Posts by oppostate

With all the changes and the celeb GB it doesn't seem like the bOrganization that was in WT vogue when BonaFide said he'd bring it down within 12 months.

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Prank call to Governing Body member Anthony Morris III gets through

by Watchtower-Free in

alert..............alert.....breaking news .......... john cedars of jwsurvey has pranked called governing body member anthony morris iii at bethel .

over 2 minutes of pranking .

as i type he is editing the recording into a video .

oppostate

Kudos Cedars!

I applaud your initiative and give those opposing your actions a big raspberry farty noise with rainy spittles for them!

Keep up the good work. The worst thing these GB "mandamases" hate the most is being made fun of! Just like tyrants and dictators.

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Interesting statement made by CO. Is this new?

by stillin in

in his first talk of the week the co mentioned that people don't get df'd for joining the military or registering to vote because they are already gone, as compared with smoking secretly, which would merit df'ing.. i have been toying around with registering to vote in the next election (us) so this intrigues me..

oppostate

How could one find out if the WT could be held responsible for denying people's right to vote their conscience, since voting is considered by them taking a non-neutral stance and therefore immediate DA'ing by one's actions?

I've written the ACLU and haven't gotten a response yet. I don't think they'll consider it a very pressing issue, not understanding what DA'ing labels actually do to a person's family and friend relationships.

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JW TV is the reason for the hysteria in the KH

by campaign of hate in

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if you, like me, have noticed the sudden increase in hysteria in the khs right now, i put it down to that jw tv site.

its's far more extensive than i thought it was, i thought it was just 1, 1 hour program a month.

there's a s*** load of videos on that site.. and the real problem, from just watching a clip from each video, is that these guys are clearly "mentally unstable".

oppostate

I'm sure that the Legal Dept. has a tight rein on these GB celebs. Everything they say on video is probably combed over by several people an rehearsed over and over before filming, then taped over and over before approval for "air time"/"cloud time". If there's something where you hear the Legal Dept. getting the slap down then maybe then there'll be reason to expect some weirder behaviors popping from the GB cabal.

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New WTS end date - 2034?

by campaign of hate in

so i already made an introductory thread where i said hello and mentioned my feelings toward 2034 being the wts new end date.. we get the year 2034 from matt 24:37 & luke 17:26. the wt commented on the "days of noah" in a qfr article 2010 12/15.

where its stated: "it is logical, therefore, to conclude that genesis 6:3 expresses gods resolve to end the corrupt system of things on earth.

jehovah issued a judicial decree to do so in 120 years, though noah was not yet aware of that.

oppostate

Some evangelists who look to Israel becoming a nation as a sign, also see 2034 as the beginning of the third day since Jesus death and resurrection in 33 CE.

Each day being a thousand years, 2034 is the beginning of the third millennium.

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2015 Yearbook page 89

by lenaga in

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i have read the yearbook (i know, i'm a pervert).

on page 89, there is a photograph.the caption: "brothers knorr and franz ..."which franz?

fred franz was 71 years old in 1963. ray franz was 41 years old.. there is also president of knorr.

oppostate

In time, Raymond Franz was assigned as branch servant to the Dominican Republic, he served there during the time of tanks in the streets and bullets pinging off buildings in the capital city. After Bro. R. Franz left the Dominican Republic to go to NY a brother and sister, Gilead couple, Vincent and Judy Irizarry were assigned there and continued the Branch work in the midst of a lot of turmoil. This couple who now lives in North Central Massachussetts isn't even mentioned in the yearbooks, yet it was people like them who continued steadfast in their assignments when the military situation got nasty. They can tell about how it really was in the Dominican Republic of those days.

But the 2015 mentions WT President Knorr and Freddy Franz visiting and giving talks (when it was safe), as if this was the reason for the increase. The WT HQ wasn't responsible for any increase, it was those who put their necks out during the time of military turmoil, and went through the hardship of those uncertain days that were brave enough to stay where they were assigned to preach.

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2015 Yearbook page 89

by lenaga in

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i have read the yearbook (i know, i'm a pervert).

on page 89, there is a photograph.the caption: "brothers knorr and franz ..."which franz?

fred franz was 71 years old in 1963. ray franz was 41 years old.. there is also president of knorr.

oppostate

The 2015 yearbook (yb) neglects to add what the 1972 yb shows clearly. Raymond Franz went personally to appear before Dictator Trujillo to petition a lifting of the ban on JW's in the Dominican Republic. The 2015 says only that a formal, notarized letter was "delivered" to Trujillo. It makes no mention of Ray F., nor does it say who the letter was actually from... Knorr, not a "governing body". Raymond Franz's visit was the key in getting the ban lifted for a while.

Here's the story from the 1972 yb.

Raymond Franz, a missionary in Puerto Rico, was now asked to deliver a petition personally to Dictator Trujillo, asking for the removal of the ban. Making contact with the brothers, he was advised that the best way to get in to see Trujillo was to send a telegram requesting an interview. “Respectfully request privilege of brief interview with Your Excellency. An American educator on 7,000-mile tour. Have information of great importance for you and your country.” This was the text of the telegram sent and here is Brother Franz’ account of what happened:
“The following day a telephone message at the hotel advised me to be at the National Palace at eight o’clock the next morning. That morning I went to the Palace gates and, after having to wait while the band played the National Anthem, with all the government personnel standing on the Palace’s many balconies, I was allowed to go past the sentry box at the gate, up the many broad steps into the Palace.
“After being placed in different sitting rooms by myself over a period of nearly an hour, and then being conversed with briefly by a Dominican general, I was led down a hallway, through a room where four officers stood, then motioned to pass through a fairly narrow passageway opening into a large room. Only on reaching the large room did I see the dictator standing to one side by a large desk. I had hardly expected to reach him so easily.
“After exchanging greetings and making a few favorable comments on the country, I explained in Spanish my mission: to represent an international organization as its emissary to present him a petition. First giving him a letter of introduction, I then handed over the petition. Trujillo had said nothing after the initial greeting, giving the impression of being nervous due to not knowing what to expect. He began reading the petition but soon stopped and simply looked at me. I then told him that it was the wish of our Society to convey to him our regret that ours should be the only religious organization to come under ban in his land and that Jehovah’s witnesses were known world wide as peaceful, respectful, hardworking citizens. This was the first time the name ‘Jehovah’s witnesses’ had been used and evidently he had not seen the name as yet on the petition. He now ‘exploded,’ saying that the Witnesses refused military service, nor would they salute the national emblem. I pointed out that the petition explained why, and that no political motives were involved, solely matters of religion and conscience. After a few more brief exchanges, he stood up, indicating that the interview was closed. To my surprise he extended his hand. I shook it, assured him of my willingness to answer any questions he might have after reading the petition, and left.”

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Why the Clean out of top Management

by Poztate in

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it has been commented here that "soon" the do's will be history.

the co level will be "retired" at age 70 and the latest development was that the cobe can not serve after age 80. it would seem that there is a "cull" of top management.

in secular companys that would signal a radical change of directions ???.

oppostate

People in their 70's and 80's aren't known for their stamina and mental prowess.

The WT needs folks who aren't settled in their ways and are willing to mold with the new changes coming from Bethel HQ.

The older folks in full-time service to the "Order" are covered by WT health self-insurance. Therefore by getting rid of DO's and older CO's there's an immediate cut in expenditures for these folks to get care at the expense of the WT.

The COBE position is just more workable in the hands of someone who has a quicker mind and can receive and respond to matters from WT representatives and follow through on instructions. A person in their 80's may have seen too much and know too much so it's better for the WT to sideline them.