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  Watchtower Apple (Bible delete) and Tract Society (Delete Bible0

  by Slidin Fast in

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  2. scandals

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  oppostate

  Having had one of the new grey leatherette and silver edged bibles with the new appendixes in my hand I can say that I was not very impressed with the fact that the CO's who'd been given one had to turn it back in.

  Why did they have to turn them back in?

  Was there some error? Did thousands of Bibles get printed only to be shredded?

  Or did they make a business decision that it would be too costly to make them currently?

  It seems the latter is the case. There have been too many folks "giving" away Bibles with the plasticky covers.

  Not enough contributions were donated for these cheap Bibles. The new covers were supposed to cut down the price by a US dollar per copy.

  Or so we were told. The Friends didn't even contribute a dollar per copy when all was said, printed, shipped, picked up and placed.

  In other words, Bible printing was losing the WTS money and that was a big "No, no!".

  The new grey Bibles underwent a trial to see what publishers thought and would they contribute enough to make money on them.

  Obviously the answer is "No!" Not unless all the cheap Bibles are gone.

  When the only Bible you can get is the new one. There'll be a lot of "encouragement" to donate what a retail leather covered Bible would cost at a bookstore. Then, the hope is to make some good bucks on the ol' Scriptures.
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  Merrimack New Hampshire KH Project denied credit by WT seeks $ from others

  by bnybyt in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the merrimack congregation in nh is seeking to buy land and build a new kh, the nh rbc has plans to build a $750,000 (that's right a three quarter million kh).

  "the branch" has wanted to build a kh between the cities of concord and manchester nh for quite a few years now.

  unfortunately the wt has looked into their resources, local bank account is over $100,000, and they can contribute $2,000 monthly towards a mortgage.

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  oppostate

  Vote with your pocketbook.......

  Indeed!

  Well said.
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  Where are all the new members?

  by Captain Obvious in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  with the changes in doctrine being fully unveiled at the dc this year, i expected many to wake up.

  the dcs have been going on for a month now, i fully expected to be welcoming new members by now!

  am i just being impatient?

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  oppostate

  The ones I've spoken to don't have a problem with the FDS change.

  One of them said straight out "Well, that makes more sense, doesn't it?"

  I don't expect much of an exodus at all. I do hope I'm wrong, though.
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  Merrimack New Hampshire KH Project denied credit by WT seeks $ from others

  by bnybyt in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the merrimack congregation in nh is seeking to buy land and build a new kh, the nh rbc has plans to build a $750,000 (that's right a three quarter million kh).

  "the branch" has wanted to build a kh between the cities of concord and manchester nh for quite a few years now.

  unfortunately the wt has looked into their resources, local bank account is over $100,000, and they can contribute $2,000 monthly towards a mortgage.

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  oppostate

  Thanks Blondie,

  Basically, the KH buildings are a means of hiding money. When the WTS decides they want to, they can disband the congregation, send publishers to another KH and all the money from the sale of the building and land gets pocketed by the WTS. It's happened several times up here in New England. There's already two more projects I've heard of, like Greenfield Mass Congregation, and North Adams Mass. Congregation, where congregations have already bought land, btw North Adams just had a remodel worth beaucoup thousands of dollars for building repairs, parkinglot expansion and grounds revamping with heavyduty machinery.
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  at the DC right now,disgusting talk

  by losingit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  tortured by this talk where they are attempting to legitimize the division/ separation of family.. "sadly friends some will refuse to have courage in this matter.is it not in our best interests to abide the arrangements of the christian congregation as set by jehovah?

  accept the torture stake involved in confessing union with christ.

  then they cite the example of a brother who is thankful to his wife for persisting in preaching to him.. now they are talking about disfellowshipping, lay serious guilt trip .the brother talking about his baby sister getting disfellowshipped, how his father cried for the first time.

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  oppostate

  Well, this District Convention has been a lot easier for me to put up with!

  I've now slept through most of the talks.

  The only times I catch some of the dribble is when my wife elbows me because she hears me start to snore loudly.
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  Merrimack New Hampshire KH Project denied credit by WT seeks $ from others

  by bnybyt in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the merrimack congregation in nh is seeking to buy land and build a new kh, the nh rbc has plans to build a $750,000 (that's right a three quarter million kh).

  "the branch" has wanted to build a kh between the cities of concord and manchester nh for quite a few years now.

  unfortunately the wt has looked into their resources, local bank account is over $100,000, and they can contribute $2,000 monthly towards a mortgage.

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  oppostate

  Funny thing is the 3 times as big parkinglot isn't for an assembly hall.

  It's for a KH in the middle of nowhere, with nothing close by but woods, for a congregation that already happily shares a building with another congregation 15 minutes away by interstate highway.

  Oh btw, said interstate highway has tolls in and out of Merrimack. It's the only town in the whole interstate that still has toll booths.

  Most of the growth in New Hampshire is in the more populous areas like Manchester and Nashua. Not in between cities in a rural township, the only attraction and big employer in Merrimack is "Anheiser-Busch's" smallest of its breweries.
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  Merrimack New Hampshire KH Project denied credit by WT seeks $ from others

  by bnybyt in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the merrimack congregation in nh is seeking to buy land and build a new kh, the nh rbc has plans to build a $750,000 (that's right a three quarter million kh).

  "the branch" has wanted to build a kh between the cities of concord and manchester nh for quite a few years now.

  unfortunately the wt has looked into their resources, local bank account is over $100,000, and they can contribute $2,000 monthly towards a mortgage.

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  oppostate

  Apparently the NH RBC has been working full steam ahead on the Merrimack KH.

  Yup, it's a pricey KH. They've already invested over 150,000 on the ground site and the preliminary landscaping of the heavily wooded area.

  The neighbors were so upset at the extra truck traffic, noise and deforestation that Brooklyn sent in "appeasers" to meet with each of the neighbors.

  The town of Merrimack is demanding hundreds of thousands go into landscaping. Also they had to put a sidewalk for hundreds of feet that goes along, starting from no place in particular, all in front of the property to... you guessed it, coming to an end in no place in particular further down the town road.

  The parking lot is three times that of most KHs in the New England area (why so big? no clue, that's what the Bethel Architects came up with. They've had to do all kinds of rainage and drainage studies and present these at the town meeting but no explanation for the obviously oversized parking lot).

  Several congregations in New England have taken loans 30,000 to 50,000 to help the new build. These congregations are taking loans from the WTS but the ownership of the Hall will be in the hands of the WTS when everything is built and paid for.

  One congregation that took a $30,000 loan on behalf of the Merrimack project is situated an hour and 15 minutes away and the median age of the congregants is in the low 60's which means most of the publishers are retired and on Sundays the attendance is around 70, not a child is to be seen, in this mostly elderly but very generous KH. I visited a couple of meetings there and sitting through their "Wednesday" meeting was like pulling back molars, I'd rather they pulled teeth than sit through one of those again. Booooorrring! It was like the whole KH was one tired crowd that went along with the mechanics of the meeting.

  Another congregation that took a loan from the WTS on behalf of the Merrimack KH Build project is way over in the State of Vermont, over two hours away. They had sent letters to quite a few congregations and these sent in responses to the Branch about whether or not their BOE felt they could help by taking out loans to finance the project.

  Unfortunately the original costs for the project now seem underbudget. There's already plans to appeal for more financing since the materials have gone up and there have been quite a few snafus.

  I plan to go to the dedication when all is said and done and take a few photos if all goes well.
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  Needed - a printable 2013 DC badge

  by venetian in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  is anyone able to post this years dc badge for printing?.

  i'm a man with a plan .

  mawahhhhhhh!.

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  oppostate

  If you notice the cover of the program and the badge have the same layout and color.

  I've done this many times for folks who lose their badges.

  Just take a program and cut it to fit a plastic badge holder.
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  Bibles out of stock

  by turtleturtle in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i txt my in law who works at the printing facility in the us regarding why there were no bibles in so many congregations.

  they never answered for either text.

  i would say someting is going on with the nwt..

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  oppostate

  The GB and some DO's and CO's have been sporting "fatter" NWT's with a silver edging and a grey leatherette cover.

  This new edition had the appendixes that appear in other editions like the KIT and the Reference bibles.
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  2013 CONVENTION

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  well?

  we're all waiting on the other side of the pond to hear the latest "new lights" being revealed - it'll save us waiting - sometime for months!!.

  seriously, due to past articles & teachings - especially july 15th 2013 - the rumblings of people awakening are clearly being heard.. hence christ's repeated warnings about "staying awake" and "keeping on the watch" as well as 'testing inspired expressions' to see where they really originate!.

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  oppostate

  What's new for 2013

  New Publications for 2013

  5 tracts

  2 books

  2 brochures

  1 DVD

  Friday

  *And now we are pleased to present to you another tool that will help us understand the truth more fully: The Study Guide for Jehovah's Witnesses. This guide will be available in Spanish beginning January 2014. It has been prepared to help us find answers to our questions about Biblical themes and counsel on aspects of daily living.

  *It is a pleasure to announce during this convention the publication of five new tracts that without a doubt will contribute to many people hearing the sound of the truth for the first time. These are:

  1.- What the Bible means for you?
  2.- How do you see the future?
  3.- What's needed for a happy family life?
  4.- Who controls the world?
  5.- Will suffering ever end?

  Maybe these titles sound familiar, but the content and design of these tracts is completely new.

  Saturday

  A new publication:

  the book of 208 pages entitled "Examples of Faith"

  This book includes the articles from the series Examples of faith that have been published during the last tive years. It also presents new information, for example a chapter dedicated to Abraham, who came to be "the father of all who have faith" (Ro 4:11); in addition, each chapter includes questions to facilitate your study.

  It includes new and beautiful illustrations, and others that already existed have been modified or increased: in addition it contains a chronological timeline and maps that will help us better understand their stories and helpus put them into context. In the future maybe we'll use Examples of Faith in the Congregation Bible Study, but we can already begin using it in out personal study and Family Worship Night.

  Sunday

  *New brochure of 32 pages entitled: "How to be happy in life?"
  It has been prepared with Jewish readers in mind.

  *A new brochure"

  Entitled: My first Bible lessons.

  This nice brochure of 16 pages, printed in full color, has the goal of facilitating for parents the chore of teaching their children of three years or less

  *A new DVD",

  entitled: The return of the prodigal son

  This moving story is based on the drama "This your brother was dead and now lives" that was presented in the year 2009
  at the District Convention "Keep on the Watch!".

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  Thanks to forum member Nebeska Nada for helping to clean up the original text. Adam at ExTJ.com posted it in Spanish there.