How much damage has internet done against the The Watchtower Society?
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How much damage has internet done against the The Watchtower Society ?
by opusdei1972 inin the beginning of internet the society was worried about the information published exposing its falsehood.
so, i wonder how many people lost the society on account of forums and web sites like this.
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oppostate
Not enough yet!
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Scriptures For Morning Worship
by The Searcher in(matthew 23:2-15) "the org and the governing body have seated themselves in the seat of moses....... 3......but do not do according to their deeds, for they say but they do not practice what they say.
4 they get others to do all the work and financial contributing, but they themselves are not willing to do anything, except become tv stars and be worshipped.
5 all the works they do, they do to be seen by men, for they accumulate as much as they can as a safeguard, and wear as much jewellery as they can get away with.
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oppostate
Hear, hear! I like your revision to the revised NWT. Very telling of how Pharisaical the GB and their reverend helpers act and "do unto others." -
"Jehovah's Witnesses like me" -- Dr. Sulley Ali-Gabass
by oppostate inhttp://www.manassehazure.com/2015/07/jehovahs-witnesses-like-me-dr-sulley-ali-gabass/.
incarcerated senior medical officer of the effia nkwanta regional hospital, dr. sulley ali-gabass, has indicated that members of the jehovahs witnesses are his close friends.. .
he said he was so good at performing surgery that his patients did not have to lose blood.. jehovah witnesses are said to be against blood transfusion and dr ali-gabass said he was their favourite medical doctor because, with him in the operating theatre, they didnt need blood transfusion.. because when you look at the way i do my surgery, its hardly you will obtain blood, because i do it within 25 minutes and its clean.
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oppostate
http://www.manassehazure.com/2015/07/jehovahs-witnesses-like-me-dr-sulley-ali-gabass/
Incarcerated senior medical officer of the Effia Nkwanta Regional Hospital, Dr. Sulley Ali-Gabass, has indicated that members of the Jehovah’s Witnesses are his close friends.
He said he was so good at performing surgery that his patients did not have to lose blood.
Jehovah Witnesses are said to be against blood transfusion and Dr Ali-Gabass said he was their favourite medical doctor because, with him in the operating theatre, they didn’t need blood transfusion.
“Because when you look at the way I do my surgery, it’s hardly you will obtain blood, because I do it within 25 minutes and it’s clean. It’s neat, and you don’t have any infection,” he said when he met with Manasseh Azure Awuni, the Joy FM investigative journalist who unraveled the story about Dr. Ali-Gabass’ sodomy case leading to his imprisonment.
“That’s my record. So these Jehovah Witness people, they like me. They recently even sent some visitors because with me you don’t obtain blood and they don’t like blood. So, always they are like my friends,” he said.
It is not clear how they are taking the news of his sodomy scandal and his incarceration.
Some workers at the Effia Nkwanta government hospital had told Manasseh that the doctor was hard working. “He is the pillar of the ops and gyne unit,” one worker told Manasseh.
Dr Sulley Ali-Gabass was on Monday sentenced to a 25-year jail term for defiling a senior high school boy he met on Facebook in 2013.
Even though he confessed to Manasseh in the secret recording, which is being transcribed and published, he denied the act and pleaded not guilty in court.
His imprisonment brought to an end to a trial which began when he was arrested and charged in October 2014. Dr. Ali-Gabass, who is said to be in his mid 40s, left behind a wife and two little children.
Read more at: http://www.manassehazure.com/2015/07/jehovahs-witnesses-like-me-dr-sulley-ali-gabass/ -
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Where are all these New Anointed Ones Coming from?
by John Aquila inback in the early 70s, right before 1975 we had about 7 or 8 thousand professed anointed.
cant remember the exact number.
but at every convention we were told that the end is close ---because---the number of anointed is getting smaller and smaller.
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oppostate
He answers, “Well I can’t answer that but I can tell you this, Jehovah reads the heart”
You could have responded with "Ah, I know the Bible says Jehovah can read the heart, but the heart is treacherous, who can really know it? Did you read your own heart?"
But really, there's a lot of new partakers because they saw the man behind the curtain when the WT published that the teaching of the anointing door closing in 1935 was, uhmmmm, a lie. So anyone reading the NT and putting faith in what they read, without trusting the WT's shaky interpretations any longer, is going to be aware that all Christians are considered anointed with Holy Spirit and have the hope of a heavenly life.
The GB knows that many of these folks aren't drinking the Kool-ade any more and they've taken away the FDS "appointment" away from them and given it to themselves.
If you're an awake still-in JW and you still have faith in God and Christ, then as a believing Christian you should "observe" the Memorial by partaking, not "observe" by looking on.
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Jw's featured in the mags who later left?
by purrpurr ini was just wondering if any of those jw's who got their story told or featured as "a fine example" in the publications, if they ever left the org later?
i mean i know regular jw's would probably never hear about it but i thought maybe you guys might?
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oppostate
José Martín Pérez
Here's his experience, in Spanish, on becoming a Witness (jose1.html) and exiting the JW religion (jose2.html).
(¡Despertad! Del 8 de noviembre de 1988.)
http://www.gbasesores.com/testimonios/jose1.html
http://www.gbasesores.com/testimonios/jose2.html
His story appeared in Awake! 11/08/1988 here it is quoted below for reference.
*** g88 11/8 pp. 13-15 Pride Was My Worst Handicap ***
Pride Was My Worst Handicap
IT IS not easy to be handicapped and happy. Most persons burdened by physical impediments get depressed, at least from time to time. On such occasions they often ask themselves: “Why me?”
I was no exception. I was born with a severe physical impediment that prevents me from walking, standing up, or even using my hands. This circumstance understandably has had a marked effect on my personality. I still remember the jealousy and frustration I felt as a child when I watched other children running and jumping.
Sometimes I visited a nearby church to beg God’s help. I would earnestly repeat 20 or 30 times the prayer “Padre Nuestro” (“Our Father”) and a similar number of “Ave Marias” (“Hail Marys”), interspersing among these entreaties the heartfelt plea, “Please Lord, cure me!” I promised God so much if only he would heal me.
The Seeds of Pride
I was born in Granada, a beautiful city in southern Spain at the foot of the towering Sierra Nevada Mountains. As a young child, having a disability motivated me to develop other skills, and by the time I was seven, I was more advanced scholastically than others of my age. At that time I mixed quite normally with other children, playing with them and somehow moving around dexterously while seated on my small chair. I even learned to draw and write left-footed by gripping a pencil between my toes.
On one occasion the local newspaper published an article about me, together with photographs showing me writing with my foot. This publicity resulted in my receiving numerous awards and trips, plus the admiration of others. All of this served to foster in me a vain and conceited spirit. Pride was taking over.
Effects of Enforced Isolation
Before long I had to stop attending school. I was growing, and it became impossible for my mother to take me back and forth from our second-floor apartment. Thus, from the age of 13, I continued my education by means of a correspondence course. I found it easy to study and progressed well, but the enforced isolation affected me. Although perhaps outwardly I appeared cheerful and outgoing, I started meditating about my physical condition and its implications for the future.
In 1971, I won a scholarship to study for one year in a rehabilitation center run by Catholic nuns in Madrid. It was there that I learned to typewrite using a pen in my mouth, which has proved very useful. Of course, religion was an obligatory part of our weekly schedule. Every Sunday at 7:00 a.m. we assembled to attend Mass. Although the ritual seemed unnecessary to me, I attended faithfully, for I wanted to please the nuns who looked after me so well.
After a year in Madrid, I returned to Granada. Progressively I became more introverted, imprisoned as I was within the four walls of my home. For the most part, I spent my time reading novels and other books that I could get hold of. I also followed the trend of the time: I grew a beard and let my hair grow long. But it was not a happy period of my life.
Asking for a Sign
Often I was morose because of loneliness and a feeling of helplessness. I prayed to God, asking him for some sign that would demonstrate his existence and his concern for me.
Sure enough, God did provide a sign—but not the way I expected. It was toward the end of 1973. One of Jehovah’s Witnesses called at our door, and as my mother was out shopping, I opened the door and listened to what he had to say. At the end of the conversation, he offered me the book The Truth That Leads to Eternal Life. I readily accepted it, for at that time I was willing to read anything. I read the entire publication that same afternoon. Its contents really surprised me, especially in regard to two Scriptural prohibitions: the use of images in worship and the misuse of blood.—Exodus 20:4, 5; Acts 15:28, 29.
The Witness returned a week later, and while he showed me what the Bible taught, I showed him how I could light a cigarette using only my feet! He offered me a free study of the Bible for six months. I immediately accepted without realizing that this was really the sign that I had been asking for.
I quickly assimilated a knowledge of the Bible. However, it was quite another thing to make the necessary changes in my life in order to be a real disciple of Christ. My biggest problem was my personality.
“Knowledge Puffs Up”
A brief experience will illustrate my mentality. After I had studied the Bible for six months, a traveling minister of Jehovah’s Witnesses visited me and asked me how I was progressing. “I’m doing great. I’ve already memorized 500 Bible texts,” I replied with a smug smile of satisfaction. “Really, 500 Bible texts?” he repeated somewhat incredulously. “Yes, 500! Look, I have them all written down here in this notebook,” I boasted.
Intrigued, he tried me out with Proverbs 18:1. Immediately I repeated the text word for word: “One isolating himself will seek his own selfish longing; against all practical wisdom he will break forth.” He then asked me: “Are you applying this text? Do you meet regularly with your Christian brothers and sisters?” “Well, yes, I do,” I said, for brothers in the congregation had kindly made practical arrangements so that I could attend the meetings.
After another couple of questions my visitor realized that I really had memorized all those texts. At the same time, he discerned that I was paying more attention to the acquisition of Bible knowledge than to the application of such knowledge in my life. He reminded me of the text at 1 Corinthians 8:1, “Knowledge puffs up, but love builds up.” He helped me to see the need to change my personality.
In time I stopped smoking, improved my appearance, and eliminated reading material that was not upbuilding. Eighteen months after first being witnessed to, I got baptized in June 1975.
Overcoming My Pride
Nevertheless, I still had not conquered my pride. My circumstances permitted me to study three or four hours every day, and I soon accumulated a vast store of Scriptural knowledge, which I was eager to demonstrate. Witnesses in the congregation to which I belong started to come to me with their Bible questions and even personal problems. I was only too happy to use my ability to help others, but at times this too caused my vanity to be flattered.
In time my conceit became less evident. Every time I realized that I was displaying a proud spirit, I would pray to Jehovah, asking him to help me. I would especially ask for help in having the right motive: that of helping others with my knowledge rather than glorifying myself.
A Source of Real Happiness
Witnessing to everyone with whom I came in contact became a source of real happiness. Sharing with others what I had learned not only produced an inner satisfaction but forced me out of the shell into which I had retreated and enabled me to mix with others and to be of help to some of them. I was especially delighted to help an elderly man who had problems similar to mine.
I first met him when I was witnessing to a couple of men on the street. During our conversation I couldn’t help but notice a man, walking with the aid of crutches, who passed from time to time. He stopped for a few moments each time he passed, as if he wanted to listen to what we were saying. Finally, he stopped in front of me and asked: “Is it true, all this about a global Flood?” I replied in the affirmative and went on to explain its meaning for us today. In time I was able to study the Bible with him.
Despite his age and his physical problems, he made progress and applied the Bible in his life. He was baptized at the age of 80. His wife, who at first ridiculed him, was baptized at the age of 85.
Being able to aid those who have impediments or who need help in other ways makes it easier for me to forget about my difficulties. In all, I have been able to help ten different people to get to know the truth of God’s Word. This has been a real source of encouragement to me.
My Pride Has Taken a Fall
Most important, I have discovered that a physical disability does not preclude the finding of happiness in life. Getting to know the Creator has helped me to be realistic and face up to my impediments, including my pride. I try to live a normal life as far as possible. I can now provide for myself economically, which gives me great satisfaction. I enjoy serving as an elder in the local congregation, and I try to have an active share in preaching the good news of the Kingdom. (Mark 13:10) Without a doubt, being able to help others is what furnishes me my greatest happiness. At the same time, I have learned to seek Jehovah’s glory, not my own.—Luke 17:10.—As told by José Martín Pérez.
[Picture on page 15, see top of this post. Caption: Preaching on the street with the help of another Witness]
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Is Watchtower imploding? 10 reasons why the end could be nigh
by WildeLover inhttp://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/is-watchtower-imploding-10-reasons-why-the-end-could-be-nigh.
i dont know how to hyperlink the link above,.
it's a link to an article by cedars on the possibility of the wt imploding?.
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oppostate
Here you go:
http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/is-watchtower-imploding-10-reasons-why-the-end-could-be-nigh/
Oh, how I wish it were true, and I be around to witness the fall of the Tower!
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A Tired Child is Better than a Dead Child
by snugglebunny inincredibly, fred franz once announced at a district convention: "yesterday a sister approached me and said, brother franz, why do we have to keep our children up so late just so they can attend the meetings?
i responded sister ***, would you rather have a tired child or a dead child?".
*cue rapturous applause*.
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oppostate
why do we have to keep our children up so late just so they can attend the meetings?
Mr. Freddy Franz would need to truthfully answer: "Because sleep deprivation facilitates cult indoctrination."
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You Tube Video Ex-Betheliite Ex-Walkill Worker Layed Off!
by cha ching ini am not sure if this guy is really from bethel, or walkill, but if he is....this poor guy really tells it like it is from the heart.
he was surprised.. at the 'oh so fast, pack your bags, get your stuff outta here' layoff !.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uk1xh1egjcu
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oppostate
@flipper
I agree he comes across as very sincere, hurt and very disappointed.
What's even sadder is you know he'll have to answer for posting that video. He'll be pegged as a BA (bad association) and marked. And, if he reacts negatively to counsel they might just start a JC to address his "brazen" conduct.
I feel bad for him. Poor guy!
@cleanideas
Wow! But you know, It doesn't surprise me. I've heard of other Bethel workers being treated like that and much worse. This cult just saps you of your strength and any resources they can benefit from, they're a bunch of vampires sucking the life out of people.
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Demoted from elder to MS, anybody ever heard of this?
by Naoscillator inso a friend in a nearby hall told me their co came through, and in a hellish week of long meetings and inquisition overhauled the boe.
only one remains as elder, three were re-appointed as ms, and one, the cobe was deleted entirely.. two new elders were brought in as new secretary and cobe / watchtower conductor, respectively, and introduced to the congregation from the platform on sunday immediately following his second talk.
he reminded everybody of the authority he has and then named the new appointees.
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oppostate
flying monkeys (C.O.s)
Awesome analogy! LOL!
So in this picture we see a CO flying monkey and Wicked Witch Governing Body Momma WT looking at the latest JW Broadcasting Crystal Ball.
But seriously immediate demotions is something I hadn't heard of. The new elders' book clearly states that if an elder steps down he doesn't have to be an MS before being re-appointed, and if he doesn't meet requirements and is deleted, a substantial time would go by for him to prove he qualified and then BOE may suggest to the CO that he get re-appointed.
If the elder stepped down for personal reasons and the body of elders didn't feel he lacked in any requirements, yet he asks to serve as an MS instead he may be appointed as MS with BOE support and CO approval.
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The WT Trucking Outfit Has Violations
by cattails in2. total number of vehicle inspections for the measurement period.
n. fatigued truck driving (hours-of-service) basic serious violation indicator (y = serious violation within previous 12 months).
n. kingdom support services inc truck driver fitness data.
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oppostate
Good find Cattails!
Nothing too serious there, the report isn't bad, and probably a whole lot better than a lot of secular companies.
It's to be expected that the WT would keep the vehicle in reasonably good working order and the brother who drives it would be in dread of ever having a major violation on his record. What, with the layoffs at Bethel and all.