What a "tool" for the "Truth(R)"! All that Sh*t that's now hitting the fan for the WT minions... just change your perspective brothers... it's good fertilizer that's getting aerated go forth into the field, be well fed and stay warm!
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Teaching Committee Helper blames weighed down feelings on "perspective"
by wifibandit inhe mentions changes in assignment at 1:14 and 7:09.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1uufpx8jqk.
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Tight pants, colored socks, blue shirts, beards, wire -rimmed glasses...
by Muddy Waters intight pants, colored socks, blue shirts, beards, wire -rimmed glasses... .
does anybody remember any thing else that was once or still is proscribed against faithful j-dubs?
when brothers in our kh started wearing different colored shirts rather than white, it caused a great stir and ruckus.
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I had a young elder (a bit of an oxymoron, and he is too) tell me that there wasn't ever any rule against wearing colored shirts on stage. He's born in. He's cocky. He's a bit of an... as much as I respect other's opinions and points of view, it really ticks me off when someone tells me I'm wrong and I know better.
There was too a rule. It was unwritten. There was a large white shirt and a dark blue tie kept in the coat room. You were told as an MS that if you wore ostentatious shirts that would be distracting you'd have to wear the white one no matter how baggy, or tight and badly it fit, or go home and change. That was the rule.
And this young... idiosyncratic elder likes to wear fire engine red shirts with gold ties, and royal blue shirts with lime green ties, and deep purple shirts with white ties, and nobody says a word to him nowadays. Right. There was never a written rule but you wouldn't have gotten away with your colorful sense of style, young whipper-snapper!
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CO Comes Up With A New Way To Be Judgemental...
by JW_Rogue inat the latest co visit something very strange happened.
during the meeting with the elders and servants he passed out a copy of a hypothetical publisher card and asked us what we could learn from it.
upon receiving it i saw that the average hours were pretty good, it had return visits and quite a few bible studies.
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It's actually quite easy to place mags and count them in your monthly report.
1. Place them in the rubbish bin.
2. remember to count how many and write the number on your time slip.
The real problem with the hypothetical publisher is that he was way too accurate an account on his service record.
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Project Recapture
by Gorbatchov infriends,.
the magnificence seven have the ability to transform a christian fundamentalist religion into a tv / audio provider combined with a property investment department.. so what can we do?
my thoughts are about a global, world wide return of us, people with a different vision, sometimes called faders, apostates, mentally disordered, non-believers to the kingdom hall under the name "project recapture".. it's easy.
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I like your idea Gorby. I used to believe it was possible to do this early on in my waking process--to try and help other JW's become more Christian and less cultish.
Here's the rub, though, in order for this to work you need people with a conscience. And as an organization, the JW religion has no conscience. In fact it destroys the human conscience.
Nazis were successful in accomplishing the destruction of conscience through their promotion of duty above all else, intimidation on a personal and organizational level, and the regard of scapegoats and non-conformists as pariahs, subhumans who are worthy of extermination.
The JW religion promotes the destruction of an individual's conscience. It condones the belittling of others not within the group, 7 billion people, as worthy of extermination. It makes dissenters and those who exercise a critical mindset into apostate boogeymen, worthy of being shunned out of physical existence, only to be thought of as unclean, diseased minds--a stench of presence from which to wince away in disgust.
The weight of time and inefficiency was heavy on a Soviet empire that was reluctant to change, it broke rather than bend. Similar pressures brought upon Communist China have forced it to mutate into what survives today--an outdated foundation of oligarchical communism ever more capitalist in practice. China bends, but it bends with the force of a whip. Striping those who dare challenge the sovereigns of ideology and bureaucratic might. With such force it cuts down anyone standing defiantly before it, like the meditating Falun Gong--culled and harvested as replacement body parts for those with the wealth to buy themselves a new kidney, a new liver, a new cornea. A cannibalistic communion practiced on a national level condoned by profiteering Communist Party thugs.
Such is today the JW religious organization, a Communist China style figure-head oligarchy. It rose with tribe of Russell, advanced through the monarchy of Rutherford, expanded under Knorr's empire, and revolutionized itself into the a regicidal junta propped up to oversee the current hierarchical organization of over eight million fanatically religious, proletarian mind drones.
The Chinese Organization Department long ago disrobed itself of any Communist economy trappings. The JW organization long ago divested itself of any Christian ethics and sense of conscience. Misusing the adjective Christian as a snare to entrap the downtrodden and control the indoctrinated with baseless promises of paradisaical rewards in exchange of their minds and the best and most productive years of their lives--the Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses is truly and sadly just a capitalistic religious incorporation.
Will China's overreaching forays into capitalism and development bring it to its knees? Will the real-estate grabbing and maniacal building sprees of the JW organization help to bring it down?
My dear Gorby, it would certainly be of help to have awakened JW's make themselves available to comfort the downtrodden, the victims of the conscienceless JW/Watchtower organization--to have folks with a working conscience and a sense of compassion, there to pick up the pieces, the falling crumbs and scraps dropping from the mandibles of the cannibalistic Cyclops that is the JW/Watchtower religion--the Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses (aka JW.0rg).
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Have you ever had your oven door explode?
by Ucantnome inthe other day the glass in my oven door exploded and sent glass into the next room, fortunately i wasn't peering in at the time.
about a year go the previous oven door shattered one morning.
the oven was cold.
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No ovens but I witnessed a newly remodeled KH front double glass door explode when the temperature difference inside the air-tight foyer made the glass buckle out and shatter into a million tiny flying pieces all over the entrance area. -
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Jehovahs Witnesses and the Name , HOW Important. ?
by smiddy injehovah`s witnesses place great emphasis on the importance of god`s name as jehovah .so much so that they are often accused by christendom`s religions as substituting jehovah for christ.. the old testament ( hebrew scriptures identify god as the tetragrammaton four hebrew consanants yhwh and not jhvh.
as mistakenly believed by a 13th century spanish monk .. modern scholars including the j.w.`s agree that the more accurate pronunciation of gods name would be more nearer to yahweh than the name jehovah .. so why do j.w.`s insist on the name ?
jehovah ?
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Stan livedeath said:
i may be wrong--but--
in that indiana jones movie--someone said--there was no J in the hebrew language--it was an IYes, you are wrong.
If you'd read my first post on this thread you'd have realized that it was Latin. The Latin alphabet of the Romans didn't have a J nor a U. (So Julius would have been IVLIVS and pronounced yoo-lee-oos).
The masoretes wrote the vowel points on the Yod-Heh-Vav-Heh Hebrew letters of the tetragram and gave it an E, O and A for vowel sounds, which in the Latin alphabet came out transliterated as IEHOVA.
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Jehovahs Witnesses and the Name , HOW Important. ?
by smiddy injehovah`s witnesses place great emphasis on the importance of god`s name as jehovah .so much so that they are often accused by christendom`s religions as substituting jehovah for christ.. the old testament ( hebrew scriptures identify god as the tetragrammaton four hebrew consanants yhwh and not jhvh.
as mistakenly believed by a 13th century spanish monk .. modern scholars including the j.w.`s agree that the more accurate pronunciation of gods name would be more nearer to yahweh than the name jehovah .. so why do j.w.`s insist on the name ?
jehovah ?
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Giordano said:
Being uninformed as to the basis of the name Jehovah, which was invented by a Catholic Monk who was as ignorant as anyone else, is no excuse for the Society.
How many times is this idiotic bit of misinformation going to get circulated on this forum?
Yes the name Jehovah was used by the English speaking American colonists and of course those who stayed back in England.
A Spanish monk didn't "invent" anything. He transliterated what had been written in vowel pointed Hebrew for centuries.
It's really very off putting that some ex-jw's grab onto this fallacy in trying to disprove the claim of Truth by the WT, how can you fight idiotic suppositions with more idiotic suppositions? Mind boggling.
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Jehovahs Witnesses and the Name , HOW Important. ?
by smiddy injehovah`s witnesses place great emphasis on the importance of god`s name as jehovah .so much so that they are often accused by christendom`s religions as substituting jehovah for christ.. the old testament ( hebrew scriptures identify god as the tetragrammaton four hebrew consanants yhwh and not jhvh.
as mistakenly believed by a 13th century spanish monk .. modern scholars including the j.w.`s agree that the more accurate pronunciation of gods name would be more nearer to yahweh than the name jehovah .. so why do j.w.`s insist on the name ?
jehovah ?
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The old testament ( Hebrew Scriptures identify GOD as the tetragrammaton four Hebrew Consanants YHWH and not JHVH. as mistakenly believed by a 13th Century Spanish Monk .
Sorry Smiddy, not true.
Repeating idiotic fallacies about the Tetragram does not make them true.
The English Y comes from the Greek alphabet. In Latin the sound was made with an I and later became a J to differentiate between the vowel and the consonant. The W is just a double letter, originally the U and V were the same letter and just like with I and J the U became the vowel and the V the consonant.
To me it is very annoying to read ignorant suppositions stated as truth. Isn't that the very reason why many of us dislike the WT.
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Who would you like to hear of leaving the Jehovah's Witnesses ?
by wozza ini'll start off with this one:.
some years ago when i was formulating my exit, i employed for some time an ms brother from another congregation.. i'd had a couple of young "worldly" lads work for me but they proved unreliable as they used drugs or alchohol and consequently would'nt arrive at work and such like.. so when i was was contacted by this brother and spoke to him and heard he'd worked at the australian bethel for some time on construction and wanted an opportunity to learn the trade of bricklaying ,i thought ,"great someone to finally trust and be reliable".
he was in his 40's at the time and he worked like a trojan ,was honest ,really likeable and interesting ,could play the classical guitar beautifully ,had a beautiful family.
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An elder superdub up North in White Rvr. Jct. VT or Lebanon NH, not sure which any more, who used to be Special Pioneering and whom I worked under as a Convention Attendant lead. His name was Gantos.
We'd had a run in because of the direction to close off certain seating sections and make everyone pack in like sardines, split up families if necessary, anyway, being the hardass he was he took objection with my comments that it was crazy to make people have to sit so packed in when almost half of the auditorium was roped off, and could be used. He lectured me for over an hour, non-stop.
When I started waking up and researching online I read an account by ex-JW's who happened to be his parents. The hurt and the torment these folks have gone through because of shunning by their son just broke my heart. Knowing how blindly loyal this young elder was It would delight my soul to hear he's woken up, left the cult, and made a point to apologize to his parents.
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It takes a village
by oppostate inhad to share.
kudos to the photoshop artist!
well done and very, ehem, insightful : - ))).
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Had to share. Kudos to the PhotoShop artist! Well done and very, ehem, insightful : - )))
