Standard Version)

  Some versions interpret the "relieving himself" part as simply "he's busy" -- but no, it's "I bet your god hasn't shown up because he's taking a dump." The original Hebrew word is sig, which can mean "expulsion," defecation," or "bowel movement." Yep, Elijah is being about 900 percent more offensive toward those dudes' deity than Monty Python was of Jesus in Life of Brian.

  Oh, and in case you're wondering, Elijah then proceeds to build his own altar and drench it in 12 buckets of water, and then God lights it up in an instant.
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  reps of the JW.0rg kiosk looking very Sea.0rg'ish

  by oppostate in

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  2. beliefs

  amazing how cults end up looking so similar.

  have you ever wondered how budhist monks and catholic monks look and behave so similarly?

  or why mormons and jw religion have so many parallels?.

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  oppostate

  This is free publicity and brand exposure for JW.0rg since the locals would have come up with the whole kit.

  Betcha if the WT put it on it would not have included so many manning the display.

  They look like they are just there to be seen, which seems to be the way of Witnessing these days.
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  reps of the JW.0rg kiosk looking very Sea.0rg'ish

  by oppostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  amazing how cults end up looking so similar.

  have you ever wondered how budhist monks and catholic monks look and behave so similarly?

  or why mormons and jw religion have so many parallels?.

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  oppostate

  Amazing how cults end up looking so similar. Have you ever wondered how Budhist monks and Catholic monks look and behave so similarly? Or Why Mormons and JW religion have so many parallels?

  Here's reps of the JW.0rg kiosk looking very Sea.0rg'ish

  https://www.facebook.com/david.fuentes.9461/videos/1532972206735927/
  
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  "the easiest thing in the world" Charles Manson quote

  by oppostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  how very like the jw.0rg!

  my jaw dropped reading this on facebook, a quote by charles manson, about getting people to do what you want.. .

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  oppostate

  How very like the JW.0rg! My jaw dropped reading this on facebook, a quote by Charles Manson, about getting people to do what you want.

  
  
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  I have a theory related to the cult spectrum

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  translating jwfacts into spanish has made me critically analyze pretty much everything paul has written.

  i would say paul is right 90%+ of the time.

  some things are just things that are outdated, on other occasions, things are partially right and just need to be tweaked.anyhow... one of the articles is "where else would i go"?since i am an atheist, ideally, for me, the answer would be "become at least agnostic, if not atheist, and lead an evidence-based life".

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  oppostate

  @ ILoveTTATT2

  I've been to some of their conferences here in Massachusetts at Gordon College. They're pretty cool. The conference of Free Bible Students had its start in 1909 in Brooklyn, NY, they'd split from Russell over the issue of the New Covenant.

  http://www.cbconference.com/

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  http://www.cbfchurch.com/history-of-cbf.html

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